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Just a curious artist with a question (self.Blind)
submitted by bicth490
Hi. Im an artist wondering what type of video art that you enjoy if you have enjoyed any. I'm thinking anything outside the realm of normal moving picture media such as movies, tv, etc. Additionally have you happened upon anything of that nature that took into account your visual impairment and/or responded to it?
I am thinking of doing a project and want to know what connects/works for people - if anything has.
I am thinking of doing a project and want to know what connects/works for people - if anything has.
noaimpara 2 points 3y ago
I can’t think of any video art besides films and tv. YouTube? I love youtube and it’s my main source of entertainment if that’s what you’re asking.
bicth490 [OP] 1 points 3y ago
What sort of entertainment do you like. Are there certain videos you gravitate towards?
Does certain content (with interesting sound design) work better for you than others - or is just a subject preference?
Does certain content (with interesting sound design) work better for you than others - or is just a subject preference?
noaimpara 1 points 3y ago
I like a lot of stuff on youtube. But now that I think about it, very few things I like are visual. I love commentary videos (which is kind of just talking with a few visual gags I don’t mind missing out on), I love travel/language learning stuff, I love study/productivity content, I love jacksfilms type of stuff.
I guess it’d be easier to list creators I like than genres haha.
I usually only care about the genre/subject of video. I don’t actively seek out content with interesting sound work, but I do tend to avoid all things visual even if I like the subject. For exemple I love using make up, but I avoid make up channels because I don’t get anything valuable out of it since I can’t see what they’re doing.
I guess it’d be easier to list creators I like than genres haha.
I usually only care about the genre/subject of video. I don’t actively seek out content with interesting sound work, but I do tend to avoid all things visual even if I like the subject. For exemple I love using make up, but I avoid make up channels because I don’t get anything valuable out of it since I can’t see what they’re doing.
bicth490 [OP] 1 points 3y ago
This is really good information. Thank you
noaimpara 1 points 3y ago
Youre welcome if you have anymore questions I’m here !
BenandGracie 2 points 3y ago
Being that I am totally blind, video art is not my thing.
bjayernaeiy 2 points 3y ago
Same. If you're making it into a movie and the like maybe add audio description.
bicth490 [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Im probably not going to turn into a movie.
I get audio description does that, but to which end. And I feel like since its produced separate from the overall director-led production process, its fundamentally a different experience. (im obviously biased and looking at this as a sight led person)
Take for example the raft by bill viola. Its a 10 minute visual of a diverse group of about a dozen people standing in front of a dark backdrop. Some casually reading from a book, listening to music, or just plain standing there. It's like theyre on a train or something. A few people here or there, enter the frame and people make space for them. At the halfway mark gallons of water are thrown at them from the side of the frame in HYPER-SLOW MOTION. It's like a fire hydrant just popped open and everyone's reacting how you normally would when gallons of water are forcefully shot out at you. An elderly woman takes a hard fall - people cling on to eachother for dear life - people try to shield themselves with their shoulders. Soon the whole frame is just filled with this gushing water and you can barely see the people in the shot. Everyone is just dark blue silhouettes.
Anyway, I watch this and I think to myself - is this piece of art, inherently visual? Can it be translated? And if the director had thought, I want to make this accessible to a visually impaired person, what would they do?
Here is the link to the visual
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I get audio description does that, but to which end. And I feel like since its produced separate from the overall director-led production process, its fundamentally a different experience. (im obviously biased and looking at this as a sight led person)
Take for example the raft by bill viola. Its a 10 minute visual of a diverse group of about a dozen people standing in front of a dark backdrop. Some casually reading from a book, listening to music, or just plain standing there. It's like theyre on a train or something. A few people here or there, enter the frame and people make space for them. At the halfway mark gallons of water are thrown at them from the side of the frame in HYPER-SLOW MOTION. It's like a fire hydrant just popped open and everyone's reacting how you normally would when gallons of water are forcefully shot out at you. An elderly woman takes a hard fall - people cling on to eachother for dear life - people try to shield themselves with their shoulders. Soon the whole frame is just filled with this gushing water and you can barely see the people in the shot. Everyone is just dark blue silhouettes.
