What field do you work in & where do you live?(self.Blind)
submitted by mi1ky_tea
I'm really curious for my own purposes as almost every single blind person I know has been unsuccessful in getting hired where I live. Unless it's like the CNIB or something directly related to disabilities.
In other blind forums I've noticed most people who held down jobs or even careers lived in the UK or the states and I'm trying to figure out what these places are doing differently.
CountryBoysMakeDo6 points3y ago
I know this isnt exactly helpful but speaking for my dad he pretty much gave up on finding a job and he has really pushed 110% but nobody has wanted to give him a chance. He considers himself retired now but I know he would jump at the chance of any job that payed enough to live off of.
We live in the deep South so I think our environment to partly to blame. I love the south but people are behind the times and still alot of people are ignorant of the fact that blind people are an asset not a liability.
mi1ky_tea [OP]3 points3y ago
It's actually quite depressing . I'm super motivated and have the desire to do so much more and I know I'm not the only one. The fact we have to beg for a chance is pathetic. I've seen a stats before which shows the high retention rate of persons with disabilities. We're hard workers.
CountryBoysMakeDo1 points3y ago
My dad feels the same way. Still there are some companies and even goverment jobs out there that exclusively hire the blind. You can even apply for those jobs out of state.
From what ive seen you either have to have a pretty advanced education/skill usually with computers or relocate to some of these manufacturing, factory, or light office work type jobs that are willing to give you a chance.
Ive tried to push my dad to be a translator but massage therapist is also a good path from what ive heard.
Best of luck to you.
mi1ky_tea [OP]1 points3y ago
I don't live in the states so. I've heard banks here will hire people with disabilities but haven't had much luck with that. I've tried all the places people told me to that hire people with disabilities, home depot, Walmart, etc no luck.
thatblindgirl5 points3y ago
I am a high school English teacher and I live in Florida. I am visually impaired, but it was still very difficult to find a job. I finally found a school that took a chance on me and has even made me department head!
psychgamer20142 points3y ago
This gives me some hope. I got hired for my first job as a special education teacher and got fired four days letter because the paraprofessional across the hall reported me to HR for being disabled. I got a call from the head of HR saying that Virginia “does not allowed disabled teachers in SPED. We cannot let these kids see that they can make something of themselves.” I turned around and got my license in MA (it took 48 hours instead of Virginia’s 8 months) and I was offered a part time job as an online AP psychology teacher two days later.
With all of that being said, I’m also working towards my behavior analyst license (which I can’t get in Virginia because of our insane laws), so I’ll probably move into clinical work and get my MSW and do behavioral therapy and SPED consultation for parents/kids.
I apologize for the rant, but it truly is a tragic state of affairs what the majority of us have been through.
thatblindgirl3 points3y ago
The fuck is going on with Virginia? I have a friend who just graduated with a degree in social work and she’s having trouble finding a job because people say that since she is completely blind, she will not be able to correctly spot signs of abuse…
psychgamer20141 points3y ago
Virginia is a dumpster fire that has had gasoline poured over it. I’ve done extensive research into this topic and apparently only 18 states will grant an occupational license to disabled people. A friend of mine just graduated with her M.Ed. in French education and had to move to Indiana to get her teaching license because she’s transgender and has generalized anxiety disorder.
Another friend of mine was a Latin teacher with cerebral palsy that was working on a provisional license. She had a third floor apartment and fell while carrying in groceries and broke her leg, so she was in a wheelchair for around three months. She went into work the next day and got a call from HR telling her that she was fired because she could not perform the essential functions of the job.
Another huge problem with Virginia, at least within the school systems, is that the schools have legislative authority, meaning that school rules are law and schools may make up whatever they please as long as they operate within the confines of IDEA, Section 504, etc.
mi1ky_tea [OP]1 points3y ago
Awe that's awesome! I love reading this. How do your students feel? Do they even notice your vision differences? Just curious.
thatblindgirl3 points3y ago
They definitely can tell that I don’t see well, but they haven’t quite figured out what I can and cannot see. I have a seeing eye dog, so they love that. I have a few tricks to monitor them and a lot of the students are tattle tails and enjoy telling me when someone did something wrong LOL
achromatic_032 points3y ago
I live in the US (Midwest) and I work in HR. I have also been a dishwasher, retail salesperson, and done some odd jobs when I couldn't find steady work. It was all very bad until I got the HR jobs. I had the same issue of growing up thinking everything was fine, but when I got my first retail job, I learned that there is discrimination. I would not recommend retail! I went through an employment class for the visually impaired and blind. It was great, and that's how I got into an HR training program with government. I now work at a financial institution, and there is another blind individual who works in our specialty accounts department. I also know of others in tech. I would also say writing gigs are easy to come by and do remotely like copywriting or writing articles for internet publications.
