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Looking for feedback on a painting I did with a Braille overlay so visually impaired people can understand what the scene depicted in the painting is. (self.Blind)
submitted by RiffRaffMama
# There is a local art competition running at the moment. The theme of the entries must be "Through My Window". Whilst trying to come up with an idea, I realised that totally blind people are unable to experience paintings and other two dimensional art works and I wondered if there was a way I could somehow make my piece interactive for those people. Eventually I thought I would try out including Braille somehow in my piece. I painted a simple scene, then using an online Braille translator I wrote a narrative of the scene depicted in the painting. I tried to the make the descriptions what I hoped would be relatable for people who have never seen in their life, with symbolisms that are aural or tactile in nature, like "night skies as clear as the sound of a crystal bell" "...as smooth as a river pebble", etc. The problem was that I didn't realise just how lengthy a written piece becomes when each statement has to be provided an alternate definition. The final piece was spectacularly long and as the entries were limited to a 20cm x 20cm (8in x 8in) canvas, my idea just wasn't going to be practical - I wouldn't be able to fit that much tactile Braille on the canvas. So unfortunately I ended up having to trim the narrative down quite dramatically and condense the descriptions down a fair bit. I'm not 100% happy with what I ended up with, as I don't think it is adequately abstract enough for totally blind people to relate to, but in the end, I decided the concept was important enough that an abridged example was better than not including Braille at all.

# It has yet to be judged, so I don't know if the judges were impressed by my work yet. I'm sighted, but no artist lol, so I kept the scene simple. I'm curious to know what visually impaired people think about the concept and whether someone has already beaten me to the idea. I recognise that my creation has its flaws and as this was my first foray into using Braille and the fact that I took my characters from the Braille equivalent of Google translate, which is only going to be able to translate literally and will have likely oversimplified and basically messed up my translation, things are going to be lost in translation and there is every chance that what I have ended up with is complete gibberish. I'm hoping those of you with enough sight who can read Braille will be able to look at what I've ended up with and tell me what it actually says, before I reveal what it's actually meant to say.

# I experimented with different ways of creating the dots so that they would be large enough to not become jumbled and durable enough that they could withstand potentially many fingers running over them. After ruling out using variously sized implements like pins and skewers to push through the canvas from the back (the dots didn't remain adequately raised after being felt a few times), I ultimately settled on using seed beads and superglue. I created each word in a different colour, to help sighted people relate the rows of dots to what they recognise as text.

# I realise only being able to show you all a photo of the painting this isn't going to help those who can only read Braille because you obviously can't feel the Braille through the screen, but for those with some sight hopefully you will be able to see what I have done.

# Sorry for the wall of text, I didn't expect my explanation to be so long. As this sub only allows videos in posts, not images, here is the link to the photo: $1

# EDIT: I forgot to mention that I am Australian and so I used the Braille employed over here, being Unified English Braille, if that makes a difference to those of you who are having a go at reading my "scribble".

# tl;dr I created an artwork incorporating Braille and am looking for feedback from my target audience.
WorldlyBoysenberry26 3 points 2y ago
Here’s what I think it’s meant to say
“Through My Window.
The night sky lit by a full moon.
In the tree a koala glows.”
The actual translation is a bit trickier because some characters are not formed correctly.
“Through My Throughinowow.
The night sky li
t by a full mo
on.
In the tree a ko
ala glowls.”
The size and placement of the Braille dots is important for legibility. It’s a good first effort. Next time, I would avoid splitting words across lines. It could also help to create some kind of visual guide to help you place the dots with consistent spacing.
Thanks for sharing.
RiffRaffMama [OP] 1 points 2y ago
Thanks for having a go at deciphering it. You are almost spot on for what I was aiming for. It is meant to read:

Through My Window.

The night sky lit by a full moon.

In the tree a koala growls.

(Although, and it's hard enough for a sighted person to see, but the koala's eyes are actually "glowing" in the picture, painted in as tiny yellow dots because that's how they look if you shine a light up a tree and spot one (I have one that lives in the trees around my house. I call him Waali the koaali. $1 of him literally scratching at my door one night.)

I know I could have lined the characters up better and if I'd had more time I'd have definitely found a better way of doing it, but knowing it was never going to be perfect because I had no idea what I was doing, I was aiming as much to get people thinking as to display technical accuracy. 99.9% of people who will see it will not be Braille readers.
1BlindNinja 3 points 2y ago
Also, if you have an iPhone, turn Voiceover on and photograph it. The AI gives a basic description or the apps, Seeing AI to help 😊
RiffRaffMama [OP] 2 points 2y ago
I'll have to give that a try.
1BlindNinja 3 points 2y ago
You could look at (if you are wishing to advance your artistic talents, either use QR codes, or something like WayAround tags. These are like RFI tags and come in buttons, metal and paper tags. You log a description into your app and write it onto the tag. They now have capability to upload descriptions to share to others. I applaud your approach and wish you well. Oh, there is also another profiler, Zychem used to do a thermal profiler, you draw/laser print onto the special paper and again as different colours attract different amounts of heat, it raises the page accordingly. There is another (😹 can you tell I used to sell and train in these?) a drawing board which uses German film. It is like a drawing board with a foam back. You clip the page into the board and as you draw using a ballpoint, it raises the paper behind your pen/pencil. Maybe could be used as a way to outline the image, details within and then fill in? Other than that, there is tactimark, a liquid gel stuff (quite messy if not dried fully) and you trace along a line with it and it leaves a trail (like a silicon bead) which sets. Could you do 3D pictures? If abstract, the likes of card dies for card making might suffice? If I can help, just ask 😊
RiffRaffMama [OP] 2 points 2y ago
Wow, I had no idea there were so many approaches to bridging the gap between sighted creations and visually impaired consumers. I'll admit, I left my run a bit late. I was a bit indecisive about what I was going to paint and I actually produced $1 as well, that is just an oil painting of my two goats, Lenny and Carl, no accompanying description, so by the time my Braille idea hit me I was on borrowed time before the closing date, and since then I've thought of, and now had pointed out, things I could have done better and I think if I ever did something like this again (no immediate plans to launch an art career! I just wanted to have a go at the competition) then I would be more inclined to use QR codes because they're free and easy to set up and use and don't require any special apps or anything (well, you don't on my phone, you just hover the camera over it. I presume this is a pretty universal feature these days, not just restricted to iphones). Are the WayAround tags common? Do a decent proportion of the VI community use them? I can't say I've ever seen anything like that, but I've never looked either, and I wonder if that's due to my obliviousness to them or that they haven't been widely adopted here in Australia. I really wish I'd thought of the QR code now because I could have used the full-length narrative I originally devised.

