I'm dating a legally blind woman and don't want to suggest anything inaccessible(self.Blind)
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[deleted] [OP]21 points3y ago
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aresef4 points3y ago
Oh yeah, I’ve spent a lot of time talking to her and, as I said, once she opened the door to questions about her blindness, she answered the questions I thought tasteful to ask. She described what she can see, though she’s been blind all her life, so she doesn’t really have anything to compare it to in terms of what I see. Thanks for sharing the videos. I’ll watch them later on.
Snowlian8 points3y ago
Do either of you have an Alexa? There are numerous free Alexa skills that are essentially interactive "escape the room" simulators. They're a novelty, but hey free is free and it's all 100% audio based.
Could be a fun unique activity, provided neither of you have done them before. My best friend and I -- while both sighted -- had a blast with them one night. Probably spent a good 2-4 hours on 2 different skills. That was maybe 2 or 3 years ago too, so there are likely more skills like that now.
There are also free trivia party game skills.
*Edit*: Just looked at my skills list so I could give you actual names. I haven't played any of these in years so YMMV but here are some for an "Alexa Game Night/Date Night":
* Escape the Room (I think this is the one my friend and I played the free rooms of) * Escape the Room 2 * Escape the Airplane * Either Or * True or False? * Animal Game * Trump Against Humanity * The Magic Door * Twenty Questions * Jeopardy!
aresef3 points3y ago
We both do, yeah, and she loves hers. That’s a great idea. She also likes escape rooms (I’ve never done one), even though she admits she’s little help looking for clues. I’ll look into something like that.
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aresef3 points3y ago
Yeah. Unfortunately, I believe escape rooms where I live and where she lives are still closed.
BTW, something I meant to say in another reply, this is really just me doing research, the same way I was curious what descriptive video sounded like and checked YouTube. My goal is to be as gentlemanly as possible and as accommodating as she asks me to be.
aresef1 points3y ago
Thanks for the list in your edit!
SLJ76 points3y ago
I feel like this place is developing the kind of presumptuous attitude we'd all prefer to avoid from the rest of the world. Obviously you should be talking to her, but it sounds like you already are and people are just projecting their own experiences. Personally, I think it's great that you want to come up with new things. Just like with any relationship, you really have to discover those together. One or both of you might find you don't enjoy them for whatever reason; in this case, blindness could be just one of those reasons. She probably won't hate you for suggesting something that ultimately didn't work, so you shouldn't take it personally either; it can happen with any relationship. That said, one thing I can suggest is for one or both of you to post questions about how we do x, y or z accessibly if you're really not sure how it might work: Also, I know blind people who enjoy sports on TV / radio, so I disagree with the person who said live sports are a bad idea. I have in fact been to a hockey game with a pocket radio, and it actually did a lot to make up for my not being able to see" the game. Don't use a smartphone for a radio though; almost all streams are delayed by up to a minute. You need an actual radio. Also, you probably know there are descriptive headphone box things at movies, but check for those at sporting events too, just in case the radio isn't necessary.
aresef1 points3y ago
Yeah, I know about the headphones at movie theaters. I’ve been researching this stuff a bit, apparently all the major chains have them now.
I’ve never encountered one of those things at a sporting event except when I went to see sumo wrestling in Japan. They were renting radios to foreigners like me. I think I knew about the delay with MLB.TV’s calls. If I go with the baseball game idea at any point, I’ll bring a real radio.
I just want to be proactive and suggest something that could be both fun and accessible. But I suppose you’re right that the worst that could happen is she says that that wouldn’t work. The other night I said “well I have Cards Against Humanity but...” and then I learned that you can get Braille to stick on those cards.
SLJ71 points3y ago
Yeah, exactly. She's not the single authority on how to make things accessible either; the blind community exists in part to share resources with each other, so you never know what you might find here.
Sidenote: I have a friend who manually typed out Braille labels for an entire CAH deck and brought it to parties. It was some serious dedication and a two-person project, since no sighted family members knew how to Braille. The idea that I can just buy overlays now is still shocking.
aresef2 points3y ago
The downside, she told me, is that the Braille CAH cards are a pain in the ass to shuffle.