GTbuddha2 points3y ago
I live in Central America there is no way to get a job here if you are blind. I have two masters degrees and no job.
Vwave2 points3y ago
I live in Portland OR, I am in Tech Sales. WiFI test equipment to be exact. Legally blind since birth my pupils don't close, 20/200 best correctable if the light is not too bright.
codeplaysleep2 points3y ago
I'm a software engineer in the US. I live in Kentucky and work for a company in Seattle.
I have the advantage of being in a field that can be done remotely, but both of the past two companies I've worked for (which encompasses nearly a decade of work) were aware of my blindness before I was hired and have bought me equipment/assistive tech when I've needed to upgrade things.
Prior to working for these companies, I did freelance work for many years and built it into a good, steady income, but I hated the constant selling that was involved.
I think a lot of my career success comes from the flexibility of working remotely - so I can find a job anywhere in the country (or world if I wanted to deal with taxes), and being in a very in-demand field.
poochbrah2 points3y ago
I currently work for the government in the UK. Previously I worked for local government and have been offered several call centre roles in the past. I am visually impaired.
I have a friend who is completely blind who works for a guide dog charity.
I think he law in the UK is great for disabled people. You are guaranteed an interview if you meet the minimum requirement for any role so long as you have a disability. Providing its something you can possibly do ie you won't get an interview to drive a bus if you are blind.
Also large organisations have a quota of diversity they must reach meaning they should have an x number of disabled people employed.
FantasticGlove1 points3y ago
That's why I say just screw the job market and own a business. Sure its more difficult but its better to have your own thing then to beg for a position unless you have political connections.
noaimpara1 points3y ago
I’m blind from a genetic disorder so I know a lot of other blind people.
I’m a student in English linguistics and International business. I’m hoping to work in business in the future (maybe marketing or something). As a student, I’ve worked as an assistant to a commercial director and a freelance translator and interpretor. I have an interpretation gig this tuesday and I’m super pumped. I live in Paris but I’m moving to London this fall.
That’s for me, but if I can help, here’s what my famiy does.
My brother lives in Tel Aviv and he is a HR manager.
My dad lives in suburban Paris and he is a financial director. He has a bachelor in economy and an accounting diploma.
My grandfather was born in Tunisia, he moved to France later in life and became a upholsterer. He owned 4 shops in Paris. Now, he and my grandma travel the world and they have no particular homebase.
My great-grandfather was born in Italy, moved to Tunisia, and then to France. He was a musician and we still get royalties from his stuff!
All around, I think you can do anything and live anywhere if you’re blind. Visual impairment shouldn’t stop you from doing great things.
mi1ky_tea [OP]1 points3y ago
That's the thing though, I've never let it hold me back. I do lots of things that would be considered dangerous. People are shocked when they find out I can ride a bike and stuff.
Recently on my personal Facebook I've been getting such responses as " you can't let your disability stop you" or " you can do anything you want" except that just isn't a realistic expectation.
Growing up I always did everything I wanted to, ride a bike, went places by myself, did woodworking in school, etc. I always considered myself the same as everyone else and never really thought much else.
It's only been over the last 2 years that I've truly realized that I am in fact at a disadvantage and that I DO face discrimination when it comes to finding employment. It's a very real thing and it's starting to frustrate that people won't admit this.
No, I can't do whatever I want. If an employer sees me as useless, a liability or doesn't want to be bothered with accommodations or take the time to get to know me, then I can't do anything about that. It's so easy to just say just move on to the next one. That's EXACTLY what I've been doing. People don't send to realize that there's already jobs I am ruled out of. Anything that requires a license, fast food, anything that requires precision, warehouses etc. I've applied to find of different places, and yes I believe in myself. I 1000% know that I'm capable. I don't need to be told that. But the reality is just because I know that I would absolutely be an asset to any employer, they just don't see it that way.