Anyway, I watch this and I think to myself - is this piece of art, inherently visual? Can it be translated? And if the director had thought, I want to make this accessible to a visually impaired person, what would they do?
Here is the link to the visual
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BlueRock956 1 points 3y ago
Hi, you are right its a visual concept, but the vidio had sound too. Twards the end I could hear the water; it was disappointing not being able to hear the old lady scream "What the Hell!" when she fell... It was disappointing that the visuals did not include the sounds of the people talking, music in the backgrowned, and other ambient noices.
Porn is very much a visual concept too, but the music, moans, grunts, and other sounds make them enjoyable for some blind people, even when the seen does not have audio description.
Porn is very much a visual concept too, but the music, moans, grunts, and other sounds make them enjoyable for some blind people, even when the seen does not have audio description.
BenandGracie 1 points 3y ago
I have no way to experience that. As a blind person, I don't experience the world the same way you do. My entire world is made up of sound, smell, taste, and touch. In The description you gave, doesn't make me ask if it is art. I ask, who cares? Visual things don't make an empresssion on me. If it is written in text, like a book, then I am interested. I watch audio described movies all the time, but I still get more details from books. To wrap this up, you really can't adapt something visual for a blind person without losing something in the process. I get more from a textual description from a scene than a clip with audio description.
bradley22 1 points 3y ago
I totally qgree, visual stuff doesn’r mean much to me.
bicth490 [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Fair enough. What art do you prefer?
oncenightvaler 1 points 3y ago
I enjoy song parodies specifically either: EPic Rap Battles of History or the Key of Awesome or a lot of Witney Avalon's work.
However I also enjoy theory videos like Film Theory, the Theorizer and more serious videos from people like Big Joel and Lindsay Ellis.
p.s. I have a good friend whose a visual artist who does various projects of trying to make her paintings as tactile as possible, and she also did Braille cross-stitch.
However I also enjoy theory videos like Film Theory, the Theorizer and more serious videos from people like Big Joel and Lindsay Ellis.
p.s. I have a good friend whose a visual artist who does various projects of trying to make her paintings as tactile as possible, and she also did Braille cross-stitch.
BlueRock956 1 points 3y ago
I just experienced the vidio example that you shared. I enjoyed it very much. I'm totally blind, and I used a service called Aira. It made me think about the following:
We lived in a world where everyone minded their business and nobody communicated with each other. We then went through a shit show and we were all hit by it. People fell, and at the end we stood up and helped each other; some people stayed on the groun, not moving.
We lived in a world where everyone minded their business and nobody communicated with each other. We then went through a shit show and we were all hit by it. People fell, and at the end we stood up and helped each other; some people stayed on the groun, not moving.
CloudyBeep 1 points 3y ago
You've identified some of the problems of audio description.
Something that some researchers are interested in is enhancing the sound of movies and TV to allow blind people to get a greater understanding of what's happening without additional information, and supplying any additional information through character's monologues.
I don't watch any highly visual media apart from movies and TV unless I have someone to describe it to me.
Something that some researchers are interested in is enhancing the sound of movies and TV to allow blind people to get a greater understanding of what's happening without additional information, and supplying any additional information through character's monologues.
I don't watch any highly visual media apart from movies and TV unless I have someone to describe it to me.
bradley22 0 points 3y ago
There’s audio description for tv and video.
bicth490 [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Yea ik. I just wanted to try something a bit different. And wanted to know if there was anything out there to reference.
Audio description are plain bare bones facts. It doesnt include shot size, emotion, the directors visual touch , etc. I was thinking - maybe I can try and adapt that for this project. But I don't want to make from a place of not knowing, ya know?
Audio description are plain bare bones facts. It doesnt include shot size, emotion, the directors visual touch , etc. I was thinking - maybe I can try and adapt that for this project. But I don't want to make from a place of not knowing, ya know?
bradley22 1 points 3y ago
If you want to make a project, I’d say go for it and we can tell you what we like.
CloudyBeep 1 points 3y ago
You must not have read the post very carefully.
bradley22 0 points 3y ago
Oh, I took the of that nature part to mean movies and shows. You’re right; I didn’t read it properly.
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