I’m curious! Unusual, outdated or completely off-the-wall equipment that blind redditors still use(self.Blind)
submitted by ladymunch
I’m curious. What equipment or technology do you still use that other blind people might consider obsolete, outdated or otherwise weird? The ones I can think of for myself are: Braille watches, which I love despite having the latest apple watch; Various incarnations of the slate and stylus; Basically if I see a slate and stylus or braille watch headed for the bin, I’ll “re-home” it for them. I don’t look for vintage items or collect in a serious way, I just love the design of older things that don’t fall apart at the drop of a hat. So who else is in my corner with me?
phistomefel_smeik5 points2y ago
I use a very old braille typewriter. It is an old model the local school doesn't use anymore. I translate some childrens books for my son with it, writing the braille on self adhesive foil. Works like a charm, despite being probably 60 years old or even older.
macadamia_owl2 points2y ago
Braille mechanical typewriters like Erica are still used regularly in schools for blind and low vision in Germany to teach Braille so idk if its so obsolete until they literally fall apart and parts are missing, often machines are combined together from parts to properly function again. There are some Braille monitors to use but always not enough compared to number of people needing to type something and not all computers are equipped with them so old school tech is still much alive.
Aida_Hwedo2 points2y ago
Analog old-school tech is AWESOME when it comes to longevity. The best sewing machines are the decades old, all metal models that weigh a TON, and they basically last forever because each part can be repaired or replaced as needed.
I wonder how many parts inside your braille machine are just standard typewriter parts you can find anywhere?
TheBlindBookLover3 points2y ago
I like the Braille slate and stylus. There is something that is just so satisfying about creating each individual Braille dot with the stylus.
Amonwilde3 points2y ago
I like this question, and I tend to like old tech in general, though I'm only getting to the point where I need actualy blind gizmos and braille in the last few years.
Can you sell me on the slate and stylus? How fast can you go with it? I'd love a portable note taker and my phone has never been socially acceptable or fast enough for quick notes.
TheBlindBookLover4 points2y ago
You can get a free slate and stylus from the NFB and they are quite affordable on websites like Amazon and Maxi-Aides. The key is consistent practice regularly. The average sighted person can write around 20-30 words per minute if I recall correctly, and it is possible for the blind to do the same.
-shacklebolt-2 points2y ago
The most dated appliance I have (aside from a slate and stylus) is my braillenote apex, which I intend to only replace when it dies.
wishiwasmegmccaffrey2 points2y ago
I use ZoomText 10.1 on my computer. I think the latest one is ZoomText is 20.something.
I also use my old Daisy-player, which reads e-books. I mostly use it to play my old CDs and CD-audiobooks though.
BenandGracie2 points2y ago
I am wearing a braille watch right now. I have a device called a Language Master on my desk. I got it in 1993 when I was 5. It is a dictionary, and it has some other grammar functions. I tryed to get an updated one last year, but they stopped making them.
I was taught the slate and stylus as a kid, but I thought it was slow and I used a brailler instead. I have been trying to get back in to the slate, but I need to practice more. Old blind tech is cool.
hopesthoughts1 points2y ago
I had one of those when I was a kid. It seemed to have died for some reason. I remember us trying to find something like it and not being able to find a good replacement.
Drunken_Idaho1 points2y ago
Big ups for good old language master. I took mine into my office and had it in my desk drawer for a while. It broke last year after going strong since the mid 90s. One day the internet went down in the office and we all played hangman on there lol. I really miss it and wish I could find another one for my next 30 years.
BenandGracie1 points2y ago
The only bad thing is, it doesn't have some newer words, so I have to go to the internet to look up some words.
hopesthoughts1 points2y ago
Well, I still use RSS,does that count? OK OK RSS seems to be on an upswing right now, so maybe it isn't as outdated as I think.
ladymunch [OP]1 points2y ago
RSS was cool when I used pc's but I haven't used it in years! I'm exclusively mobile stuff now,, apart from when I absolutely can't get around using one. I'm all about what works for each of us!
hopesthoughts1 points2y ago
It's still cool to me. Have you tried RSS on Mobile?
ladymunch [OP]1 points2y ago
no I haven't, but I'll add it to the list of things to try out. thanks.
jage91 points2y ago
Some customers that call in to my company still use a Braille 'n Speak from time to time. That thing was so far ahead of its time.
I have one of the good Dymo braille labelers from the 90s with metal construction. The new ones are cheap crap.
oncenightvaler1 points2y ago
So I have my Perkins Brailler in perfect working order and it's older than I am. I use it to jot down notes, or sometimes when I am journalling and venting out my feelings.
macadamia_owl1 points2y ago
My oldest tech is 15 year old still working electronic magnifier Quicklook Zoom but battery is holding 1 hour or so can't replace it company not existing anymore :/ LCD bit retention on edges. Braille mechanical typewriter, 20 year old mini stereo radio with tape recorder same old Olympus dictaphone still working. Mine laptop is quite obsolete 10 years old but working as stationary.
wishiwasmegmccaffrey1 points2y ago
What’s a slate and stylus?
