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Any other blind linux users? (self.Blind)
submitted by Drunken_Idaho
Looking for some linux screen reader help. Is there an up to date screen reader for the linux command line?
As far as I can tell, orca is not maintained anymore and the linux desktop is not accessible? I'm using my linux machine headless via ssh right now and just wondering if anything exists to use the computer by itself without ssh.
Also is emacspeak useful?
Thanks
Cute_Country_1277 2 points 2y ago
If I’m using the CLI directly in a Linux vm I use tdsr. If I’m trying to use JAWS or NVDA to read the output I’ll ssh into the vm using PuTTy.
Drunken_Idaho [OP] 1 points 2y ago
Is this something that could be installed on raspberry pi? I thought it was for mac for some reason.
Cute_Country_1277 1 points 2y ago
Definitely not just for Mac. I’ve installed tdsr ion kali and parrot os successfully. I’ve never tried installing on a raspberry pi but in the tdsr article below, someone claimed it worked for them in the comments section.


https://www.applevis.com/blog/announcing-tdsr-command-line-screen-reader-macintosh-and-gnulinux
CloudsOfMagellan 1 points 2y ago
It's meant to be completely cross platform so should work fine
Amonwilde 2 points 2y ago
Emacspeak is great if you can get it working. It's very difficult to install, especially on Mac OS, and the learning curve of Emacs itself is high. But it's an amazing tool if you can get there.

I've had mixed success with Orca. It's maintained, though in terms of functionality it's a little disappointing. It only works in some desktop environments, and of course the website doesn't tell you what those are. I don't use it but I know people who do some some success.

Probably the most reliable (but in its own way limited) approach is to use a distro like Talking Arc with Speakup, which reads the command line. THis won't help with graphical stuff but it's fine if you don't want or need the graphical UI.

http://www.linux-speakup.org/

A project to follow (with an active mailing list) is Raspberry VI, dedicated to getting screen readers to work on the Raspberry Pie. They've come along way, as has the Pi.

http://www.raspberryvi.org/stories/index.html
Drunken_Idaho [OP] 2 points 2y ago
I am using a pi so this is perfect. Just command line would be fine as I usethe raspbian light distro that has no gui.
anthk_ 1 points 2y ago
I am not blind but tmux and yasr my be useful to all of you.

Also, bitlbee supports lots of IRC and Pidgin protocols, so you
can chat by just using a simple IRC client (there are several)
and connecting the client to localhost.

Yasr is a terminal screen reader, so it can be ultimately
useful with command line oriented tools. It has
separate keybings from the utilities (and the shell).

Another useful tool you may like it's edbrowse, which supports
even minimal Javascript. It may be good enough to even browse
JS dependant pages.

If you want I may paste you my fake user agent for Edbrowse
(Opera Mini 4) so you can get web pages on a more accesible
way.
CloudsOfMagellan 1 points 2y ago
I use tdsr for the terminal and emacspeak for coding on a Mac, both were far easier to set up then I expected
If you're using a raspberry pie then apt-get install emacspeak should work fine, might have to get a tts server too though I didn't for some reason and it worked
You can plug in headphones or a speaker to the pie and it will work perfectly
BenandGracie 1 points 2y ago
I would like to add if you have a Braille Display, BRLTTY is amazing.
BlindGuyNW 1 points 2y ago
I'll enthusiastically second both Emacspeak and Speakup. ON the contrary, I found EMacspeak on Mac OS to be quite easy to install, but this isn't really a topic about that in any case.

Speakup is part of the kernel in most modern distributions, though it mighht be a bit hard to get going. DO you have a soundcard for the PI? YOu'll need one, Espeak, and a program called Espeakup, which should be available via apt or whatever tool you use.
Drunken_Idaho [OP] 1 points 2y ago
So right now I'm running my pi headless by ssh from windows.
Is there a guide anywhere to get espeakup working? I am wondering if I can just plug in a speaker to the 3.5 jack on the pi and use that.
I'm also interested in running emacspeak if thats still practical.
I don't think Orca is for me, as the desktop support seems pretty unusable.
I don't mind tinkering to get it to work but I would like to at least have it be useable lol.
BenandGracie 1 points 2y ago
I ran Linux for about 8 years, but I returned to Windows around last Christmas. I finally realized I had to be practical. It does not matter if your computer respects your freedom, when you can't get access to the programs you need. I would like to return to Linux someday, but programs like Orca have some catching up to do.
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