Hey, I am considering getting a guide dog in the near future (legally blind) and I have heard stories of people getting rejected from Uber rides and such. Does that happen often? Is there anything I can do to mitigate that? Also is there anything else nobody told you before you got your guide dog that you wished you knew beforehand? I've been trying to do as much research as possible over the past few years but there is always more to learn.
Fange_Strellow8 points3y ago
In America they’re not allowed to reject you based on your service animal, but they can find ways of canceling your ride before they get there if they know you have one. It doesn’t happen too often, and if it does you should definitely report it through the app so that the appropriate discipline is given out to the driver. One tip I would suggest for any guy dog user who wants to use ridesharing like Uber is to carry a bedsheet with you to lay out in the backseat of the car for your dog to lay on. You are not required to do this, but I found drivers are extremely appreciative of this as it prevents them from having to vacuum out the backseat of their car before their next ride. Even the most well groom dog is going to shed, and the drivers rating by the next customer could go down based on having hair in the car, so it’s worth taking notice of and helping the driver out especially if there a good one.
_Night_Wing [OP]5 points3y ago
Noted, and the blanket is a good idea. I'll keep that in mind.
Thank you!
JynxBJJ6 points3y ago
Do you enjoy picking up poop. Lots of poop. Lol
4 months of guide dogging, and that’s my take away. Lots of poop. But worth it!
I have gotten the stink eye from a couple of taxi drivers (husband told me), but never with Lyft. I was told not to pu5 my dog in my profile pic, as the driver could refuse you by just not takin* the ride. I’m not a driver, so I don’t know if that’s how i5 works. I consider Lily and me ambassadors for all legit service animals, so I’m super fastidious about her grooming and maje it point to clean her paws before we get in if it’s nasty weather.
Something I didn’t expect is that, with a guide dog, you’re no longer invisible. I used a cane fir about 7 years, and felt isolated in public sometimes. With a dog, I get friendly comments all the time, and dead dig stories, which are just people telling yo7 how much they loved their dead dog who your dog reminds them of.
_Night_Wing [OP]3 points3y ago
Poop, yay...
Haha that's the case with any animal. I grew up with a dog so I know the drill. Make sure you have poop bags, got it.
That's one of the things that I don't like about using a cane. I feel like i am walking inside a bubble. I love meeting people and while the incessant cooing may get annoying sometimes, I would take that over everyone slowly backing away from me with my cane.
JynxBJJ2 points3y ago
Yay, poop! Lol. Mi grew up on a farm, but never had to bag the house flops... 😎
I guiltily admit that I used my cane maliciously once. I’m not completely blind, so I can kind of see what people are doing in front of me. This “Karen” kept walking directly across the path of my cane, on accident this first time, i hope, but then seemed to find it amusing* that i had to stop when I felt her foot/leg as she literally PRANCED in front of me. Like, holding her hands up like a t-Rex prance. I got annoyed, and I timed her crossing my path with my cane sweep and body check. I’m only 5’7”, and slender, but I did May Thái for yeRs, so I have good body position and balance. She nearly fell, but my sweet son caught her.
_Night_Wing [OP]2 points3y ago
I am always nervous of children around my cane.
I've had a child run full force into me before, they don't watch where they are going. My fear is that one day a kid will come from my side (I lack peripheral vision so i wouldn't see them coming), trip over the tip of my cane, and fly into the ground or the wall. Then the parent will yell at me because "i've injured their child!" and try to sue me or something. So whenever I hear pattering footsteps or children I bring my cane super close to me and walk really slow.
80percentaccurate2 points3y ago
Mobility specialist and puppy raiser here, when I’m out in public with my pups I expect for trips to take double the amount of time they would otherwise. You get lots of silly questions or stories as well. People often ask me what my disability is even though the puppy has a jacket saying they are in training to be a guide dog. I take on the role of educator, so I don’t mind repeating myself a lot, but when you’re having a bad day it doesn’t feel the best to have someone you don’t even know asking personal questions. Regarding the difference between the dog and a cane, prepare to feel like you are flying. A cane is an obstacle detector while a dog is an obstacle avoider. This means you have to pay attention to when your dog moves you around things because that landmark you’ve always touched before will be pass you in a heartbeat. From my very limited experience traveling with both, I like the control I have with the cane, but I love the speed of a dog. Another important point to remember is you have to have to have to keep up the training. If the dog figures out you can see, they quickly learn to stop doing the work. My friends who are low vision are very careful about specifically going out when their vision is worse or doing blindfold walks so that their dogs’ skills stay sharp. The same goes for basic obedience. If you feed your dog from the table or let it jump up on people in the house, it won’t be long before they start doing it in harness. If you get a dog, they will tell you all this during training. You will see people bending the rules with their dogs. I bend the rules with my dogs in training. You just have to think carefully about how the rule bending will affect your personal guide. Some dogs can handle it. Some dogs can’t. If you’re thinking about it as an option, have you thought about traveling to a school that would let you feel what it is like to travel with a dog?
