Hi guys, I'm curious to know how many people who are blind or visually impaired here know Braille? And if you don't, what programs or products do you most frequently use as a substitute from day to day?
The second question obviously also applies if you know Braille too because you don't use it for everything.
Thank you! :)
mehgcap6 points2y ago
I'm a life-long braille user. I went a few years without a braille display, but now I have one again. I use it to check spellings, read my programming work, check where my cursor is, that kind of thing. I also use Braille Screen Input on iOS many times a day, and absolutely love having it. I mostly read with speech, because I find braille too slow, but for spot-checking and mobile typing, I'd hate to be without it.
BenandGracie5 points2y ago
I am totally blind, and I use braille all of the time. I type with it on my iPhone, I read things on a braille display linked to my computer, and I read books on my Canute 360. I still use audio for a lot of stuff, but when I need to do some major document editing, braille is what I use along with speech.
QuentinJamesP895 points2y ago
I'm really thankful that even though I had useful vision growing up I was still encouraged to learn braille since my eye disease is progressive. I have always brushed up on it every time I've had another eye surgery. I generally am able to read magnified print, but I try to read braille regularly just for practice, and because my eye gets fatigued really fast and hard to keep focused. I've also worked a lot on braille music. I really think every blind or mostly blind person should learn it. Audio just isn't a good substitute. We would never be okay with a sighted person using only audio.
JaymeJammer5 points2y ago
I know Braille from the perspective of being an alternate media specialist in higher education, and I can tell you that the use of Braille grew less common over the last twenty years.
Lots of people who know Braille use screen readers and audio books more often than not. A lot of the world is deliberately designed to be more accessible and Braille isn't always necessary. But when it comes to studying math and other science courses, those who can use Braille (and Nemeth) request to have their materials converted to Braille for better ease of studying.
Digital text is something most people can deal with using a screenreader, but the symbols and notation used in math and science courses is not always supported by screen readers.
Check out MathJax for more information on creating accessible math and science content.
Knowing how to type and use a screen reader makes it possible to use any accessible program. With most of the blind folks I've known, MS Word is one of the most common programs used for communicating outside of email.
For what it's worth, there's a report from the trenches of academia...
Good luck!
siriuslylupin64 points2y ago
I do yes. I read braille, I know it quite well if I am doing anything serious at all and reading something thick I read braille if it’s something casual I just use the screen reader.
AllHarlowsEve4 points2y ago
I use braille to write on my iPhone using an on-screen keyboard, but unfortunately I don't have a display because my state doesn't provide them to those who can't work and who aren't in school.
When the price goes back down on the Orbit 20 I might try a GoFundMe to get one, but if it doesn't shoot way down, I'll likely have to wait until the library of congress starts giving them out.
FantasticGlove3 points2y ago
I am 100 percent fluent in 3 parts of the braille code. Grade 1, Grade 2, and Braille used for Math. I also tried learning computer braille for programming but I just couldn't get the hang of it.
paneulo2 points2y ago
If it makes you feel any better, there's also a code for math and science used in parts of the US, music, the International Phonetic Alphabet, and dozens and dozens of foreign languages. So when compared to everyone else, you only know a tiny part of braille, just like the rest of us. :) Also, UEB has basically made the computer braille code, at least for publications, unnecessary, as it contains all the symbols you should need now, all in one code. That's the idea anyway.
FantasticGlove2 points2y ago
Yeah. That's probably true also, I hated Unified English Braille but now it works for me.
zersiax3 points2y ago
I use braille on the pc to support my career as a programmer, its secondary, yet I wouldn't want to be without it, next to my screenreader's TTS though :)
siwy4don3 points2y ago
I've been totally blind for 5 years and I learned braill in a week. I use it everyday for typing onn my iphone, but rarely for reading.
ryan5163 points2y ago
I do know Braille. I use a Braille Display for Leisure Reading and writing Essays for school. Outside of that, I really only use it as a keyboard for Voiceover when I can’t do Speech to Text.
seperath3 points2y ago
Yes. I know Braille. I'm an Expert. According to American Printing House for the Blind statistics a few years ago, only .1% of blind individuals know Braille. Visually impaired people who do not know Braille rely heavily on audio devices such as screen readers like JAWS and NVDA.
codeplaysleep3 points2y ago
I don't know Braille. I know numbers, so I could use an elevator, find a PO box or locker, etc. but that's the extent of it.
