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Is it just me or is it a lot of others? (self.Blind)
submitted by siriuslylupin6
I am sure it is a bit of both that’s the answer. But wondering how much others have an issue like this.

If I say something to someone could be a statement I want a response.. or tell them a fact. Even mmmhmm or interesting. Or Yeah, that’s cool. I am totally blind and can’t see facial expressions. And get frustrated if they don’t respond. Maybe there’s facial features but I don’t know them, and certainly can’t see them.

I’ll either restate the question or ask hey why aren’t you listening to me? Or are you paying attention?

I sometimes hear I heard you. and sometimes I counter with, Okay, why didn’t you respond?
vwlsmssng 13 points 2y ago
Sighted person here. We have habits, body language and sometimes forget the person we are talking to can't see the thing we said out loud in our heads but we only used a head nod or shoulder shrug externally.

We aren't being consciously aggressive or even passive aggressive, though it may seem like that, so a gentle reminder that we need to vocalise would work better than admonition.
siriuslylupin6 [OP] 9 points 2y ago
Good point. That’s interesting for sure. I think it’s just impulsive annoyance. But sitting down and talking it out this makes sense.

I don’t think anyone is being agressive or passive agressive just maybe ignoring me or not listening or not there. Maybe even daydreaming. But good points like I said.
niamhweking 9 points 2y ago
I constantly have to tell my daughter this to my daughter regarding our other daughter who is VI. It's annoying especially when someone knows you have VI
siriuslylupin6 [OP] 3 points 2y ago
Can be fore sure.
sharemilk 6 points 2y ago
yeah, as a sighted person with VI family members I'm guilty of this. I communicate my attention a lot through facial expressions and have to remember to rely on words and sounds to show I'm present in the conversation. My siblings have to remind me by saying something like "can you say something?" or "did you hear me?"

I find it's helpful to be reminded. I'd say communicating your needs clearly, and neutrally (ie. try not to accuse) is a good way forward. I hope you feel listened to more in the future - it's such an important part of any kind of relationship and you deserve that.
siriuslylupin6 [OP] 2 points 2y ago
Good points and interesting perspective.

Yeah, that’s true and I think I come off strong in no case do I accuse depends who it is but yeah....
NotUnique234 4 points 2y ago
I’ve had a few friends do this to me- I’ve visually impaired and we were doing a sound check for a recording. My friend when up back to the sound desk and said “can you check that mic there” (pointed to said mic)
I just laughed it off and played it cool but it was a little annoying.

Although in fairness- I sometimes forget people have full sight and try and shove my phone right under their nose to show them a meme.
Works both ways to be honest.

People forget- it’s annoying but try not to judge people on it
siriuslylupin6 [OP] 1 points 2y ago
I don’t judge them just is like why aren’t you responding. But yeah...

That’s interesting for sure.

And yeah, I suppose it can go both ways.
ShireHorseRider 1 points 2y ago
I think that your friends forgetting you are VI says a lot about you: that it’s a feature of you, but they don’t interact with you like you’re “the blind person”.
UnsightlyOpinions 4 points 2y ago
Happens to me all the time! I get especially nervous in a group cutting in because I have challenges judging if it was an appropriate spot. I want to contribute it I can’t always tell if they enjoyed or even were listening.
siriuslylupin6 [OP] 1 points 2y ago
I just say it and it’s more like for me I get frustrated because they don’t.
IdahoVandal 3 points 2y ago
Sighted here, but work with blind students. I loved the shocked look on peoples face at trainings when i just blurt out "She is blind, so raising your hand isn't gonna get her attention..."
siriuslylupin6 [OP] 1 points 2y ago
Haha! Nice....
[deleted] 2 points 2y ago
Another blind colleague and I have this problem. I know, it's extremely frustrating. I'm studying at a special school. Over time, we have advanced several theories that want to explain why this happens.

Theory number 1: because we are introverts, our colleagues consider us strange and consciously ignore some questions, even if they are addressed directly to them and ask for answers to real problems. This first idea does not stand because colleagues are good people, do not consider themselves superior to anyone and try to help as much as they can.

The second theory is very plausible: because we are not very popular, the brains of colleagues ignore our questions that arise in the middle of the discussion, considering them of minimal importance, so unimportant compared to this discussion, unworthy of attention at that time. The brain forgets them immediately.

The third and final theory (applies only to sighted people): because we don't have the facial expressions that typical people use, they don't know when you want to ask something and they won't stop talking.

Other factors are also crucial: loud speech (if you speak slowly, it makes sense for others not to hear you or, at best, to hear an indecipherable growl:d), timely intervention (when the speaker take a break) and subjectivity (the belief that colleagues have a bad opinion of you. This makes you think that the moments when you were ignored are several times higher than the average). Saying the name of the interlocutor can increase your chances of success. Of course, do not always say the name, because you will become stressful and they will consider that you also have mental problems, in addition to the visual ones:))))
siriuslylupin6 [OP] 1 points 2y ago
Interesting for sure.

Theory 1: extrovert in all senses colloquially and cognitively whatever you classify I am an extrovert so nope. Probably not true.

2. Maybe usually very popular but at those events I can be unpopular.

3.probably that’s a great point.

I am quite loud but second point or last point is probably so when there’s a pause I try to add in but they’re probably too busy talking. Saying the name may help.
DrillInstructorJan 2 points 2y ago
I have been told I ask people for confirmation a lot by saying "right?"

We eventually worked out that this was caused by people nodding at me.
siriuslylupin6 [OP] 2 points 2y ago
That’s very interesting I do the same or you know what I mean? Right? Do you get me? You know? Etc....
ukifrit 1 points 2y ago
it happens sometimes
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