I’m sorry you’re going through such a tough time. This may be little comfort, but a lot of people your age struggle, whether blind or sighted. I was also born blind and do sometimes get frustrated but for the most part life is good. I did have a harder time when I was younger though, I’m in my 30s now. It might be a good idea to reach out to local blindness organizations that might be able to give individualized support. No matter what you decide to do, take care and I hope things get better soon
[deleted] [OP]3 points2y ago
I have done that. Thanks for your advice
DariusA926 points2y ago
Sure it does. I'm totally blind, and like it's not enough, in recent years I have started to lose my hearing too.
My schooling wasn't too bad. I went to a school for the blind and had a fair number of friends, but college sucked bigtime. I now work at a shitty 9 to 5 job with a low salary.
But at the end of the day, it's the hand we are dealt with, so there's no other choice than to endure.
If you really want to have a job unfortunately college is almost a must. And even then it's not a guarantee that you can find a job. If you are living in a first-world country and get benefits from the government then you are more free to do what you want, if not, not many choices are there, I'm afraid.
[deleted] [OP]1 points2y ago
Yeah you have a point
savagewolf576 points2y ago
This really hit home gor me!! I have had ALOT of the same experiences being visually impared. As far as employment idk if you are familiar with the Ability One program? They help employ the blind and visually impared.
[deleted] [OP]2 points2y ago
I'm in UK
WeakWoodpecker5 points2y ago
Hi,
Despite having been visually impaired my entire life, despite being able to see light and shadow, absolutely.
During my teen ages, until 15, everything was OK for the most part.
As I got older, shit started to hit me, and I started to realise things. More and more limitations, the acceptance of how some things will never be possible, despite how many visually impaired claim there's no limitations, I'll believe that when we get the first blind pilot or first blind driver with a driving license... I have also not seen a cane until 10, and when they tried forcing mobility on me, that had the reverse effect. Know when you're not ready for something but they shove it down you? Yeah that. I'm also UK. Above 18 there isn't anywhere near that much support. I can't get mobility through my county, (neither of the instructors get on with me at all) so my only hope right now might just be RNC. And yes, I have been mainstream primary through college. Don't regret it. Happy having been raised as if I was sighted, as well. Honestly I have more skills than the average. I got to use drills, saws, I've done wheel replacements, plug replacements, done wood work... I can clean, I can cook, I'm fully independent inside, I can drive, yes, drive a stick shift for you Americans, :) I can get around anywhere as long as no crowd. I'm also familiar with all 4 majour operating systems, them being iOS, macOS, android, windows. Done all sorts of voluntary, ranging from accessibility to reptiles... I got GCSE's, got my math and English, despite not being native. I've honestly done well for myself. But when I compare sighted counter parts to myself at 21, I can't help but to feel behind. I don't feel there is a purpose to me as a person. You do shit twice as hard as a sighted, only to potentially accomplish half of what they did.
As far as getting jobs, if you're in full time education, getting a park time job plus studies gives you less time and less money, so that's not worth doing. I'd much rather volunteer at that point, get nothing for it, but get more money out of the current benefit system I'm on currently.
Not had friends here either, but I wrote that down to being a rather unconventional and not a native Brit creature. Then again, I'm a lonely introvert, so if I said that that bothered me, I'd be lying.
I was never officially diagnosed, and despite having no learning disabilities, I do feel as if I probably have a handful of undiagnosed mental difficulties. So my thought process could be due to some of that.
I also traveled around a lot when younger, grew up driving everywhere, hate crowds, so to then rely on public transport, potentially having to live in cities for better accessibility, and not being able to freely move around, hurts. My ideal place is out in the country, somewhere hidden in the woods, or near water sources.
Feel like a disappointment towards family as well. Especially compared to my sister.
If I had sight, particularly during the pandemic, I could literally throw myself on mum's insurance, and as long as I put fuel in the thing, I know for a fact she wouldn't give 2 fucks. I could get a job, could explore places, gain driving experience seeing as there's less traffic on the roads... Instead, I'm just floating about, writing this post.
I absolutely hate asking for help. The inability to read a random letter or paper without scanning it or asking someone, also hurts. Particularly with trust issues on top of that, and you not wanting people to see what you might be up to.
