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Do blind and deaf people have a rivalry? (self.Blind)
submitted by dercoomerq2e
Have you ever personally seen a fight between the two? Who won?
LexieDream 11 points 3y ago
Yes. Our gangs fight often.
Prefect316 7 points 3y ago
If we can find each other, it's on
Emms246 2 points 2y ago
Legendary comment right here
Prefect316 1 points 2y ago
Thank you for the silver.
Emms246 1 points 2y ago
You're welcome my dude
bjayernaeiy 1 points 3y ago
No deaf people are allowed in our territories
AlexDalcourt 7 points 3y ago
No
While we are not unified completely we are not enemies.
There is a difference in how we view our disabilities.
The deaf community has built a culture around language and history and much like other minorities takes pride within having said label.
Blind people recognize that yeah, we have a disability because we are not "able" in a sighted world.
It doesnt mean we are less than anyone else.
There is miscommunication and disagreements sometimes between the two but we are not enemies, just tentative roommates
While we are not unified completely we are not enemies.
There is a difference in how we view our disabilities.
The deaf community has built a culture around language and history and much like other minorities takes pride within having said label.
Blind people recognize that yeah, we have a disability because we are not "able" in a sighted world.
It doesnt mean we are less than anyone else.
There is miscommunication and disagreements sometimes between the two but we are not enemies, just tentative roommates
_Night_Wing 7 points 3y ago
I'm visually impaired and I wear hearing aids.
No...? I can't speak for all of us but I have no problems with the deaf community though I do not wish to join. I consider myself part of the blind community but not the deaf community. I have some deaf friends though and I would say that the stereotype of the deaf feeling superior to others is rather extreme. I believe it is more of a mentality of, "if you can hear then you aren't deaf". But let's be honest, the bind community does that too. However, if you want to fit in you have to know ASL.
I will say that from my experience the disabled community is divided in how we underestimate others with different disabilities, not just with hearing and vision impairments but people with learning and mobility disabilities along others. Then there is a generational and racial divide I've noticed.
We need to reach out, listen, and learn from others in order to work together to overcome these divisions.
No...? I can't speak for all of us but I have no problems with the deaf community though I do not wish to join. I consider myself part of the blind community but not the deaf community. I have some deaf friends though and I would say that the stereotype of the deaf feeling superior to others is rather extreme. I believe it is more of a mentality of, "if you can hear then you aren't deaf". But let's be honest, the bind community does that too. However, if you want to fit in you have to know ASL.
I will say that from my experience the disabled community is divided in how we underestimate others with different disabilities, not just with hearing and vision impairments but people with learning and mobility disabilities along others. Then there is a generational and racial divide I've noticed.
We need to reach out, listen, and learn from others in order to work together to overcome these divisions.
devinprater 4 points 3y ago
I think that Deaf people fight harder for inclusion than blind people. I mean, they have subtitles everywhere! Even in games! But audio description? Nope! Subtitles and captioning are very standard, while blind accessibility is quite rare in standard stuff. So yeah, I kinda envy them a little for their courage to stand up and demand things, rather than whining on forums and Twitter like some of us, including me, tend to do.
CloudyBeep 2 points 3y ago
Disability groups piggy-back off each others' successes.
• When captioning became regulated, we used the high amount of captioning that was mandated to push for audio description to be introduced and then increased.
• When some governments started subsidizing technology so that deaf people could make and receive phone calls with either captioning or a video interpreter, we pushed for deaf-blind people (who tend to be part of the blind community) to also receive heavily subsidized technology for communication.
• Sometimes, when a blind or deaf person gets a job at a large company, other disabled people will apply for positions there.
• When governments make regulations around education which is initially encouraged by one disability group, all of the disability groups advocate for it.
• When captioning became regulated, we used the high amount of captioning that was mandated to push for audio description to be introduced and then increased.
• When some governments started subsidizing technology so that deaf people could make and receive phone calls with either captioning or a video interpreter, we pushed for deaf-blind people (who tend to be part of the blind community) to also receive heavily subsidized technology for communication.
