New to using white cane- anyone else get a numb hand?(self.Blind)
submitted by KnittyViki
hi! I've been legally blind for about a year now and slowly worsening. Pretty much I have enough sight to get through stores, roads and see pathways and not walk into a car or something, but I can't identify curbs, dips, fissures, frost heaves, open manholes- etc. I walked into a mailbox on a cloudy day hard enough that I felt guilty and knocked to tell the house owner \[no damage they said but oops\], I've gotten smacked in the face by LOTS of budding spring branches that overhang narrow sidewalks and I'm not sure if I ran away from an aggressive turkey... or an aggressive bush
I have a basic white cane I got for free from the federation of the blind with the flat foot tip. Eventually hoping ot get a rolling tip one but this is good to learn with for me
Anyway. I have to drag it lightly rather than doing the 'tap' method. I am self taught so I don't know if this is the proper way or not but 'tapping' led to me tripping quite often on local streets. All the vibration goes up through my hand and wrist and I wind up going totally numb after some time and have difficulty gripping it. Any pointers on what to do for this?
doodoobrown5306 points3y ago
Hey! O&M here. I highly recommend that you receive proper training when you’re able. I know this quarantine is not making things easy.
My recommendations over the internet without knowing much about you is that you should review the proper grip of the cane. You want your hand near your bellybutton height and about 12 inches away from your body.
Leaving your cane on the ground is a technique that we call constant contact. Maybe google that and see if you can pick up any pointers.
Very possible a rolling tip may be more useful but you should receive some feedback from your current tip.
Feel free to switch hands when you’re using your cane.
Also, you want to be moving the cane with your wrist (like you’re wiping salt off of a table/ wrist flexion and extension). Most newbies try to swing their cane with their whole arm. You want your elbow at your side. I have my students hold a small book between their elbow and their body when starting out to get used to keeping their elbow at their side.
As for the branches I recommend looking Into the upper protective technique (another google search!) and maybe wearing a hat with a brim.
Obviously I’m just a redditor so take the above advice as what it is, a guy on the internet telling you what to do, but hopefully some of this helps. Good luck out there!
BlueRock9561 points3y ago
Hi, the NFB's cane is what I use. I trained on it's use at the Louisiana Center for the Blind. The grip is different than the gulf grip, and the cane is used differently. For the NFB cane we are taught to use an open palm technique which does not require the user to turn or twist their hand or arm. Like others, I also recommend training.
doodoobrown5301 points3y ago
In that case you’d want to hold the cane with your fingers wrapped around the cane with a relatively loose grip with your (you guessed it) open palm facing up.
The tricky part here is that you’re then moving the cane by opening and closing your last three fingers while holding the cane between your thumb and index fingers.
This way alleviates the need to use your wrist as much as the way I described above. Great suggestion and the more options you have the better. Best of luck!
KnittyViki [OP]1 points3y ago
Thank you so much! This really does help and I'll try to make some calls and check out youtube at least :) Thank you!!!
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BlindasaurusRex2 points3y ago
Numb hand can be due to gripping it incorrectly or too tightly. The same as people who grip too tightly on bicycle handlebars get a numb hand also. Having proper mobility training is best as you may pick up bad habits that are hard to unlearn.
PonderingWaterBridge2 points3y ago
Any chance somewhere near you does mobility or training with a white cane?
I recall when my mom used one, she was taught various different things with it to help her in circumstances that I wouldn’t have thought of.
KnittyViki [OP]2 points3y ago
Yes and no. Just moved to a new state and got new insurance but with quarantine its not possible to get a new pcp in order to get to a mobility training center. I know they do fantastic things so I'm not knocking it- its just not possible for me in this moment unfortunately
80percentaccurate2 points3y ago
If you live in the US, insurance and doctors have almost nothing to do with mobility training. O&M specialists cannot bill through insurance in the states yet in most cases. Have you looked at Leader Dogs for the Blind once all this virus stuff clears up? They have a one week all expenses paid class to teach you mobility in a one on one setting. I would highly recommend it as a starting place. I mean, it’s free.
PonderingWaterBridge1 points3y ago
In that case which is totally understandable, If it were me, I would call the mobility center and talk with someone. You may learn that it could be a self-referral or that you could have a previous doctor send a referral over that they would accept. Or possibly they have other resources that they could provide to you prior to being able to get in.
Best of luck. I don’t have any personal knowledge of using a white cane, otherwise I would be giving helpful tips instead of these suggestions.
KnittyViki [OP]3 points3y ago
no I appreciate it! Thank you so much :) stay safe!
DrillInstructorJan1 points3y ago
Lots of good suggestions but you should know, there is a limit to how long you can do it for before it starts to cramp you up and that is normal. You can extend that limit by exercising and practising but there will always be a limit. I can physically walk for a lot longer than I can cane travel, my hand gets tired before my legs do, and I have been a cane traveller for a long time.
Don't use your wrist, use your fingers. Palm at 45 degrees or closer to the vertical, then you can swing by just tightening your fingers. I bet other people have mentioned it but if you use your wrist you end up with your whole forearm getting sore, whereas if you use your fingers to move it then only part of your forearm will get sore. Eventually your muscles will improve. Also keep your elbow close to your body so you don't have to support the whole weight of the thing on your arm at an awkward angle.
Finally get a carbon cane. They are light which will extend the amount of time you can keep doing it. I don't like rolling tips precisely because they are heavier than pencil tips. Lightness is everything. I once handled a cane that had the coloured wrap on it and I could tell it was heavier than the one without, and that's a bit of sticky backed plastic stuff. Half an ounce counts.
AllHarlowsEve1 points3y ago
I was taught to keep my wrist up rather than down, like shaking hands, and that definitely helped. I generally use two point touch with the rigid UFO tip NFB cane. I only raise it maybe 4 inches off the ground at the top of the arc, and that's considering the width of the arc and the speed that I tap at. Any higher and its annoying.
Constant contact will absolutely give you a numb hand/arm from the vibrations, but a proper cane with a more rolling-oriented tip, ie roller ball or marshmallow, will work better for not shaking your arm off.
Even with those, I do tap and drag, like 2 point tap but I tap left, drag right, then tap left. Or vice versa, obviously.
Definitely get in contact with your local state agency for the blind and see what they can do for you. Even if it's just instruction by webcam and them mailing you a better cane or something, that's better than nothing.
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