I also never found home, don't want kids or marriage, but would like someone also insures loneliness for the foreseeable future. Before anyone says that's not the case, I'm grossed out by any form of body fluids, mainly exchanging cups/bottles, kisses, or what people refer to as naughty fun, leaving me to only be a QPR candidate.
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Everything other than the education stuff hit home hard, if you need someone feel free to slide in the DM's.
bradley221 points2y ago
You really have had a lot more experiences than the average UK blind person and that sucks.
I live with my grandparents and while my nan did her best, I was never taught how to do chores, I didn’t go out much wheen I was young and wasn’t taught to cook.
I can do some of that now due to me not giving up.
As for RNC, from what I know; their bar is hugely in debt and when I went there the massage guy was teaching IT and was shit at it, I couldn’t go on my music tech course cause there wasn’t enough people but they only let me know that when I was there and I was bullied.
Now, I would definitely stand up for myself but it wasn’t that easy back then.
Two good teachers were Kerry Hunter and Kerry Pickering.
I think you can only go there for 6 months now but I’m unsure of that.
My advice would be checking out, but if you feel like it’s not for you Sammy get out.
WeakWoodpecker3 points2y ago
I don't really know where else to turn to for mobility at this point, they want to pull the plug on my EHCP next year apparently, de to me already having a level 3. I would assume 6 months might be enough for what I need it for, but I don't really know. The problem? If I went and I had to share apartments with strangers and things, I think that would finish me mentally. It would be too exhausting, and I couldn't put up with strangers with different hygiene standards and things. A lot of what I got and where I am are due to self teaching. I never really had assistive training, or rather, I rage quit them trying to preach me how to touch type, which finger to put on which key, I'll continue using my thumb for n, and use right shift with my index thank you very much. I think I'm around 70 or 80 words per minute as is. I can do 50 60 on phone, that's completely self taught as well BTW. I figured out as much as I could and where I could, but there's only so much before you get tired of it. That's sort of where I am. Same with car stuff, a lot of it is trial and error. Hand break and foot break. :) House stuff, all that came naturally. I won't be able to see where is dust and dirt, naturally, but I know how to use the equipment. The only thing I struggle with is ironing. Though it also helps that I took food for GCSE, I kind of had to do it. I want to move out for educational reasons to gain more independence and freedom, but I can't do that without mobility. :( I don't know how good or bad other places in the UK are, but my county is, or once was, the second worst counties to be in for educational purposes, and trust me when I say this, I can feel it. Considering all that, I really have come out of it OK, and I still, despite mobility struggles, have it better than many others out there, and that's something I should never forget.
bradley221 points2y ago
Why did you rage quit when they tried to teach you to touch type?
It's a very useful skill :)
I'm not sure about RNC, you'd have to phone them and ask. You'd probably be put in a hall with others, unless you can prove you can live alone.
Honestly I just mostly volunteer when I can, I can't be bothered to go to get a job and all that and just be turned down.
As for you moving out, if you can do it; go for it.
I live in London and our housing prices are terrible.
RnC will teach you mobility, or at least they did for me, and the teacher is very good, if hse's not quit. If i were you, I'd call them and ask your questions.
WeakWoodpecker1 points2y ago
I'm in the midlands. Prices are relatively all right here, but it's just not the type of place where I want to be. For some reason, instructors who try to teach you how to type feel like they know how your fingers bend, what finger reaches what key, despite there being different types of hands, and me not giving in what was comfortable didn't please them, so they ended up putting me on humanware braille devices instead. Self taught touch typing 5 years later, and I type faster than most sighted. :) I got better off this way, trust me. I'm also one of those who doesn't need, or want number pads, even if I have to write nothing but numbers. I can use the number roe as a home roe. Pretty neat.
Revenant6244 points2y ago
I think a lot of us have felt that way one time or another, don’t let your visual impairment define you. You might have to work a lot harder to reach a goal, but you can still reach it. I know it sucks, but don’t give up.
[deleted] [OP]3 points2y ago
I am not giving up but I have to do so much more for a shitty job compared to everyone else
AchooCashew2 points2y ago
It’s so true that we have to work harder and be better to break even with people around us. Even with assistive technology and disability accommodations, it’s a massive task.