• Sometimes, when a blind or deaf person gets a job at a large company, other disabled people will apply for positions there.
• When governments make regulations around education which is initially encouraged by one disability group, all of the disability groups advocate for it.
snorken123 1 points 2y ago
No, they don't.
They're similar to the high school groups where some choose to do music, some do art and some do sports. In other word people doing and enjoying different things.
Deafness and blindness are opposites like how a painter and a musician are opposite. They may have different experiences, interests, views on the world etc., but still be fine with each others. You can respect other people without being able to relate with them in everything.
Deaf people tends to be visual. They tend to like having a visual language like sign language, visual hobbies like art or sports and watch movies.
Blind people tends to be auditive and tactile which are the opposite. They tend to like auditive languages like speech, auditive hobbies like music/radio/audiobooks, chatting and the tactile aspect of sports.
It's however not uncommon for deaf people to think they're the lucky and well off ones, or that deafness is much easier to live with than blindness. Most blind people are used to being blind, so not everyone think it's that hard. That's very individual.
They're similar to the high school groups where some choose to do music, some do art and some do sports. In other word people doing and enjoying different things.
Deafness and blindness are opposites like how a painter and a musician are opposite. They may have different experiences, interests, views on the world etc., but still be fine with each others. You can respect other people without being able to relate with them in everything.
Deaf people tends to be visual. They tend to like having a visual language like sign language, visual hobbies like art or sports and watch movies.
Blind people tends to be auditive and tactile which are the opposite. They tend to like auditive languages like speech, auditive hobbies like music/radio/audiobooks, chatting and the tactile aspect of sports.
It's however not uncommon for deaf people to think they're the lucky and well off ones, or that deafness is much easier to live with than blindness. Most blind people are used to being blind, so not everyone think it's that hard. That's very individual.
Fire_tommy 1 points 3y ago
2 weeks later but... Is it possible you mean a blonde blind girl and a deaf girl with spectacles and a pink haired interpreter rivalry?
*Squints*
*Squints*
sithsecretwayfinder 1 points 3y ago
I have ushers syndrome. Im deaf and blind. No I don't get any rivalry. Although the deaf community will help me when I need it as their eyesight is awesome. I have 2 deaf friends whom are oral speakers and both really take care of me when I need it. The blind community are very welcoming and they help me too. In fact thanks to blind groups like these i get vital tips and hacks as well as an understanding that someone else knows. Even if they are not deaf and blind. There's no need for rivalry because there's only one way forward, and that's together.
dercoomerq2e [OP] 1 points 3y ago
On the bright side you could wear your hair down to your eyes and put on a leather trench coat to be the most Goth deaf and blind guy in history.
bscross32 1 points 3y ago
I've never heard of that.
noaimpara 1 points 3y ago
I’ve never met a deaf person irl but the online community scares/intimidates me a little.
Prefect316 1 points 3y ago
Oh yeah dawg we sneak up on each other all the time. It's hilarious.
IronDominion 1 points 3y ago
No, most of the disabled community is pretty unified
dercoomerq2e [OP] 7 points 3y ago
But if push comes to shove you wouldn't see it coming.
noaimpara 3 points 3y ago
r/angryupvote
IronDominion 3 points 3y ago
I want to be mad but I can’t be
Winnmark 3 points 3y ago
I like it, it's not original, but I like it.
Winnmark -2 points 3y ago
I wouldn't necessarily say that the disabled community is unified, but I also wouldn't necessarily say that the blind and deaf communities are against each other.
With the previous statement in mind then, I do want to point out that the deaf community is... Really strange.
they're proud about their disability (I mean, that's already not a good start), so much so that they think they're better than us because we use our ears. They resist improvement. They literally think they're some superhumans or something, I mean, that's some Hitler, Nazi aryan shit right there.