I've tried to learn it before, but I never learned it as a kid and found it to be incredibly difficult to try and pick up as an adult. I was just kind of useless at it.
Fortunately, I have enough remaining vision where it's usually not an issue. Hopefully it will stay that way.
DrillInstructorJan2 points2y ago
That's basically where I am. It's an absolute pain if you don't start when you're a kid, and I play guitar for a living so I have huge calluses on my fingers which doesn't help. I don't have any vision remaining and it is something that really gets under my skin, but I don't really have a good solution to it.
DariusA923 points2y ago
I do. I don't use it much, but it's still a very useful in one's toolbox. I use NVDA on Windows and TalkBack on my Android phone for most things like reading books, taking notes and the like.
bradley222 points2y ago
I know Braille, he's a friend of mine although we don't hang out as much as we used to.
All joking aside; yes, I can read braille but prefer my screen readers TTS.
oncenightvaler2 points2y ago
I know Braille and feel I could not function well without it. I have heaps of Braille books and a Refreshable Braille display screen, I have an embosser I use rarely and an old school Brailler which I use often.
Yeldece2 points2y ago
I know braille. I use it rare like once in two year.
Remy_C2 points2y ago
Despite technically being able to read print, I'm slow at it. I learned braille when I was 7 and used it all throughout elementary and highschool. While I don't use it as much these days, I'm extremely grateful to know it. It's helped me understand spelling, grammer and formatting. Since I myself am a writer, this is all very useful. I still read it from time to time, and I write it often. I'm writing this very message using braille screen input on my phone. Anyone who says it's a dead language clearly doesn't see the value in it.
wishiwasmegmccaffrey2 points2y ago
I know the letters and such, but I’m not a fluent Braille-reader. I still have some sight left and the zoom-function on my phone is my BFF!
Fridux2 points2y ago
I know Braille, but struggle so much reading it possibly due to sensory reasons that I prefer to stay away from it. Fortunately you can get pretty much all the information you need on the Internet these days, and all major operating systems have screen-readers with speech-synthesizers available so Braille isn't even something that I feel the need to use on a regular basis. In the rare occasions I need to read print and a sighted person isn't available to do it for me I use apps like SeeingAI, in addition to having the option of scanning paper and using an optical character recognizer to turn it into text that I can read with a screen-reader, though I've never needed to do the latter. I even code without Braille, but do recognize that using Braille could probably improve my ability to read other people's code, as I tend to adopt a specific programming style to make reading what I wrote easier.
TwoSunsRise2 points2y ago
The two blind people in my family (both middle aged and elderly adults) know minimal braille. Minimal to the point where they never use it. They instead use VoiceOver on iPhone or Samsung or on Apple TV for example. They have other devices or apps that will read print to them such as books or mail. One device they use is the Orcam My Eye.
4humans2 points2y ago
I do but not often. I use VoiceOver on iOS.
Marconius1 points2y ago
I lost my vision in 2014 and learned braille in about three weeks in 2015. The Lighthouse for the Blind in SF gave me a Perkins brailler I could practice with, and I muscled through learning grade 2 UEB by adding braille to 3 entire sets of Cards Against Humanity, all expansions included. I use braille for labeling things around the house and kitchen, but the only day-to-day use comes from typing on my phone using braille screen input using VoiceOver. I'm writing this very response using braille screen input right now which is much much faster and more accurate than dictation and normal QWERTY typing on the phone.
I have a Vario Ultra 40 braille display, but haven't really used it at all in a few years since I haven't really found a use for it in my work or general use.
fawazar941 points2y ago
I do know and hard for me to do math without braille!
faerylin1 points2y ago
I tried to learn braille when I was losing my vision but I have sensorimotor polyneuropathy and the nerves in my hands are effected. So It was very hard for me to feel the bumps and differences.
Specific_Offer48001 points2y ago
I use braille to type all the time on my android phone. I started learning when I was 3. I find that most people who struggle with spelling and whatnot didn’t grow up using braille and learned later and now rely on speech and dictation to help. One strange oddity is I am slow at reading but fast at typing. I just never get the chance to read braille and I don’t have a display.
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