_Night_Wing [OP]2 points3y ago
This is all super good advice and some I have thought of but getting another perspective is nice. I am thinking of Guide Dogs for the Blind because I have toured their campus and I like their empathis on positive training. I wear hearing aids so if worse comes to worse I can pretend like I don't hear them 😂 Also my O&M skills are fantastic, I travel across the country by myself. I grew up with a dog and did a lot of the training with him. I love the satisfaction you get when your dog finally understands something you want them to do.
80percentaccurate2 points3y ago
It sounds like you’ve done your homework on this. From what I understand, many guide dog organizations assume that most people don’t have prior experience with dogs, so having done training with a dog when you are younger will probably help a lot. I love the sense of satisfaction from training as well! The moment one of my puppies ignores a distraction and looks back to me for reinforcement. Mm. It’s a great feeling.
_Night_Wing [OP]1 points3y ago
Thank you! I'm trying my best to make an educated decision that will benefit both me and the dog. I've talked to my parents, vision specialist, and past O&M instructor and they all are giving me the green light. If I didn't think I could put up and work with a dog I wouldn't be considering it.
lightsurge21 points3y ago
Can't refuse service dogs anywhere in the UK I don't think. Certainly would be more difficult to explain that to a private hire rather than black cab (UK) or yellow cab (USA), who should know because if they refuse they can be stripped of their license. In fact, in the UK at least all public transport has to accept all (well behaved) dogs, so that includes black cabs, train, tube, bus etc.
Private hire can't refuse service dogs, but can refuse pets. If you ring for a minicab in the UK, it might help to say you have a dog with you (not specifying service), and they'll send a driver who doesn't mind. If they flat out say they don't have any drivers that will take dogs, and you're desperate for a taxi, explain that it's a service dog, that's the point at which you'll get the "hold one moment please" while they figure out what to do.
_Night_Wing [OP]1 points3y ago
Thank you! I will keep this in mind.
BlueRock9561 points3y ago
Hi, regections happen often enough to my friends and their service dogs. Not only in ride share cars, but in restaurants and other public places.
Fange_Strellow2 points3y ago
Where do you live? Americans with disabilities are very fortunate but that we had a generation of disabled people fight to create the Americans With Disabilities Act, and it prevents this type of discrimination. This still seems to be one thing that America is still a world leader on, and it seems like even other developed countries still struggle with this. Although, I’d love to hear about people from other countries who have good experiences and good environments for those with disabilities
_Night_Wing [OP]1 points3y ago
I go between US and Canada a lot.
BlueRock9561 points3y ago
i live in the US. Friends report drivers, and Uber and Lyft sometimes do something about it, but in the mean time my friends have been left stranded; having to call for another driver that will hopefully will not drive away at the sight of a dog.
Fange_Strellow1 points3y ago
I suppose there could be differences even between cities, and while I’ve had a few drivers cancel on me before arriving, I’ve never been stranded and left without being able to get a ride eventually. Of course I always message my drivers right after I book a ride to let them know they’re picking up a blind guy with a guide dog, so that there are no surprises. I suppose it also helps that I have a very high Uber rider rating and get paired with the better drivers in my area. As far as being rejected for restaurants in public places, this should not happen, and if ever someone tries to reject you from a public place I suggest you do not leave. Cause a stink, let them call the police if that’s what they want because they are the ones violating the law in that situation. Again, America has the Americans with disabilities act, and this law was not passed by being polite and quiet when people with disabilities were rejected or locked away in institutions. People literally crawled up the steps of the state house out of their wheelchairs to make a point and to get this law passed. No this is assuming that the friends you’re talking about have a legitimate guide dogs or other service dogs, and we’re not talking about somebody with an emotional support animal. Emotional support animals are not the same thing as service animals and do not have the same rights as a service animal.
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