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aresef4 points3y ago
I only mentioned it because I actually noted baseball might be a terrible idea and she said it wasn’t necessarily, even if she may get confused when looking down at the field. I, a baseball fan, joked she wasn’t missing much. So this post is informed, in part, by asking her what kind of stuff she likes to do.
I’m absolutely not coming at it with a limited mindset, not intentionally. But thank you for your input, I mean that quite sincerely.
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aresef5 points3y ago
I understand. I wasn’t trying to preemptively shut the door on things I think she “can’t” do. Absolutely not. I’m trying to find ways to make things that I enjoy as a sighted person fun for both of us.
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liquidDinner2 points3y ago
If it helps any, I can't really tell what's going on but I love going to sporting events with good company. I can't tell you where the pitch went, and a pop fly in my direction scares the bejesus out of me, but the biggest reason to go to a game has always been the crowd interactions and the atmosphere. Sighted or otherwise though, you kinda have to like baseball to enjoy attending a game. I drag my sighted friend to games and enjoy it much more than he does.
Sometimes you can pull the radio broadcast of a game from the team's website or a local radio station, and that's something sighted fans have been doing with portable radios for decades.
Just be prepared to answer questions. My dad and I try to go to a football game once a year and he's ready for me to ask him about some details I'll obviously miss. That's a part of the fun of it though.
aresef1 points3y ago
I guess if she enjoys being with me, she’d enjoy it anywhere. But as I’m thinking this through, I’m thinking we would want to sit out of striking distance of a foul ball or something.
liquidDinner1 points3y ago
And these days teams are extending the nets a bit so that's something to help make that decision.
blind_cowboy1 points3y ago
I come at it from the opisite point of view from the other poster. As a baseball lover I really enjoy taking a radio to a game. Let's hope they can get it figured outhat so that we can have a season.
FantasticGlove3 points3y ago
Totally blind here. Sporting events are the best. If you get a radio or use Tune-in, you can get commentary straight to your phone. You don't need to see to imagine what is going on during the game while its happening. Please don't limit your GF from experiencing fun things just because you are worrried about blindness. Just relax and have a good time.
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MizzerC2 points3y ago
I don't get the hate on baseball unless you have gone and not had a radio with you. Then that probably is a boring event.
Play by play announcers have been a thing for the entire life of the sport, and is how many people have kept up with games.
When I was at the Hines blind rehab center in Chicago, they would have opt-in trips to baseball games all the time. Everyone just strongly recommended taking a radio or sitting next to someone with one.
Winnmark0 points3y ago
@ u/vapidvision
You wanna chill out mate? OP is looking to learn a thing or two. How often do you think the general public interacts with disabled people? Where's the damn down vote button on this sub?
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Sereniitty3 points3y ago
Iv been with a blind women for the last two years. We go hiking , tendem biking , car racing, video games and we even started blind fencing and went to a world championship in France where she won 2nd !! Haha I'm so proud sorry. Anyway. I don't think it's about what she can do but what she would like to try. Anything is doable as long as you are there to adapt it to her 😉
taversham2 points3y ago
If there's a Botanical Gardens near you, they can often be much more fun for a visually impaired person than you might expect. Big bright colours, pleasant smells and textures, open areas for walking/picnicing/sunbathing, hopefully a nice cafe. My whole family loves going (they're all blind or partially-sighted), but I meet a lot of visually-impaired people who've never been because they assume you need sight to enjoy it.
Not great if she's a hayfever sufferer though.
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aresef1 points3y ago
Thanks. This is great advice.
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aresef1 points3y ago
Yeah, definitely lots of people, lots of food, great atmosphere. What she said is that she’s been to games and she’ll look across to the Jumbotron and try to make out the numbers but can get confused about the goings-on below. We’ll definitely keep talking.
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MizzerC2 points3y ago
My personal advice would be to talk to your date and ask her preference, and if she really minds or not.
Me personally? I don't care to what activity I'd be involved in. The fact I am involved is what appeals to me, since more often than not I feel left out because people are thinking I wouldn't be interested due to my vision.