Revenant6242 points2y ago
Maybe not, learn how to use a screen reader, etc. If you get extremely good at it and you can get a job helping other blind people use the software or other things like that to help blind people. Don’t limit yourself.
intellectualnerd853 points2y ago
I didn’t handle my condition well. Did drugs and drank too much. Now I’m reenrolled in college and learning how to do things without sight. We have to fight harder than others and use our minds more than others. Education is part of us avoiding poverty. Want rich life tackle living skills and education. We are adaptive and strong. You’ve got this if you apply yourself
NotUnique2342 points2y ago
Don’t let your eyesight define you. It’s easier said than done I know! I’ve been VI since birth and struggled with this when I was 18 for a few years (now I’m 25).
Everyone your age right now is struggling for the same reasons- being confused, under qualified and the general feeling of being out of their depth.
Focus on what you CAN do. Forget about your eyesight- how has your eyesight HELPED you in life- you’re better at problem solving, more compassionate, perhaps more creative?
For jobs and college, you don’t have to disclose your Visual impairment-and I’ve found that most people are more than willing to help you out- provided you have the patience to explain what you can or can’t see
Stay positive as much as you can- life sucks sometimes but it’s how we deal with the setbacks that make us who we are.
You’re more than just a visually impaired person.
I got distracted during this several times so I apologise if it doesn’t make sense or if I repeated myself...
[deleted] [OP]2 points2y ago
Thanks for your advice. I know life is hard but I am prepared to work hard
NotUnique2341 points2y ago
Yeah- i went to university and stuff and I’m still looking for a job- it’s disheartening but I’m trying to stay positive about it- lots of people are struggling to find a job at the minute..
_Night_Wing2 points2y ago
You aren't going to find work while blind and unskilled. You must acquire an employable skill, school experiences be damned. This may sound harsh but you aren't going to get anywhere wallowing in self pity. Find something you are passionate about and enjoy doing.
CosmicBunny972 points2y ago
Maybe this is weird, but honestly no. Last year, my vision got worse but I’ve made more friends and socialised more than I have in the past (I’m in Australia so our pandemic situation is very different). I’ve never been able to drive due to being low vision all my life. The only worry I have is getting work. There’s some frustrations, like not being able to shop online or offline independently, but I’d say being blind (legally or otherwise) hasn’t ruined my life.
[deleted] [OP]1 points2y ago
Yeah I read that Australia is not very disabled friendly
CosmicBunny973 points2y ago
It’s pretty good here honestly, I don’t know where you got that info from. We could definitely improve, yes, but I’d say it’s pretty good.
Terry_Pie2 points2y ago
As with u/CosmicBunny97's response, not sure where you got that idea from.
I don't think Australia is any more or less disability friendly than your average developed country. In many ways we're much better, particularly for people who're blind/vision impaired given the supports we receive.
Amonwilde1 points2y ago
I'm sorry. Being VI is legitimately really tough, even if everything else is going for you, which for most people it isn't. If you have access to a desktop or laptop computer, I reocommend getting really good at NVDA or some other screen reader, and, if you haven't already, look into skills like braille. Work on the basics and in a few months or a year or two maybe you can pick up work or put your toe back in the water with school. I know it's really hard. In many ways I have a charmed life with a lot of support, a job that gives me finances to try things and buy devices and stuff, but I still struggle all the time and have really bad days. Message if you need any info on anything (I'm in the US) or for commiseration.
swissy_queen1 points2y ago
The only thing I ever was not OK with was that I was not really acknowledged among my peers in school but otherwise, I don’t give a shit ..
I graduated at the top of my class in college, have a great job, amazing apartment and an amazing marriage so I have nothing that I could complain about ..
22-year-old swiss female
[deleted] [OP]2 points2y ago
Wow that's great
Emms2461 points2y ago
It's most certainly difficult to stay motivated when someone so prominent as eyesight is out of your control. I feel helpless constantly and frustrated with myself when I can't do something people with normal sight can. I'm still young so idk if I can be any help, but just know there's thousands of us in the same boat and it's ok to feel a little down as long as you can get back up on your own 2 feet. What always motivates me is that because I didn't know I was visually impaired for a while into my childhood I never let myself believe there was something I couldn't do so I keep that in mind when I face obstacles. Also I've always kinda wondered, what kind of adjustments are given to university students with visual impairments? If anyone could direct me where to look or tell me what to expect that would be cool.
