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My Blind and VI friends. What are the things you wouldnt want a person to do/say on a date with you? (self.Blind)
submitted by LaurenRossy1
Riyeko 12 points 2y ago
My best friend is blind and he always tells me that sometimes his dates always feel like they need to take care of him.

He always says, i can take care of my damn self.
LaurenRossy1 [OP] 1 points 2y ago
He is totally right. Some people act like a mom
guitarandbooks 8 points 2y ago
Speaking from a guy's perspective here, a girl acting like your mom is not sexy. Also, if a waiter, bar tender, lift driver, or anyone else asks the blind person a question, please do not answer for them! that sort of thing drives me nuts. I'm blind;not mentally incompetent.

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I'll keep this SFW, but, visual signals don't work for a blind person. If you may want to sleep with a blind guy, it's helpful to give us verbal and tactile signals. If we don't get those, we may not realize you're interested in that and it is a handy thing to know.
Born-1995 7 points 2y ago
Wouldn’t want to be told “You Drive”.
crazyband111 6 points 2y ago
“What’s it like?” Fair question, but I can’t answer it. I’ve been this way all my life I don’t know what it’s like having all my vision.
YourLocalMosquito 5 points 2y ago
If you’d like some insight into how capable blind and VI people can be - and the obstacles/ignorance they face daily have a watch of Planes Trains and Canes on YouTube. It’s a blind blogger navigating her way around and she’s really good at telling it how it is.
armyofspartans 2 points 2y ago
Thank you sir
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K-R-Rose 4 points 2y ago
For us to go on a full date and by the end of it the person decides they don’t want to be with me because I’m VI even though I tell them up front. Waste of my time
AchooCashew 4 points 2y ago
The most basic courtesy I really want, at minimum (low bar here) is when I tell people not to point/gesture and vaguely say ‘this way, over there, etc.’ or suddenly cut in front of me as we’re walking..... for them to not do those things.
grinchnight14 2 points 2y ago
When people say over there it makes me so mad. Just say which direction.
AchooCashew 1 points 2y ago
Ugh, yes. I feel like a total dimwit having to go 'uh, where, *exactly*?' or else an asshole saying 'can you please use directional language like left/right and so on'.
grinchnight14 2 points 2y ago
I just ask ask "OK, but what direction? Right, left, in front of me?"
4humans 4 points 2y ago
Anything about being vi. Can we just get to know each other first before discussing disabilities?
MostlyBlindGamer 7 points 2y ago
I'd argue that's fair game, but it shouldn't be the only subject of conversation.

Say the person you're on a date with comes from s different cultural or ethnic background - I wouldn't say discussing that is inappropriate, but it's certainly not their whole identity or the only thing that you'd want to talk about.
4humans 5 points 2y ago
I’m not sure that’s a fair comparison. I wouldn’t ask about their mental health, diabetes, adhd or how someone who uses a wheel chair manages independently. I’d be more curious about their personality, Interests and hobbies.
niamhweking 3 points 2y ago
If the date brought up that they were diabetic, had autism etc I might converse with them about it because I might be able to find some thing in common perhaps. It's not the same as asking a wheelchair user how they manage to be independent or asking someone "why" they are in a wheelchair etc. I think it all depends on how or why conversation is brought up. I could comment on someone's cool cane if it were decorated for example but I wouldn't interview them about their eye health, condition, independence etc.
4humans 2 points 2y ago
Oh for sure if the conversation went there. I just pictured the same old how do you do this and that. But if we were discussing hobbies and they were curious about the adaptations required that’s fine.
MostlyBlindGamer 1 points 2y ago
Like I said, it shouldn't be be the only thing you talk about, but isn't it one of many parts of who you are? I'll never lead with that, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect the other person to stay quiet when I use my phone to magnify a restaurant menu.

On one of my first dates with my partner I asked "would you mind sitting to my right?" Later I explained I like to sit at the leftmost corner of tables so I can see people on my right, because I can't see anything from my left eye. That's not who I am as a person, but it's one of my, shall we call them, quirks.

I also don't want to spend the whole night talking about my job, but it's also relevant.

I guess what I'm getting at is this shouldn't be a taboo, but it shouldn't be the center of attention either.
niamhweking 5 points 2y ago
I wonder sometimes (and this is just being a parent of VI person) that she often presumes things are said or people are doing things because she is VI but these things are said and done to others who are not VI. Like if I were at a restaurant or cafe with anyone who was excusing themselves to the loo I might say "do you know where they are" it's to save the person wandering or going the wrong way, nothing to do with their vision. I'd also forgive people on a date, they're nervous, you don't know each other and they could babble on about VI until another subject is raised to latch on to!
macadamia_owl 3 points 2y ago
Asking really stupid "funny" questions like:
"How do you know when to stop wiping after using toilet?" "How do you know when you get menstrual bleeding?" "When you're taking weed or -insert other any illegal substance here- does your sight comes back? You should try it it will cure your diseases!" "How do you walk with a cane when you're drunk?" "Are blind better at bed?" "The worse you see the better you're at bed?"