I'm also tired of " you shouldn't care what others think" Why should I not care that I'm an automatic write off all the time just because of a physical disability? Of course I care, I don't want to be thought of that way.
Sometimes it feels like people willfully refuse to acknowledge this is a really widespread issue.
Things are also going to very from region to region. Seems this province is ridiculously behind in supporting disabled folks.
noaimpara1 points3y ago
Dude honestly you’re right! As a matter of fact, yes you can do anything. But the thing is sighted people are not always willing to believe that and that’s the issue because they’re the one hiring.
I understand your frustration, it took me a year of applying to new places everyday to get the first job I did. However, I do have to admit I am extremely privileged in the sense that I live in a welfare state and I am at a much greater advantage than a lot of people in other countries.
I can’t begin to imagine how hard and frustrating it must be for you. You have every right to be angry. It’s so fucking infuriating when you’re very aware of your assets and how much you can bring to the table, but sighted people are just not willing to listen. Your abilities being constantly questionned is one of the worst thing about being blind.
It might be easier for me, because I apply for office related jobs, but I would highly suggest completely omitting that you’re blind in your resume. No one needs to know until you’ve been hired but you. Of course that might be harder to do if you’re doing physical type labor.
Can I ask a few questions? Like how old are you, what field do you work in and what stage of life are you at?
I’m sorry if my comment sounded annoying. I now see how it could have been infuriating. I also hate fake positive stuff like "believe in yourself :)))" especially when I know life just doesn’t work like that. I see where you’re coming from and I understand my perspective was shaped by the privileges I’ve had in my life and I’m sorry if I came across like I pretended everything’s fine and dandy.
Kylefornicationn1 points3y ago
I am from Toronto, but currently living in Asia
I am an entrepreneur, my role mostly relates to sales
I deeply empathize with fellow blind people who are looking for work. Apparently the employment rate for blind people is 38 percent, which is literally disgusting. So dont be discouraged by the amount of people responding that are blind and have successfully found a job and you cannot. It isnt you, it is the world we live in.
And just a bit of a rant of frustration: I honestly dont know if this will change in our lifetime. In my personal opinion, young people just arent a priority for CNIB... The majority of the blind community are seniors, and I feel like they take up most of the resources. And if this is not the case, then CNIB has completely failed us, because they're meant to advocate for the blind community and we have a nearly 70 percent unemployment rate? HALF of blind people in Canada live on under 20 thousand dollars per year. This is insane. I dont want to take away from their movement, but Toronto board of health has declared anti black racism a Public Health Crisis, citing income inequalities, employment inequalities, poverty inequality. Honestly, if this is a crisis, then the inequality for the blind community must be an apocalypse. But like anything else, we are such a small group. Not only small but have no influence.
Anyways, I wish you luck, keep trying, I believe persistence helps.
mi1ky_tea [OP]3 points3y ago
I 100% agreed with what you said. At this point I'm actually baffled. I thought Ontario had things "in place" to help people with disabilities but that's obviously not true. Inputting that you're a equal opportunity workplace and that BS means absolutely NOTHING! And that crappy "incentive" from the government to higher disabled folks.... LMAO It must not be that much of an insensitive. Ontario really fricken needs to step up and address this shit.
The other thing I noticed is there no real public outcry. The only thing I see is people pittying their own / others disability or fighting for ODSP to be more. What about us who want to work. Why is nobody really speaking out? I know a few people who do. Maybe one or two plus me, and I'm the comments it's always people acting like we're just negative or holding *ourselves* back. Uh no, this is a *reality* for a lot of is. Let's acknowledge that and stop pretending to make yourself feel better.
I've been to 3 employment centres. Two of which specifically help people with disabilities, the other has a disability department and a few of the staff have admitted that blind or legally blind are some of the most difficult to get employed. The fact that employment agencies are struggling with this should be concerning...
Someone else pointed out to me that when these places say "disabilities" they more often then not get people with cognitive or mental health issues rather than physical. Not that they aren't important but this just further proves that people with viable disabilities are over looked.
At this point this is down right undignifying and upsetting. I'm *begging* just for a minimum wage job. That's absolutely pathetic. Unfortunately for me I don't really have friends or family to rely on and I'm in a bad living situation and because I can't even get a min wage job I'm really really stuck.
