How to accurately write two main characters with different types of blindness?(self.Blind)
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[deleted] [OP]5 points3y ago
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ninicarvalho1 points3y ago
Those were things I was worried about. I appreciate that second paragraph as well because those are very good questions I haven't taken into consideration. That third paragraph does seem like the kind of thing her parents wouldn't be aware of doing. Do you think maybe I should consider looking at other causes for her blindness instead where it could be more accurate?
I definitely understand why you wouldn't read a story without answers/ basic questions without real answers. It's the small minority of readers who point out my inaccuracies who make my novel more realistic to those who don't even pick up on the mechanical questions so I understand that. You've given me a lot to think about.
There are other things given in the background. The reason there are people with other disabilities in that town they live in is to show them doing ''normal'' things which she didn't know they could do. It's more like teaching her, a girl with a disability herself who didn't know much about disabilities beforehand, that all these people don't do what they do despite they're blind. They just do them because they're people, not walking disabilities. His plotline centres around him being a baker and helping the town and it is a romance. It's where her constantly poking at the fact that disabilities aren't normal where she's from that makes him start feeling more and more detached because she's making him feel less like Beau the baker and more like Beau the blind kid. I'm not sure if that makes sense but the point of my book was to point out the issues of inspiration porn without coming across as though I'm teaching some kind of lesson. I genuinely didn't mean to fall into the category that I was trying to jab at.
For her it was going to be whenever he shows her something beautiful, she goes home and her family treats her like she's broken and when she does something they consider ''normal'' and call her inspiring I'd show the effects of them actually being counterintuitive. The boy's mother would then talk to them about how to stop doing that and focus more on helping her focus on her artistic abilities instead. The mother would basically tell them to stop mourning her eyesight and instead help her with the other subplots. One of the things for the girl was teaching her service dog (who was primarily given to her for the company since there are other modern technologies she can use) how to work with her.
I also wanted to normalize how disabilities are and not everyone is an inspiration since they've adapted to living that way and they're just living their lives like people without disabilities.
CloudyBeep5 points3y ago
A person's experience of the world if they have light perception or total blindness is almost identical. Being able to find a bright light source really doesn't help that much most of the time.
To find out about people with total blindness from birth, you might want to read about people who have anaphthalmia (no eyes) or who suffered retinoblastoma (retinal cancer) as babies and now use prosthetics.
Your story plot sounds quite clichéd. You also shouldn't be wary of causing offense because most of the people complaining about things like "blind ignorance" are actually sighted people who don't know any blind people.
ninicarvalho2 points3y ago
Ahh, that makes sense.
I will definitely look into that!
There are other subplots in there and it's more of a meet-cute for them because knowing her character she wouldn't care to look into other kinds of art she could do had a sighted person offered. I stray away from it since it's more character-driven than plot-driven. I've heard about that. It makes me feel kind of silly for not realizing that either haha
rp-turtle4 points3y ago
I agree with other commenters regarding where to find material to inform the writing of your characters.
I just wanted to add that I don’t like the plot. It sounds cheesy and yeah, a bit cliché. If you want one blind character to help another cope with their vision loss, maybe make it more of an implicit sub plot. Otherwise it just kinda comes across as inspiration porn. Sighted people love that stuff. Obviously, there’s definitely a way for you to write all of this in a way that is not annoyingly inspirational and cliché. I’m just saying that’s something you should be cautious of while riding. Maybe make it a romance? The Focus is on the two characters falling in love but a side effect is the character who is born blind helps the newly blind character adapt to their new life something like that. It kinda plays into the stereotype that blind people only date other blind people but whatever. Maybe this could be good as a kids book for kids who were newly nlind. I don’t know. These are just my initial thoughts.
ninicarvalho3 points3y ago
It is a romance and I thought that was what I was trying to do (falling in love and showing her there are more kinds of art than just visual stimulating kinds) I know about the stereotype of blind people only dating blind people and I've also seen the stereotype blind people only date sighted people so I felt like I was trapped either way. I appreciate your initial thoughts, it's okay. I gave the general consensus for the part of my book I was uncertain with because the other subplots are more general and don't revolve purely around blindness which I didn't need help with per say. My main goal like I stated in one of my comments below (or above?) is to bash inspo porn not fall into it myself. Her making everything he does like some kind of feat messes with his head since she unintentionally makes him feel like that's all she is because she's projecting onto him from her family mourning her eyesight and praising her for every little thing she does. It's more of an internal battle for her of whether to follow what he says about it being an aspect of who she is and not only who she is but then her family who is sighted treats her like it's all she is. My goal is to show to not treat anyone with disabilities who are genuinely just living their lives as helpless or walking inspirations for just making coffee or something. So my characters aren't just blind characters, they're characters who happen to be blind and are affected by the issues above.