With the previous statement in mind then, I do want to point out that the deaf community is... Really strange.
they're proud about their disability (I mean, that's already not a good start), so much so that they think they're better than us because we use our ears. They resist improvement. They literally think they're some superhumans or something, I mean, that's some Hitler, Nazi aryan shit right there.
AlexDalcourt 5 points 3y ago
There is a certain amount of rejection of the disabled concept yes, but it's kind of like how pride was originally a riot and is now a parade, deaf people had to fight for their rights and ability in society so they overcompensate.
Both communities have two different definitions of disability and thsts why we dont always get along.
To the blind community we accept that we are disabled in a world that functions through sight because we lack that sense. Therefore we accept the term disabled.
Deaf people believe that disability is a stigmatized word and choose to do away with it completely.
The deaf community has its moments of egotism but not all believe they are superhuman, some just need to believe they are worth that much to function in a hearing world
Both communities have two different definitions of disability and thsts why we dont always get along.
To the blind community we accept that we are disabled in a world that functions through sight because we lack that sense. Therefore we accept the term disabled.
Deaf people believe that disability is a stigmatized word and choose to do away with it completely.
The deaf community has its moments of egotism but not all believe they are superhuman, some just need to believe they are worth that much to function in a hearing world
PaynefullyCute 3 points 3y ago
A lot of nuance too. Reminds me of Autistic vs ADHD in the neurodivergent community. We generally get along, but how we experience our brains and the world around us will naturally lead to very different perspectives. Ultimately, though, I think everyone in disabled/different/neurodivergent/mental illness/etc communities just wants life to be a bit easier for all of us. So those debates about what term to use or how our needs are sometimes in conflict are much friendlier than outsiders seem to think.
Fange_Strellow 5 points 3y ago
Deaf people have a culture based around a language. This is what they take pride in and reject the label of disabled. This can look very different for different people and groups. Your comment is a bit too ignorant to brush off as levity.
KillerLag 9 points 3y ago
Something that my teacher mentioned in one of my classes, and I've found it to be surprisingly accurate. "Losing your vision separates you from the world, but losing your hearing separates you from people".
If someone were to suddenly lose their sight, they can still likely talk to people around them. It is harder to interact with the world, though (navigation, dealing with unmarked buttons, forms, etc).
But if someone were to suddenly lose their hearing, communication gets harder. Yes, you can still write/text, but it takes longer to do, and it's harder. Someone trying to get your attention from across the room requires flashing the lights or walking over to tap you on the shoulder. But they have the ability to drive and interact with most things that do not have an audible interface.
ASL or Auslan, while made of English words, has a different grammatical structure, and is essentially a different language. So when the deaf primarily speak sign language, they can speak it much faster and more fluently than texting (that's why FaceTime is so popular with the deaf. They can see the facial expressions with the sign language, something text doesn't do well).
I've had clients with vision who were born and grew up in different countries, and didn't integrate too much here (I live in Canada). But when they lost significant hearing as well and learned ASL, they started becoming integrated into the deaf community because it was so much easier to communicate than with their original community.
If someone were to suddenly lose their sight, they can still likely talk to people around them. It is harder to interact with the world, though (navigation, dealing with unmarked buttons, forms, etc).
But if someone were to suddenly lose their hearing, communication gets harder. Yes, you can still write/text, but it takes longer to do, and it's harder. Someone trying to get your attention from across the room requires flashing the lights or walking over to tap you on the shoulder. But they have the ability to drive and interact with most things that do not have an audible interface.
ASL or Auslan, while made of English words, has a different grammatical structure, and is essentially a different language. So when the deaf primarily speak sign language, they can speak it much faster and more fluently than texting (that's why FaceTime is so popular with the deaf. They can see the facial expressions with the sign language, something text doesn't do well).
I've had clients with vision who were born and grew up in different countries, and didn't integrate too much here (I live in Canada). But when they lost significant hearing as well and learned ASL, they started becoming integrated into the deaf community because it was so much easier to communicate than with their original community.
Winnmark 1 points 3y ago
I've worked with deaf people, do you want to chill?
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