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Is Apple's "Designed For Accessibility" page accessible? (self.Blind)
submitted by dskoziol
Apple's front page right now has Accessibility front-and-center, which is awesome! It links to their "Designed For Accessibility" page. I am not blind, but I'm a frontend developer who is trying to get better at making my websites more accessible. I tried using the ChromeVox Chrome extension on the page to experience it as someone who is using a screenreader does, but when I tab through, the screenreader doesn't seem very informative. For example, it will read out "section section: button", skipping over all the written text that describes what is in the section.
Could someone in this community help confirm for me whether or not this page has "good" accessibility for blind users? I'm curious!
Here is a link to the page: $1
Thank you!
Could someone in this community help confirm for me whether or not this page has "good" accessibility for blind users? I'm curious!
Here is a link to the page: $1
Thank you!
guitarandbooks 3 points 2y ago
I don't use ChromeVox but perhaps try with NVDA, the awesome free screen reader for Windows. Also, tabbing through a page is going to skip blocks of text etc. Try to explore the page using the up and down arrows to get a feel for the entire page.
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It's working fine for me with Google Chrome with both Jaws and NVDA. text, headings, links etc all seem fine.
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It's working fine for me with Google Chrome with both Jaws and NVDA. text, headings, links etc all seem fine.
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dskoziol [OP] 1 points 2y ago
Thanks!
Prefect316 2 points 2y ago
I haven't used it for about 2 years now, but in my limited experience Chromevox is just awful for this sort of thing. So this may be a representation of Chromevox's pitfalls and not Apple.
nkdeck07 2 points 2y ago
A lot of the free text to speech web extensions aren't great. If you are on a Mac try using Voice Over, it's not quite as good as NVDA or Jaws but it gets a lot closer to the screen readers that people are using daily (not blind, just do a lot of this testing work myself). Google is sadly pretty behind the curve on this stuff (lighthouse doesn't catch a lot of the things that some of the more established testing firms do). Using VO it's reading out informative information for navigating.
That page does seem to be missing a skip link which isn't good.
That page does seem to be missing a skip link which isn't good.
IronDominion 2 points 2y ago
Yep. And many many people use VO as their daily driver screen reader, so it is a good starting point
dskoziol [OP] 1 points 2y ago
Thank you!
l-fc -3 points 2y ago
You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about - why does the page need a skip content link? Lighthouse uses axe-core which is provided by a third party, not google.
nkdeck07 1 points 2y ago
It's a part of WCAG 2.0 AA which is considered a standard best practice. And Lighthouse used a pared down version of the Axe-core, you can actually do a side by side comparison of the two plugins and they catch different items with Lighthouse generally catching less (granted the last time I did a direct head to head on them was about a year ago)
l-fc 0 points 2y ago
Wrong - it’s not part of WCAG AA, the recommendation is to provide a way to bypass repeated blocks, which can implemented using one of many techniques, including a main landmark which this page contains.
Superfreq2 3 points 2y ago
Which you could have just said in the first place in a non assholish way instead of making a general statement, then paring it down after the fact to still sound as if you were right all along.
siriuslylupin6 1 points 2y ago
Yes it is accessible I use apple’s screen reder voice over in all cases iphone, mac, imac, macbook air, and ipad. Their site is fine.
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