I will still write this story because it'll be a challenge for me to not use visual descriptions and still have it be descriptive as well as I usually wrote a new adult romance instead of a young adult romance like I am now. It may never be published but I don't want to give up on this idea since there is more to it but I will include the advice that I've been given to avoid playing into the thing I'm bashing.
Also, thank you again. I understand where you and the other commenters are coming from (:
rp-turtle2 points3y ago
I think the fact that you’ really recognize that we all pretty much had the same reaction of ew inspo porn says something. I think if you are careful and take that same awareness further into the process of writing, it could come out great! I’m sure you could run stuff by this community again in the future to see that you’re on the right track ya know. Thanks for taking the time and making the effort to get a quick gut check from the community. Best of luck on the project!
ninicarvalho3 points3y ago
I will and if I feel/ get told it's changing into inspo porn or is generally just inaccurate I could always rewrite it until I get it right (:
I definitely will ask for help again in future to make sure I'm on the right track and will have sensitivity readers as well once I finish for another read through.
Thank you for the encouragement and the help!
CloudyBeep3 points3y ago
And in case you haven't heard of inspiration porn before, here's how the term's coiner explains it: https://www.ted.com/talks/stella_young_i_m_not_your_inspiration_thank_you_very_much/transcript?language=en
ninicarvalho2 points3y ago
I have heard about it and seen/read about it before but I haven't seen that tedtalk before so I will definitely watch it soon. Thank you for linking it!
rp-turtle2 points3y ago
Thank you for adding that!
AlexDalcourt2 points3y ago
One of the biggest things I'd advise is to make sure her transition to blindness is realistic. There is emotional turmoil yes but also adjusting to functioning without vision is a massive part of becoming blind later in life. How does she travel? How does she make food? How does she use technology? A lot of accomadations take time to get used to. For example she could be SUPER annoyed with the voice that narrates her phone. Or she could get so frustrated because she cant find the light switch that she starts to cry. Transitioning to life without vision is a whole journey on it's own besides the emotional part.
If you want to use prosthetics in a character do research on prosthetic Irises. I have one (soon to be two) because my lens displaced and I have aniridia (lack of irises)
Check out these educational 1 minute videos about blindness and how eyesight works in general. It will help you accurately represent your characters eyes!
https://vm.tiktok.com/JNuspJS/
https://vm.tiktok.com/JNu39ct/
https://vm.tiktok.com/JNucHB6/
ninicarvalho2 points3y ago
Thanl you for attaching the videos! They were helpful in understanding the eye better and I like that you added diagrams with it. Overall it was too the point and very clear. The part where you pointed to the eye without the iris as an example made me laugh but I still understood your point XD
That was an aspect I was nervous about writing about because that's a situation where I really need to know what type of blindess she is and the whole history (which I need to know regardless) I like the examples you gave me and they're really fitting for her character. It must be so irritating being stuck with a phone voice narrator with a voice they hate and the level of frustration it must be to not find a light switch is so real and I feel like understated so I really like them both.
I was scared about writing a whiny teenage girl character (even though I am a teenage girl haha) since I typically write novels with older characters instead to avoid melodrama and miscommunication tropes so it'd be even worse for me to make her whiny about her disability while he barely even mentions his. By that I don't mean her emotional turmoil, more of her generally lamenting instead of doing other things as well. I think by pairing it with the functional struggles when scenes like those happens can really help balance it and show a more clear image of why it's so difficult instead of general assumptions people might make.
I hadn't thought of including eye prosthetics before so that's a new avenue i'd love to explore since I want my novel to feature newer technologies for blind people to live their lives easier. I've never heard of aniridia before either so I'll look into that as well.
Thank you for your comment!
AlexDalcourt2 points3y ago
No problem! Something people who want to work with visually impaired people have to do in school is try it.
Get a blindfold and fot a day, try to function normally. Watch a show with audio descriptions and try to keep up. Use voice over on your phone and try to keep up. It helps put it in perspective.
Reach out to me with any questions you have!
ninicarvalho2 points3y ago
Thank you so much for your help and the sweet offer! (:
I will definitely try those methods (exercises?) You've already given me so many creative ideas as well XD
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