CloudyBeep3 points2y ago
A device that allows you to write braille by punching each dot into paper.
wishiwasmegmccaffrey2 points2y ago
Ouch... glad I’ve never been forced to do that!
macadamia_owl2 points2y ago
The hard part is you have to write letter/symbol mirrored way when using slate and stylus
modulus1 points2y ago
The Nokia N70 with the Talks screen reader. If you're just using the phone for its nominal function (calls and SMS) it's perfectly adequate, though I wonder if it will keep working for much longer. The battery also lasts for days. Yes, days.
I used a slate and stylus for civil service exams where you get 15 minutes to prepare an oral presentation. The only thing I could take with me was a talking clock, the syllabus in braille, and the slate. That said, I absolutely hate it. It's slow and annoying.
DrillInstructorJan2 points2y ago
I had Nokia Talks for ages!
Nokia buddies for life and everything.
macadamia_owl2 points2y ago
Oh I miss so much typing with physical T9 keyboard it was so effective, fast, private and intuitive! I hate on screen touch keyboards tried all of them on iOS and Android and third party and voice typing doesn't match traditional typing. Bought Bluetooth keyboard few times but they break quite fast: battery problems, fast discharging so I have to carry powerbank, bulky and big and another thing to be charged everyday. Ah phones those days with 2 weeks battery life on single charge and nowadays?
I use slate and stylus in local schools on presentations about disablities to show kids how Braille users used to write they're so fascinated
modulus1 points2y ago
Entirely agree. Lots of blind people seem to really like iOS, but to me it's a huge step back in terms of speed and efficiency. Exploring the screen until the finger hits right on the icon or whatever is so annoying.
jage91 points2y ago
If it's using the 3G towers which I believe it is, those are going to start being phased out in 2021 and beyond. Loved my N82.
retrolental_morose1 points2y ago
I still have a Book Courier ebook player somewhere. runs on a set of AA batteries and uses a hardware (Doubletalk) speech synthesizer.
RJHand1 points2y ago
I have a few talking clocks lying around, a talking watch or 2 as well as a braille one as well, though I never use any of it, its just chillin out. I also still have a purkinz brailler, back from high school, used it for math work mostly, but I don't use that either as most work now days is computer driven.
DrillInstructorJan-8 points2y ago
Braille is for beardy people who were born blind to make the rest of us feel small.
I have an ancient mp3 dictaphone held together with duct tape and hope.
-shacklebolt-10 points2y ago
> Braille is for beardy people who were born blind to make the rest of us feel small.
Not born blind, and definitely hope I don't have a beard as a woman, and I learned braille in my late teens and early 20s.
You don't have to, but I really hate the narrative that it's difficult or impossible for adults to learn braille.
DrillInstructorJan0 points2y ago
I'm a guitarist. I have huge guitar callouses on my fingertips. I'm stuffed. Also yes it is notoriously difficult, it is very slow, and the only literature that's actually available is abridged mills and boon romance novels for 60 year olds. OK I'm exaggerating for effect but it's not very encouraging.
-shacklebolt-2 points2y ago
Having huge callouses on your fingertips makes you something of a minority among potential braille learners, lol.
It's "notoriously difficult" in part because there's a lack of qualified instructors and funding, and it's cheaper and easier for school districts and vocational rehab programs to set you up with audio or magnification-only solutions than it is to teach you braille and provide a braille-capable device. Plenty of potential braille readers are discouraged from ever learning simply because it's cheaper to tell them they don't really need braille or can't learn it anyways.
In the age of ebooks, most books are readable with braille if you own a braille display. I don't carry around giant paper braille books and don't know anyone who does.
Drunken_Idaho3 points2y ago
Wtf no it isn't. Literacy is important. Ever seen the stats on braille readers vs. non braille readers and employment? I think its like 80or 90 percent of employed blind people at least know braille.
DrillInstructorJan1 points2y ago
I make more than the national average wage.
I have no idea what I would even get access to in my work even if I did know braille. In theory I suppose I could learn braille, then learn the music version of it, then be able to read music, but nobody I ever work for would have any way of providing braille music. And it's not like I can play guitar while reading braille music, unless it's possible to learn to read it with your nose, or something.
What I really don't get is what on earth blind people did before computers. That's what really bakes my noodle.
macadamia_owl2 points2y ago
Sorry for off topic I disagree I wasn't born blind I'm not fully blind either but it would made my life so much easier if I would have possibly to learn Braille basics before I had started studying. Beforehead blind person warned me without Braille and Braille monitor you highly probability wont make it sadly, she was working there. Maybe with Braille I would been able to end my studies successfully. I had electronic magnifier, Zoomtext, dictaphone but I was using high magnification I was too slowwas behind others. My eyesight went worse due to much screen time and intense reading my eyes were constantly overworked. Assistance for notes was available 2 hours a week, pdfs making or scans, using dictaphone often unavailable due to copyright rights. Only computer typed notes, handwritten notes or Braille notes were allowed by some professors, some even were afraid of my tablet - Bluetooth keyboard and banned me from using it (that was other school in Germany 3 years ago) I had to type in Braille machine like the others. But Braille overall can reduce eye strain and stress level - if eyes can't do it anymore you can still read.
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