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Full History - 2021 - 01 - 30 - ID#l8stwy
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Teachers? (self.Blind)
submitted by baistei
I posted a little bit ago about career changes. I've done a bit of research about online degrees I can get and I think a good fit for me be to go into elementary education. Possibly special education. I have a lot of experience with kids with special needs and was really inspired myself as a child by my instructors.
I have cone dystrophy. 20/300 best corrected in best eye. I'm color blind but can guess right about 75 percent of the time. Pretty light sensitive. I doubt I'll ever be able to drive. I'm already 33.
Has anyone with similar conditions gone into teaching? What are some challenges you've encountered being VI?
Mostly worried no one will hire me. I know everyone always says it's illegal to discriminate but it's simply not how it goes.
Amonwilde 5 points 2y ago
I'm a college teacher. I think teacher is actually a pretty good job for the blind, but not every environment is the same. At the college level you get a lot of control over the course and how you teach, assign work, and grade. In many elementary and high school situations, you have very little control. Being blind can also make it harder to deal with behavior issues, though I'm sure people find a way and there are plenty of sighted individuals who struggle with that. How you break into the profession might matter for being blind, I went through a PhD program which I think is a pretty good environment for the blind, but it's obviously not for everyone. Other more direct routes might be less available to you. And, yes, there is definitely discrimination, that's just reality and I see no way around it, except to be 3x better than the next person and to have a great network.
AceyAceyAcey 5 points 2y ago
u/Amonwilde I think how accessible PhD programs are depends a lot on the subject, as well as the specific department. I’m a sighted community college physics prof (aka teacher), and in 14 years of teaching at a school known for being really good for students with disabilities, I haven’t seen a single student in physics who was either completely blind or legally blind. But I get one maybe every two or three years in my Gen Ed astronomy classes. I think there’s just very little support give to blind students in math, and physics is so math intensive, that blind students are gatekept out.

OP, there are Early Childhood Education programs at community colleges, either 1 or 2 years if you go full time. Could give those a try — they’re generally aimed at people who want to do preschool or day care.
Amonwilde 5 points 2y ago
I think it's a pipeline thing. Math is a lot harder for blind people than verbal skills because the way math is taught is so visual, and because math braille and similar is even rarer than regular braille, which is to say, extremely rare, and (this is anecdotal) blind people tend to overdevelop their verbal skills as a coping mechanism. That being said, at 20/300 OP could use a whiteboard with the best of them, and while chalkboards are a pain there are workarounds for that, plus classes are often a lot more intimate at the PhD level. I can do math on a whiteboard and I'm way past 20/800 with no central vision.
AceyAceyAcey 5 points 2y ago
Oh yeah, I definitely agree it’s a pipeline thing — even if Braille and Math Braille weren’t so rare, physics has a very elitist attitude that already works hard to “weed out” students rather than invite them in, and add any sort of disability or other minority status, and that only gets worse.


Edit: u/Amonwilde — tagging you bc for some reason my iOS app since the last update turns all my replies to a thread, into a top level reply. *grumble grumble*
Amonwilde 2 points 2y ago
No worries, thanks for tagging. Keep an eye out for that one blind person because they might need some help.
baistei [OP] 2 points 2y ago
I considered this. There are a ton of jobs in daycares that require an associate's for these positions too. I could make more working fast food. It's pretty discouraging.
AceyAceyAcey 3 points 2y ago
Could go into special ed in elementary schools. AFAIK it doesn’t pay particularly well, but is in high demand. There’s probably a sub for that specifically, but you can try r/teachers in general.
baistei [OP] 4 points 2y ago
Thanks! That's what I would like to do. Work with less students who have a difficult time in larger groups. I was in special education myself for my eyesight as a child. I'm not too concerned about how much it pays as long as it feels worthwhile, I'm confident I can do it and I make enough to cross the poverty line for the first time ever haha
TheBlindCreative 3 points 2y ago
Have you ever thought about becoming a VI teacher?
baistei [OP] 3 points 2y ago
I actually looked into this. Every single job posting I saw said they that applicant needed to have a valid driver's license.
TheBlindCreative 3 points 2y ago
VI teachers are desperately needed in some places. There is a shortage. There are some school districts that will go as far as hiring someone to drive you to the different school locations if it means filling the position.
baistei [OP] 2 points 2y ago
I don't feel confident getting into a career that requires driving. I know I'll never be able to. Otherwise, it sounds like it would be a very rewarding job.
80percentaccurate 3 points 2y ago
Teacher here. Your success in the field will heavily depend on the field you decide to specialize in and the state you live in. I live in Pennsylvania and teaching is highly competitive here, unless you are a TVI. Then you can get a job just about anywhere. Basically assume that if you get training to be a TVI you can get a job anywhere. If you choose to do secondary ed or elementary Ed, a special Ed degree or second language will help you get a job a lot, but a simple teaching degree in one subject only with no specialties will heavily depend on what state you are in if you will get a job or not. I have never had a hard time getting a job in PA, but my friends with el Ed only have waited years and years for jobs. So select your specialities accordingly. I don’t think it’s a bad career choice, but you have to make sure your education level makes you competitive enough that you are the only choice when you apply for a job.
baistei [OP] 3 points 2y ago
I live in Michigan in between Ann Arbor and Detroit. I know Detroit is ALWAYS looking for teachers. Not being able to drive makes it difficult but I'm willing to relocate within the state.
siriuslylupin6 2 points 2y ago
Thinking of teaching myself but not the same sort thinking of technical teaching assistive tech.
drv687 2 points 2y ago
I’m working on making the career change into teaching. I have some usable vision but will never be able to drive. I’m working on being a social studies teacher to middle/high school kids. I specifically chose older kids so that my lack of vision wouldn’t be as much of an issue as it would be with elementary school age.
baistei [OP] 1 points 2y ago
I didn't think of it like that!! I've been worried about colors for sure. I do appreciate that children's books and homework sheets etc are generally larger print anyway. I'm sure there are struggles with both but I find it easier to connect to elementary aged kids than older teens.
AndAdapt 2 points 2y ago
Currently training to teach computer science at secondary, called high school in America.

