My grandmother is blind, and is having a really hard time with her iPhone 8 Plus... any recommendations on phones with better accessibility for blind people?(self.Blind)
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bscross327 points3y ago
The iPhone is about the best, but it doesn't sound like you're using any of the accessibility features it has. It can magnify the screen and let you move around with three fingers, this is called zoom. It can speak and read everything you come across, though it does change the operation of the phone, this is called VoiceOver. There are high contrast settings and all kinds of other stuff.
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It used to be under settings > general > accessibility, but since about iOS 13, it's moved so it's now just settings > accessibility. Have a look in there and try these things out and see if there are any she might be able to get used to.
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I am thinking that it was a mistake to move away from the flip phone though. It was something she knew, and could use, even if not the greatest. You're asking a lot of her to come to grips with, especially if she was never technologically oriented. Could she learn it, yes. Does she want to... ehhh, probably debatable, but I'd lean towards no.
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The one thing I will say about working with older people is that they put their own road blocks in place. They're still capable of learning. Hell, even my grandma who has dementia can still learn, it just comes to the point of being muscle memory. I found this out when it was necessary to get a new cable box and remote. I had to help her a lot with it at first, but now she almost never needs me for that. So, it's generally not a matter of, "I can't learn it", it's more one of, "I don't want to learn it".
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I would just ask her if she likes this thing, or she would like it better if you could make it more usable for her, or if she'd rather go back to a flip phone. I think she'd probably want to go back.
thesaltiestpickle2 points3y ago
Yes, you’re totally right, I forgot to mention in my post that we tried Voiceover, and all of us really tried to help her learn and operate it, but I do think that is something that she is not willing to learn. You hit the nail on the head good sir, my siblings and myself tried for hours to try to help her understand it, but she would always get super flustered and would end up saying she’ll try to learn it herself, and a day later she came to me to ask if I could take it off for her. It has been a while since we have tried that, and I will ask her if she would be willing to give it a shot again. I believe we have also tried zoom, but I will ask her about that too. As for the other accessibility features, I myself have not sat down and tried to change the contrast with her, she is gone right now but when she gets home I’ll sit her down and experiment with it and see what works best for her. Thank you so much for your response!
Prefect3166 points3y ago
You want Voiceover. It will read everything for her. It takes some practice but there is a practice mode available so she can get comfortable with the gestures.
Turn it on in settings under Accessibility.
thesaltiestpickle1 points3y ago
Yes, I forgot to mention in my post ghat we have tried voiceover, and she had a very difficult time learning it, but I am going to sit her down later and ask if she would be willing to give it another shot, and I’ll do my best to help her understand it. Thank you so much!
CloudyBeep5 points3y ago
Unless she uses a flip phone, she won't fine a more accessible phone. She should start learning to use the iPhone's accessibility tools. There are many assistive technology trainers who can teach her on-site or remotely, and depending on where you live, such services might be free.
thesaltiestpickle2 points3y ago
This is a very good idea, thank you I will definitely look into this!
Hellsacomin942 points3y ago
There is a phone called blindshell, made for blind/low vision people. Search for it on YouTube and see if you think it would help.
astrolurus2 points3y ago
I haven’t seen anyone mention this but you can help her get set up with an assistive technology trainer for free through the state agency for the blind or a nonprofit like Lighthouse. There are even nonprofits which cater to the needs of senior citizens which can be helpful with motivating openness to technology.
thesaltiestpickle1 points3y ago
Wow I haven’t even thought of this, this is awesome. I will definitely look into that. :) thank you so much!
maximumjanet1 points3y ago
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vwlsmssng1 points3y ago
I learned to use VoiceOver (see other replies) before a taught a visually impaired user. This works well because when they rant about how frustrating it can be at times they know someone who can sympathise.
VoiceOver (VO) is very good but takes a lot a learning and patience. You need to "get" how differently the phone works with VO and what its *user model* is.
Normal Iphone: tap to do, swipe to move, nearly everything else you do with your eyes.
VoiceOver Iphone: touch to ask what is under your finger, double to so, two finger swipe down to read aloud, three finger swipe to move things (e.g. swipe to next screen, scroll messages), three finger double tap to mute speech, three finger treble tap to blank the screen for privacy (unless zoom is on so three finger double tap to zoom, triple tap - mute, quadruple tap - blank screen). Then there is the rotor, I still haven't got the hang of the rotor.
This might seem complicated, well it is, but your Gran won't need to learn all of it at once for this to be useful, and she already has the iPhone so give it a go. At least let VO read out some messages with emoji in, this can be hilarious.
Siri still works fine with VO, though I have seen Siri try it follow VO speaking as if it is you giving commands.
thesaltiestpickle2 points3y ago
Thank you so much for this, I forgot to mention in my post that we have tried voiceover, and she got frustrated with it and ultimately decided to take it off, but I did not think learning and using it myself so it would be easier to teach her. This is an amazing idea, thank you so so much you magnificent person!
vwlsmssng1 points3y ago
There is a bonus, more quality time with your gran!
Xenc1 points3y ago
Siri can be difficult to get to do what you’d like it to do, but that could be one alternative.
Siri can jump to apps, make calls or texts, and read notifications.
thesaltiestpickle1 points3y ago
Yeah, that is what she currently uses to make calls and respond to texts, the latter being a little more difficult for her. It works quite well honestly, but since she doesn’t understand the functions of the phone she has quite a hard time using Siri to the best of her ability. For instance, she will receive a text, and accidentally open it, then ask Siri to read her new messages and she doesn’t understand when Siri says she has no new messages. Do you know if there is a way for Siri to have Siri re-read texts? Thank you so much for your suggestion!
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