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Assisting a blind college student (self.Blind)
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CloudyBeep 10 points 2y ago
Many blind college students take their own notes and study independently, so you need to work out why this student needs assistance. I don't want to tell you not to work for them, especially because jobs are so hard to come by at the moment, but doing something for them that they should be able to do for themselves is a great disservice to their future—how will they work and live independently?
carelesswhiskey 6 points 2y ago
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what the job entails, it's merely been suggested that's what I'll do (I'll know the details after the interview). It could very well be that they have not been blind for long and are therefore still adjusting to it.
CloudyBeep 3 points 2y ago
That's a possibility. I just suggest that you ask if they don't tell you.
carelesswhiskey 3 points 2y ago
Will do, thank you!
iKarma_7 2 points 2y ago
I second this. While I myself am not blind, I do have a physical disability. My parents were good at making me try before I asked, but my school was the opposite. I know they didn’t understand so I can’t be mad, but I got so used to just giving up the second I couldn’t do it. Looking back I wish I’d spoke up more, even if that wouldn’t have helped. I do remember that if I did ask to do it myself (rare) that they would stand there, and all I could think about was not wasting there time until I eventually asked for help. Help them when needed, and only when needed (but you can still help with a few things that aren’t completely necessary here and there)
80percentaccurate 7 points 2y ago
This sounds super sketch. In college this student should be the one asking for help if they need it. Not mom. I wonder who really wants this, the student, or mom? Are the hooked up with the office of students with disabilities? That’s where they should be starting.
carelesswhiskey 2 points 2y ago
The local association for aiding visually impaired people posted a job offering and I responded to the ad. I'll be meeting both of them through the association a few days from now.
80percentaccurate 8 points 2y ago
It makes me feel slightly better that it’s through an organization, but this still sounds like a parent who may be micromanaging, which is tough to get in the middle of. Regardless, emphasize independence. Helping them study can be done while still reinforcing independence. I would find out as much as possible about how the student was getting information in high school. Do they read braille? How are their listening skills? Can they use a computer? If these are things they cannot do, they have some work to do before they are ready for college.
bscross32 4 points 2y ago
Seconded, if that's the vibe you get, run away. Like if mommy and daddy are there and are trying to control the conversation, just extricate yourself from that as politely as you can.
carelesswhiskey 3 points 2y ago
I think the mum is just being a chauffeur for the day, rather than a helicopter parent. I can't really make judgements on that based off of what I know at the moment.

However, I'll make sure to get the information you've suggested. Thank you for your advice!
CloudyBeep 1 points 2y ago
The student is studying theology, and if the parents were very religious, they might have objected to the student learning nonvisual access skills on the grounds that blind people in Jesus's time were helpless and so should still be. This is something I've seen before, but it's much more likely that there's a good reason why the student needs help.
80percentaccurate 3 points 2y ago
Agreed. The major choice sent up red flags for me as well. Of course this kid could be totally independent with only some help needed for minor things, but even these few clues make me thing that’s not the case.
meeow_me 4 points 2y ago
My boyfriend is blind and one crucial part of his success is being able to quickly see what needs done. All assignments are written in each syllabus, usually in a chart format to show what dates everything is due. He used to spend 40 minutes a night just trying to figure out what was due when, because he had a syllabus for each class and had to scroll all the way to the calendar on each, and they usually aren’t very accessible. I take the syllabus/schedule for each class and put it all in his calendar so he can quickly find out what’s due and what’s coming up. It’s a little time consuming to put it all in but it’s immeasurable in helping him be an independent student. A helpful hint for you is to make each class a different color as you add it to the calendar. It just helps eliminate confusion when you have multiple things due from different classes on the same day.
carelesswhiskey 2 points 2y ago
This is very helpful, thank you! I'll make sure to do this :)
oncenightvaler 2 points 2y ago
yes, my mom helped me with this at the beginning of every semester, wrote out all the information of date, class, assignment, %, just without a regular table format.
blindchickruns 4 points 2y ago
With all the technology available today, the only thing I could think you would need to do is read from books that are not in the proper format. It is possible that a college of theology could be lacking ADA equipment due to outdated views/morals. Otherwise, the student should already have supplies needed for education from high school grants and programs.
CloudyBeep 5 points 2y ago
Accessibility legislation still applies. There is no excuse for the college not to have adequate assistive technology and support for disabled students.

The OP might be unwittingly helping the college to avoid complying with disability legislation.
blindchickruns 2 points 2y ago
Providing a person as a reader would be complying, technically. I would just question whether the school would be working on providing a format the student could use on their own.

Like, if the position is reading the text into a recorded format for the student to use, that's cool. But if it's only reading text for certain hours, that might be a big fail.
CloudyBeep 1 points 2y ago
It depends on what the student asks for. Does the student know that they are entitled to receive their textbooks in formats they can read with a screen reader or a braille display? If they've been told that this is the only option (which I doubt because the OP wasn't hired through the college), they might not think that they'd be able to challenge that.
carelesswhiskey 1 points 2y ago
You're right, in the end, this turned out to be exactly the case. The person I talked to (who posted the job ad and works in the local org for the visually imoaired) wasn't familiar with the student's level of independence and way of studying, so there was a bit of a miscommunication there.

My job, all in all, is to be their guide around campus because lecture locations tend to change fairly often so it's not easy to remember all routes, and the classes take place on two campuses. Other than that, I'll sometimes have to type out other students' notes for the lectures they miss for whatever reason, but that's pretty much it.
blindchickruns 1 points 2y ago
Oh good. Have a nice shot of whiskey on me. Make it something smooth and dangerous.
BlueZone123 3 points 2y ago
So you would attend classes with the student and provide tutoring after class.. Phylosophy and theology are discussion based courses, your notes won't help much as its not like in math, where you need to write the problem from the board and demonstrate on your notes how to solve the problem.
I've helped students studying theology before, and they do a lot of reading. Its prefered when they can find the book in an ellectronic format, and in their case the book would most often be found with the publisher.
carelesswhiskey 1 points 2y ago
In the end, I was somewhat misinformed by the ad poster about the requirements expected of me. The student is more than capable of studying on their own, I'll just have have to occasionally type out other students' notes for classes they miss, but for the most part I'll just be a guide around campus.
oncenightvaler 2 points 2y ago
As well as getting their notes written out for them you could advise them to ask the professors if it is ok to digitally record the lectures, that's what I had heard a few blind students did.

I personally had zero trouble with writing notes in class while listening, I learned to efficiently type during high school. Occasionally I had to double check spellings but that's what textbooks and Google are for.

As to helping them study everyone has their own individual studying method so not certain.
BlindAaron 2 points 2y ago
As far as first impressions, don’t try and shake the students hand until they present it. I’ve encountered that a few times with my completely blind friends.
carelesswhiskey 1 points 2y ago
I met a blind fella today, and did a dumb thing by holding out my hand as I introduced myself before I realized he couldn't see it and was holding out HIS hand for me to shake. But at least I didn't grab him, and nobody saw my stupid thing lol.
[deleted] [OP] 2 points 2y ago
My assistant at college impressemeabout aweek in. I didnt realise I was wearing unmatched shoes. She had a extra pair that day for another class and gave me her shoes. It was so nice and assisted me covering up my faux pas.

FYI, im so jealous that you get to do philosophy! If there was a half decent job or career at the end I'd of studied it.
CloudyBeep 1 points 2y ago
The first sentence of your post makes no sense.
[deleted] [OP] 2 points 2y ago
Sorry, I just woke up not long before writing.also since the new software updat my auto correct doesnt work as it should.
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