I have no useful vision. There are challenges but you find ways to do it.

Happy to chat about my experience
alinatwirpx 1 points 1y ago
Hello!

1. How do you explain to your students visual things like graphs?
2. You can't prepare in advance to all questions that students can ask. Sighted teachers use chalk board in this case. What do you use?

Thank you in advance.
AndAdapt 1 points 1y ago
I have generally created the graph from a data set. So i have a good idea what it is going to visually look like.

In terms of questions, i either write on my whiteboard with a marker. Or if it is a question that is going to need quite a few lines of code just show an editor on my screen at the front of the room.

Generally ways around most issues that arise in a classroom. Learning is far more collaborative than you may imagine. So nothing wrong with getting students up to the front of the room and doing board work like that
alinatwirpx 1 points 1y ago
Thank you!
Terry_Pie 2 points 2y ago
So I can't really provide any help or advice, but I know two blind teachers. One still has usable vision and teaches primary school aged children (that's elementary school for those in North America), the other is totally blind though I'm not sure what year level(s) they teach. So it is absolutely a possible career choice.
BlueRock956 1 points 2y ago
It depends on your resume. Your teaching degree won't be of use, unless you build your professional background before you graduate and start looking for a teaching job. Volunteer or work in summer camps, after school programs, tutoring labs, and look for a couple of mentors who can give you feedback. Most importantly, apply yourself in field experiences as that is when you'll realize if you have a chance at a job.
That-One-Red-Head 1 points 2y ago
I work for the special Ed department at my school, and one of the SPED teachers I work directly with is severely VI, if not blind. I haven’t asked for specifics. I have my own vision issues as well, and don’t have many limitations for my job.
psychgamer2014 1 points 2y ago
I was a middle school special education teacher for all of four days before I was “let go” because of my vision and having cerebral palsy (my state has not made workplace discrimination on the basis of disability illegal yet). I’m now about to take the exam to be a behavior analyst in a Telehealth group practice as well as going for my EdD and LCSW.

With all of that being said, special education is a wonderful field in which I strongly believe we need more disability representation. If I were to go back and teach again, I’d strongly consider a special education preschool class or maybe lower elementary (K - 2).
4humans 1 points 2y ago
I worked with a teacher with similar level of vision. It was tough for her to her a job and they only hired her .3 on a term position. She taught middle school one day and elementary the other. Her elementary class only had six students. Some of the strategies she used was to get the students to say their name if they had a question vs raising their hand. She kept the same seating plan all year. Unfortunately she was not rehired the following year. The discrimination is real.

I’ve never heard of online teaching degrees, where are you that offers that? I did my special Ed degree online but already had an Ed degree which was done in person.
baistei [OP] 3 points 2y ago
WGU. It almost seems too good to be real so I'm skeptical but I've been following the subreddit for a few weeks and people seem to really like it and it's accredited. It's just hard to say how an employer would feel about a legally blind teacher who got an online degree.
I don't drive so college has not worked out for me in the past since I never had reliable rides.
drv687 1 points 2y ago
WGU is a real school but can be costly. I’m doing my teaching degree (mostly) online through a school in my state. I say mostly online because I will eventually have to do student teaching in person but all my courses have been taken online.
baistei [OP] 1 points 2y ago
My income is laughably small so I've been approved for fafsa. I plan on doing all the courses online too but will also have to student teach. Good luck to you!!!
drv687 1 points 2y ago
Thank you. Good luck to you as well.
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