Oh side note, apperently I'm disabled enough to struggle to find work but not disabled enough to meet criteria to have help with housing....even though I was also homeless. Well shit, guess it would have been nice to be born with a more severe disability.
At this point I really have no words, this is just so screwed up.
Sorry I really ranted but most people outside our community really doesn't understand the gravity of the situation.
I just want to be a functioning.human :(
Kylefornicationn1 points3y ago
Yup, its total bullshit... I think awareness plays a big role.... Before I lost my vision, blind people weren't on my radar... Hadn't met one blind person in my entire life, never thought about them.
The idea of equal opportunity is very challenging... If you aren't educated on vision loss, would you rather hire a blind person or a sighted person? Probably a sighted person.
From my own experience, I have some vision, so I was fortunate when I go to interviews I would not tell them about my vision. But in the 2 jobs I had before I started my company, after being hired, they tried to fire me when I asked for some accessibility accommodations.
I did gain a different perspective on minimum wage jobs since losing my vision though... There is absolutely no shame in working a minimum wage job
mi1ky_tea [OP]1 points3y ago
You're right about the education part. There's also the liabilities or the accommodation job expectations. For example I'm only legally blind so I couldn't do cash at a grocery store as it's just far too small I can't read the codes for the produce, etc. But could definitely do stock and other things but the way they see it is why would I hire someone who can do 1/2 things I want when I can hire someone who can do every job I need? On one hand I can't blame them, I get the thought process but on the other hand it doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
I'm sure min wage is shit. I just feel I really have no other options. I got my diploma in travel & tourism (way before the pandemic) and I thought i would actually be able to get some sort of job. But honestly I didn't really consider the fact that other graduates are fully sighted and have actual experience. I thought that having the qualification would show for something you know?
I feel so stuck, I considered going back to school but honestly I don't think that's an option. I need to get out of my situation and I can't if I'm in class rather than working.
AndAdapt1 points3y ago
I feel passionate about this too. The blindness charities never seem to take employment seriously. The advice they hand out seems to have no basis in reality.
Whether it will change in our lifetimes i am unsure on that too. I actually decided to change my career path in an effort to try and make some difference in my local area, but i know realistically the number of people i will assist over the next few years will be low. Longer term though i hope to end up working at a level i can perhaps influence larger change
SirJektive1 points3y ago
I'm Canadian, and I work as a software developer for a big tech company. I've worked at a few large and small places in the states and Canada, and I find that people in the IT industry generally don't care about your being blind if you're doing your job effectively. Big tech companies are generally good with helping you set up any needed accommodations, like a screen reader on your work laptop.
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I've done remote projects where I didn't even bring up my blindness; programming can be good for letting you pull that off, because much of the collaboration is done over text.
mi1ky_tea [OP]1 points3y ago
I would have to go to school for that no?
The only positive I can think of now is that interviews are done remote and someone told me they couldn't notice my disability. But honestly who knows.
I'm struggling to even get a job at Dollarama.
SirJektive1 points3y ago
Not necessarily. Lots of people get into programming without formal training in it, because there are many online resources and communities to help you learn the skills and find jobs.
I currently live in Virginia (I want to get out of the South ASAP). I’m currently an online adjunct professor of psychology, AP psychology teacher, local adjunct community college professor, and student clinical behavior analyst.
I’m actually in the process of publishing an article on this very topic. The unemployment rate for the blind, at least in the USA, is something like 90%. My state makes this even worse by legally mandating a driver’s license for all in person jobs and they instituted a cut off of 20/40 visual acuity for any type of occupational license. The only reason I teach AP psychology right now is because I was able to get my teaching license in another state.
mi1ky_tea [OP]1 points3y ago
Wow that's so crazy! I can't believe the rate is so high cause it seems like blind people in the states have a decent chance. Many of the blind folks I know including myself can't even get any entry level job, even in retail. It's so upsetting. :(
psychgamer20141 points3y ago
I didn’t even have a part time job until I was 26, partially due to university studies. I’m going for my PhD soon to hopefully be able to get a full time online position since I’ve developed extensive experience teaching online. I don’t know how it is in Canada, but all of the retail jobs that I’ve seen mandate a driver’s license.
mi1ky_tea [OP]1 points3y ago
I don't believe that's a requirement here. I've never heard of that. A lot of people take public transit.
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