TheSecretIsMarmite1 points2y ago
As you are in the UK have you considered applying for apprenticeships? Local authorities offer them and LAs are in a good position to ensure you get proper support, access to accessibility software, reasonable accommodations can be made etc and can support an application to Access to Work too. It would help you gain skills and earn a wage too.
[deleted] [OP]1 points2y ago
Yeah I have
Collierr1 points2y ago
For me the biggest challenge was not being able to drive. The fact that it’s so engrained in modern society is the worst thing about it. There are alternative methods like busses, Uber, etc and I’m hoping Tesla’s autopilot gets fully autonomous but until then we wait. For jobs depending on where you live there may be a disability services available that can help you get a job.
TheBlindCreative1 points2y ago
I understand where you are coming from. You mentioned that you experienced school difficulties even with accommodations. Have you ever tried to see if you meet the criteria for any other disabilities that could impact learning? Undiagnosed disabilities can easily cause challenges that some could pass off as blindness related issues.
[deleted] [OP]1 points2y ago
Yeah I did
blind_cowboy1 points2y ago
Nope. I’m just blind. I’m not disabled. I can do anything anyone else can do except drive on a public road legally, and if someone gives me their keys I’ll give that a shot. In fact I once did. I decided since the speed limit signs weren’t accessible they didn’t apply to me. It scared the shit out of the guy trying to give me directions going 110 down a 2 lane highway at 3:00 AM in the morning. I was young and dumb at the time, and I really wouldn’t recommend this.
The point is that the only person limiting you is you. You may have to work harder to get somewhere in life than some other people but everyone, whether they show it or not, has their own set of challenges. Just because they can see doesn’t mean they don’t have their own shit they’re going through.
All I can really tell you is Change your outlook on life, and quit holding yourself back. Figure out what you want to do, and go do it. If you have to divide it up into smaller chunks. What’s your ultimate goal? Now, what are some intermediate goals you need to reach to reach that big goal? Now what are the smaller goals you need to reach to reach each intermediate goal?
magouslioni690-2 points2y ago
Wow you must live in an amazing country to be employed and educated like other people.
[deleted] [OP]1 points2y ago
I'm in UK
niamhweking1 points2y ago
I honestly don't know if it's the country or not. I think there are alot of reasons, from family, the school someone goes to, to the career path they end up on and then the persons own confidence level etc and job wise for anyone it can be luck. I'm sure there are some countries in the world where they do not have great supports for the blind yet people succeed but there are other countries with great supports where a VI person struggles.
blind_cowboy0 points2y ago
The US is not a bad place to be. On the other hand, I squandered some of the chances I was given. I can defend my decision all day but dropping out of college wasn’t smart. The second time I left college was due to kidney failure and I was to tired for school and work at the same time.
What I learned at a young age is that we have an excellent advantage no generation before mine, I’m in my late 30s, has had. Yes, the internet. You want to learn it it’s there in front of you. You may not have a slip of paper showing you learned it but if you fight hard enough you’ll eventually find a job where you can prove you know it. Want to program. There are endless books out there online and google is now offering certificates. Want to be a transcriptionist? Learn the important details online. Are you good at math? Take some online book keeper courses and start offering free lance services. I could go on and on. Other people can get in your way but the only person who can stop you is you.
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bradley220 points2y ago
Edit: I was born blind. While I’m unsure if I’d go for an operation to see, I’d definitely think about it.
First off, I hope you can pay off your debts.
I had a similar experience in school in the UK apart from the fact I had people I hung around with but in the end that didn’t make much of a difference. I went to a school for the blind called Lindon Lodge.
I was bullied there and in college, another place for the blind.
I’ve given up on finding a job and just live off of PIP and ESA.
My advice is volunteer when you can and go from there.
Being blind has its issues and it would definitely help if I could see but I get on with what I can and am over all happy with life.
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