Offering stupid assistance and overall:
Ignoring my proper short assistance instructions i explained before i person really want to help me: don't pull me and lead me like a dog on a leash especially when I want to use my cane and i refused your help.
Please don't play with smartphone when i talk with you and pretend you're not doing it.
Don't go away in the middle of conversation quietly without telling me so I won't be telling the story further to nobody tell me you're leaving especially when it's busy place.
Don't take photos of me without telling me for permission.

"Do you need my assistance using the toilet I'm happy to help you're blind I'll turn away?"
Asked by informatics student on 3rd meeting, newer meet then after that. And a warning.

It cane out he was a stalker: found out my address, followed me silently without telling, got my phone number and called even at night 50 times a day I asked him to stop i blocked him moved out. He followed my blind friends found out my new address sensed "presents" and letters that he loves me at first sight that he can't live without me.
Luckily COVID came so he cannot travel so far anymore there are restrictions i even thought about going to police but how i would describe how he looks like? He lied constantly: where he lived, how many years he has, he even not told me about his hobbies and what he liked. I didn't told him about myself much at all and my social media is for close friends and family only.
grinchnight14 2 points 2y ago
Not really bring up the blindness through the whole date. Like we can talk about it if you've got questions, but if that's all you wanna ask about, I probably wouldn't want a second date.
chovihanni-VIP 2 points 2y ago
My boyfriend is great but sometimes when we go out he has a bad habit of moving things in my area I've arranged so I know where they are at. After one night of him moving things, bullshitting me about asking the waiter for something(blind not deaf) and for getting I couldn't see and walked me into a sign, is left my cane this night so I could feel a bit normal. He volunteered to go blind folded for a day to understand and it helped him understand frustrations when people simply try to "help". They are helping themselves not you
Keiracat1337 2 points 2y ago
This might sound dumb but one of the things that helps me feel sane... (This might also be good for you to try? It worked on me. I know it's not really 'avoid this' advice, so that might get me into trouble.)

My fiance and family sometimes buy me tiny things. Like, things you can get for a dollar. And sometimes they make sounds, sometimes they can be moved. I get to feel it and figure out what it is. We make a game out of it. I only get so many guesses and hints. I'm to the point of almost craving the next gift. I don't ask for any, that would ruin the magic of it. But it's almost like a small win for me each time. One of the things I got we're animal shaped magnets. They were not cartoon animals in shape, but real images. They were just big enough for me to feel it and guess. Another time I got a unicorn thing and it makes sounds. It neighs and sometimes has magic sounds. I have that attached to my cane loop.

Another is a duck key chain light. I obviously can't really use the light, but it quacks when I hit the button. I love ducks so much. When I'm sad sometimes I walk around the house just making it quack.

My dad also bought some uno cards that had Braille. No clue how he managed that, sadly he won't tell me. Mom got me a BUNCH of audiobooks.


Touch is super important to people who can't see. In any degree of sight loss. (It is a spectrum so don't be surprised if your date that night can see color or stuff.) As fun as touching those cute things can be, there are always going to be bad things to touch. If you notice a table at a place is dirty or sticky, warn them. Tell them not to sit or something. Don't fix it for them unless they ask, or if you ask. But warnings are so helpful. It gives us an alert but also allows us to do what we want in that situation. Not just have it done for us.

Touch is also scary for us sometimes. I mean, we could accidentally be touching broken glass and get hurt. But we don't know unless something else gives the fact it's glass away. If you see them hesitate about touching something, that's a good part of why. Even more so in an unfamiliar place. Don't be afraid to ask what they need from you. And phrasing it like that can be super helpful. Not just "here let me do it." But "What can I do for you." They get the freedom to pick.
macadamia_owl 3 points 2y ago
Unexpected touching, when I ask someone for assistance it doesn't mean this person is allowed to touch me anywhere he likes, pet me like a dog on a head. Some doesn't understand idea of personal space still existing after I ask for guiding me with their arm they quickly want more physical contact even if I say no i don't like it.

Oh i have dolphin keyring with light, when you press the dorsal fin it squeaks like a dolphin and lights up on the front, small "useless" but enjoyable gift from my parents i love dolphins.
futurephysician 2 points 2y ago
“What’s wrong with your eye, it looks funny”
“How does bring blind affect you in bed”
Don’t be daft.
siriuslylupin6 1 points 2y ago
Someone who wants to take care of me is a no.

Open minded to what a blind person is and also maybe open mindedness to just how capable we can be.
TheBlindCreative 1 points 2y ago
Don’t use guiding me as an excuse to hold my hand.
grinchnight14 1 points 2y ago
If you wanna hold my hand, just ask, I'll just do that.
Alaisha 1 points 2y ago
Lol and don't say said person doesn't look or act blind. GRR.
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