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Full History - 2021 - 03 - 04 - ID#lxm44c
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white cane question (self.Blind)
submitted by Individual2021
hello everyone,

I wanted to ask you, if you use Ambutech's canes, do you like new shorter connical joints or do you like older longer joints they used in manufacturing until 2016?

i'm asking this because I'm trying to decide should I buy graphite cane or fiberglass cane which still has those older longer joints.
vwlsmssng 3 points 2y ago
The conical joints seem to be easier to separate when sticky or dirty than the older longer joints. A regular wipe followed by a little lubrication with some petroleum jelly (e.g. Vaseline) or a bit of lip balm usually keeps things working.
Individual2021 [OP] 1 points 2y ago
thank you very much! This helped a lot. I just wanted to ask you are the newer canes wobblier because of shorter joints? that has bin quite a big concern.
80percentaccurate 2 points 2y ago
There was a bad batch of Ambutech canes which caused the shorter conical shaped joints to be extremely wobbly and insecure to the point of not being safe. If you get a cane like this because it was in someones back room somewhere, (you’ll know because it will just fall apart in your hands) you can contact Ambutech and they’ll replace it. Other than that batch I have not noticed a difference in stability between joints.
Individual2021 [OP] 1 points 2y ago
thank you very much!
vwlsmssng 2 points 2y ago
The cane user I know (I'm not a user myself) has used both the older straight and newer conical joints. I've not noticed a problem with the newer joints. There is certainly no wobbliness when they get the cane stuck in a pot-hole and I walk into the handle :-(.
sk1ttl3s 3 points 2y ago
Did you know there is actually a 'no jab' cane?! I've gotten the cane in the gut a couple times and i know that feeling lol but with the no jab cane i haven't had this happen! (I'm also the sighted partner)
vwlsmssng 2 points 2y ago
> a 'no jab' cane

https://www.nojabcane.com/

No contact information, just a link to Amazon and ....

>Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.
Individual2021 [OP] 2 points 2y ago
Thank you!😀
KillerLag 2 points 2y ago
I've had a ton of experience with both (As an O&M Specialist, I've issues a ton of canes). The newer conical joints do have a greater tendency to come apart, especially if they are longer (58+ inches) and/or have a larger ball tip. That being said, I'm gotten a 54" cane with a regular roller tip to separate on really bumpy ground before. That issue is not as common anymore, but it still sometimes comes up (seems to also be related to usage).

The older joints used to be really sticky (in some cases, to the point where I couldn't separate them), but that was also fairly rare. The ones for the graphite canes almost never got stuck.
phillstaf 1 points 2y ago
I'm glad the I've finally seen someone else report having this issue. It gets to be really nerve racking when it jumps out crossing a street, and has really reminded me to slam my cane upright to get the joint to lock long enough to get me to a point of safety.
KillerLag 2 points 2y ago
Whatever the issue was, they did fix it. However, a client's cane had that issue last year and I reported it. It seems sometimes there is a batch that gets manufactured that isn't quite up to spec. Send them an email about it if it happens.
phillstaf 1 points 2y ago
Thanks for the tip. I've yet to have one with the new joints that hasn't done this, I belive my heavy hand and local climate/terrain conditions are a big factor.
brimstone_tea 2 points 2y ago
I like the new ones better because it fits in any bag ;)
phillstaf 1 points 2y ago
I've used ambutech for about a decade now, I absolutely preferred the old joints. The new joints come apart easier, but this also means they have a tendency to come apart while in use, in rough terrain, snow, or just by having a heavy use style.

The old joints held much better while in use, but took some elbow grease to get apart.

Also I would recommend aluminum (opinion). The graphite I found was a little to fragile for my style, and I'm concerned the fiberglass would be to light, making me feel like I'm missing something.
Individual2021 [OP] 2 points 2y ago
The fiberglass cane is the heaviest of the three canes and it is the only one with the old joint style.
phillstaf 1 points 2y ago
Thanks for clarification. I would have thought for some reason fiberglass was light. I did not do any research at time of posting
Individual2021 [OP] 1 points 2y ago
no worries
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Expensive_Banana_160 1 points 2y ago
(I’m a legally blind person who has had experience in cane training.)
Expensive_Banana_160 1 points 2y ago
Hi just wanted to state my opinion for the canes I have experience with both types (and I also hate hitting my gut into the handle) but yes the shorter canes are easier to fold but the taller canes are better on walks (hiking,being in nature and walking for so long that you exhausted or dizzy/unstable there are two problems I think of off the top of my head which is that the taller ones are quite a struggle to fold in a smaller vehicle and if you hit a crack/bump on the road or sidewalk it hits you in a higher part of the stomach which can hurt more.
codeplaysleep 1 points 2y ago
I like the new joints better. They seem just as sturdy, are easier to separate, and they allow the cane to fold up smaller, making it easier to carry in my bag.
AchooCashew 1 points 2y ago
My cane has the conical joints. it's my first Ambutech, but I did have an older cane from state services with longer joints made of metal. The longer joints would often pinch me or not fit into place very easily. So I vote for conical.
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