Overwhelming majority of things have accessibility options for the visually impared or blind, but even if the activities didn't.. The very fact that I can do some activity with friends/lovers greatly improves my interest in whatever the activity is.
aresef2 points3y ago
Thanks!
guitarandbooks2 points3y ago
As others have stated, Alexa has tons of neat stuff and as it's all audio, you can both participate equally.
Lots of streaming services offer audio described tv and movies although that's also been mentioned.
You guys could both read a book;you could read it in print while she reads it via a Braille display or in e book format... Or, you could both listen to an audio book together.
I'm not into sports but I know that she could use bluetooth earbuds for example and get the play by play of the game you're attending via some sort of live streaming app. I believe this is pretty common these days.
As far as the outdoors is concerned, I've been swimming at lakes and pools etc, canoeing, tandom biking, hiking, cross country skiing, and snowshoeing etc which is all perfectly doable when one person is blind and one person is sighted.
As far as communication, as a blind person, I certainly prefer when people just ask questions instead of just running it over in their head and assuming things one way or the other. I think she'd really appreciate you being open and honest!
aresef2 points3y ago
Yeah, I know Netflix has a lot of descriptive audio stuff and we’ve already talked a bit about movies to watch together. I’m thinking we could listen to music together, too.
Lakes and pools and such might be a bit iffy, considering the rona, because even if and where they’re open, other medical things related to her blindness put her in an at-risk group. Like she’s been ordering groceries and only leaving her place for medical care.
My goal isn’t to use this thread to assume and say we’re doing x, y, z. It’s to come up with things to propose that we could do that maybe I haven’t suggested or neither of us has considered. Objective No. 1 for me is to not fuck this up. Thank you for your feedback.
guitarandbooks1 points3y ago
Oh yeah, certainly post Corona Virus for pools etc. I was thinking more in general;not for right now;sorry.
aresef1 points3y ago
Oh, no worries. You couldn’t have known.
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Pegasaurus81 points3y ago
Here some advice (personal experience) as a visually impaired chick.
I’ve been with my current bf for 2+ years. Being with a sighted/able person gives me a lot of anxiety. I often feel like a burden. My bf reminds me all the time that he doesn’t feel that way. (He also thinks my handicap placard is a huge plus) lol.
In general:
Any sense of irritation a driver has while driving gives me anxiety because it makes me feel like “if they weren’t going out of their way for me then they wouldn’t be mad right now.” It’s hard to get out of that mindset. Just make her assured that you don’t mind taking her places if she need (but don’t go overboard to where you’re her chauffeur.) If you go somewhere like a sit down place, nighttime is the worst. Most of these places are dimly lit. I have to use my phone flashlight and magnifier to read menus which is a pain. I’m not sure Of her visual ailments so I’d ask her if she prefers a “window seat” to have better natural light. If you’re at a place with an overhead menu, offer to ask them for a smaller/printed menu. If not, offer to take a picture of it with your phone so she can read it better. In these and other public situations, assure her that she can take her time. I get overly anxious when I’m on other’s time. Since I can’t drive I feel like I’m taking up their precious time since I’m on their schedule. Oh and one of the best things about being visually impaired is that we can never be a designated driver. So yay drinks. Lol
I admit I’m overly anxious than most people buy I hope this helps.
aresef1 points3y ago
No, that really does help. Thanks.
MattMorrisMedia1 points3y ago
Hey mate, thanks for caring about your partner.
If I was in your position, I'd steer clear of any sports/events that are visually entertaining. I'd look for other forms of entertainment;
(Anything you can add of value via other senses such as, sound, touch or smell for example.)
(Some of these you have suggested, I have also added some to this list also)
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* Comedy show (audible) * Anything that has audio descriptions available. You can get movies with a narrator who describes the action on screen. * Sounds dorky, but a romantic trip to the zoo, take it slow, get her to listen to the sounds of each animal as you describe the written information about them. * Guided audio tours. * Wine tasting at a vineyard. * Musical theatre (quite descriptive in the audio form)
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