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OrCam? (self.Blind)
submitted by peggy2033
A family member of mine sent this link to my dad and it kind of made me wonder.

https://www.orcam.com/en/myeye2/

My initial thought was I don’t need this since I use Seeing AI on my phone to capture real time text and then the screenshot mode to capture unreadable screenshots. And then with windows I use NVDA which works out 90% of the time. Would something like this be in anyway helpful?
As a quick little edit I thought I would add one more question to this. Has anyone used any devices similar to this, if so what were your experiences like?
Nighthawk321 3 points 2y ago
I've bought, used, and returned the Orcam a little over a year ago. Not worth it at all: slow, inaccurate, and horrible battery life.
macadamia_owl 2 points 2y ago
Yes I have OrCam MyEye2 since June this year and EnvisionGlasses for around 3 weeks. Im veryvtech savvy had iphone for 5 years, have ipad air at home, wibdows laptop with NVDA before used Zoomtext, have used numerous Android tablets and phones since version 4 my daily driver is now a mid range Nokia with full updates now Android 11 fully accessible.
I used tons of accessibility apps with "the same" functionality often free.

My vision changes dynamically from 20/1000 (0,02 or 2% is my max) to light perception but for months I can't recognize any size of text very frequently no matter what glasses and what size/color settings I choose.

I requested demo at home first and basic functions demonstration was included.
So why I bought used Orcam?

- Often my fav apps after few months/years just went gone/missing, weren't available to download both on IOS and Android. Or developer stopped fixing them, lost interest, sold to someone, deleted his accounts and his apps. On Android when I still had app instilled I could extract APK but after a while there were compatibility issues with new system versions after 4-5 major updates. Finding good replacement isn't easz.

- my wrist and hand can rest. Im walking with cane daily for years and require movements strain muscules , add to this hours of typing on laptop (work and school) and smartphone use. Orcam can be used with voice commands or touch gestures, holding heavy phone (>150g in ine hand in awakard positions) phone vertically or hirizontaly atvtext our product level at shopping was tiresomeiften due to lack of optical image stabilisation images were too blurry and OCR wasn't able to read out text. OrCam or similar is under 100g you have free hands for touching or using cane less muscule strain.

- works fully offline: auto language switch, face color money detection, product barcode recognition

- useful intelligent cues: text is upside down, light is to low - turns flashlight on if needed, tells if any text is skipped if anything is cut off and from which side. How to move your head to correct it and its very accurate.

- point to read and finger follow (kind of VoiceOver finger following) sometimes I want only little portion of text not what all cqmera seeing. I can scan with finger over the package or page and orcam will read out whats

- for now PRO only $1 voice navigation in scanned text

- less privacy issues - in many places in europe using phone is forbidden you may be accused for taking photos and videos without written permission of others and be fined and police will be called. Happened to me sometimes people thought I was taking photos of them or their kids but I was using OCR app to read prices that were at distance, explaining didn't helped police was called but none was punished. Just some overreactive persons saw that im using my phone at the store and "possibly taking photos" without permission multiple times. It's forbidden in stores and public places in Europe, recording soundvtoo

But yes battery is not superb its easy to charge with any powerbank trough as any smartphone. The other disadvantage is you can't export scanned text due to copyright reasons in eu so worldwide its banned :( (… but EnvisionGlasses can export scanned text for now hope it stays so) If you want to save a lot buy it from someone I paid this way 1/4th of original price for new device and contacted company they switched battery for new one because it was still under warranty so I got like a new fully working for much less.
Laser_Lens_4 2 points 2y ago
The company is also totally full of itself. Most arrogant presenter I’ve ever seen.
RatorLP 1 points 2y ago
he looks like a fake Linus Sebastian
siriuslylupin6 1 points 2y ago
I think it’s interesting but so many other things on the phone can do the same things. I don’t need it.
TwoSunsRise 1 points 2y ago
Someone in my family got orcam and loves it. It took a a bit of learning but the customer service assistance is really great. The person in question can see light and shapes but that's it. This device allows them to actually pick up a book and read it. They read regular novels, magazines, newpapers, and text books with relative ease. They've tried apps like tap tap see on thier phone and they just don't work the same. They can't see enough to center the page. To this person, being able to read almost anything was very important to him. Sites like audible are great but there's no other way to read other media such as magazines or text books or other less common books that may not be translated to an audio book. It's not for everyone and I wouldn't recommend it to an older person. You have to be somewhat tech savvy to use it and have good dexterity.

Edit: they purchased the orcam my eye pro. If you have questions, just let me know!
CloudyBeep 1 points 2y ago
Orcam is most useful for people with low vision. If you're blind or a competent technology user, you may get something out of it, but you're not the target demographic. Also give some thought to the cost.
siriuslylupin6 2 points 2y ago
Makes sense I have seen one and I am like I can use much better and other things. Totally blind and very good at tech.
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