Thanks for teaching me a little about these things.
1BlindNinja 2 points 2y ago
I use the QR codes for setting up my wifi, as it enters the password and device automatically when you hover over it. WayAround tags are a US thing, but I think there are suppliers globally. I bought the buttons to stitch onto my Tee shirts to ID them easily, along with my shirts. I sew them into the inside label down the side.
You could be super crafty and add in the What Three Words location into your description to help other blindies find it. I use the WTW as do the emergency services here. The WayAround tags can be read off them a bit, but as you say, you could generate a QR online and use it.
All this stuff is available, but little or no one uses it for something like you are doing. And thanks for the wee thing you sent ❤️ if you need anything, give me a shout, I’m totally blind, lost it 26 years ago, but I’m pretty good at problem solving, there is a post I put on u/somethingImade after I went blind, so I can put my money where my mouth is! 😊
Anianna 2 points 2y ago
My only concern with it is that your braille spacing is not standard and it may be a little confusing for braille readers. Otherwise, it's a very nice idea and a lovely piece.
RiffRaffMama [OP] 2 points 2y ago
Thanks, yes I know it's probably the equivalent of scribbling something down, rather than writing neatly, because I was running out of time and the beads turned out to be fiddlier than I had anticipated.

I'm not trying to randomly launch an advocacy campaign for a condition I know precious little about, but I figured at the very least, even if my Braille is effectively illegible, then just the symbolism represented by the widely recognised Braille alphabet (? It's not really an alphabet as such, is it? I got the impression that each character represented a sound, rather than an individual letter, would that be right?) may be enough just to make people think for a minute about something that, like me, has probably never even crossed their minds and hopefully that may lead them to learning more about visual impairment or even just inclusivity in general. I've learnt a lot in the past few hours just because of you guys.
Anianna 2 points 2y ago
There is braille that represents each letter in the English language, but you are correct that braille generally is not a direct letter to letter translations. There are symbols that stand for commonly used words like "the" and "and" and are also used when those letters occur in the same order within words (for example, the word "band" would be two braille symbols; the one for "b" and the one for "and").



I think your piece does express the symbolism you're going for. I also like how you put it that "it's probably the equivalent of scribbling something down, rather than writing neatly" which is kind of fitting since you are just learning about braille and have expressed it in a way similar to a child just learning to write, like its an expression of learning something new.
FaerilyRowanwind 2 points 2y ago
This is cool. There is legit an artist who does oil paints that are tactile. That said. Puffy paint would do super well with this. And hot glue. Or even those sticker gem things. Also. If this is something you want to keep doing. I highly recommend you learn Braille. Braille is more than an alphabet and has space saving contractions and rules so that you can fit all you want to say.
RiffRaffMama [OP] 2 points 2y ago
> Puffy paint would do super well with this. And hot glue. Or even those sticker gem things.

You and I think alike! I considered all of these things at the time. I didn't have any puffy paint, but I did experiment with drops of nailpolish. Hot glue was just too big and I whilst I did have some of those stick on gems, they werent small enough to work in the limited canvas size your work had to be on (20cm x 20cm / 8in x 8in). I live in a very small country town, we have a general store and a pub and neither of them stock such frivolities as art supplies lol. The nearest "big" town is half an hour away and I just didn't have the time to get there for some.

I knew that Braille was unlikely to be a static code system where this formation of dots equals 'a' and that formation equals 'b', etc and that the $1 was only going to be capable of a literal translation and wouldn't be able to "tailor" my words into a less simplistic and convoluted passage, but it was the best I could do at the time. I'm sure it's the Braille equivalent of a pencil case you bought online from China that has a print on it saying "My brother is the always pink. Shoes and tortoises on eleven. Please be happy world my friend."
FaerilyRowanwind 1 points 2y ago
If you would like to do this again let me know. I’ll manually Braille your words on sticky braille paper and you can stick it on.
RiffRaffMama [OP] 1 points 2y ago
Cool, thanks. Is the paper white or clear? I'm (pretty sure I'm) in an entirely different country to you though lol.

I don't know if I would do it again. I feel like I've made my little point, I've sat at the front of the bus and all I can really do is hope that it made somebody *think*. I'd be happy if it leads them down a rabbit hole of thought until they land on any worthy cause that speaks to them and they maybe choose to do something positive to get people thinking about that particular idea/cause/belief/etc. A bit like the concept of paying it forward, but in an unquantifiable, less tangible way. I have always enjoyed a challenge and to think outside the box, so if the opportunity presented itself again then I'd probably have another go increasing the accessibility of my painting, especially now that I have learned a lot more about different systems in use by visually impaired people to enable them to participate more fully in activities most people would probably consider inaccessible.
FaerilyRowanwind 1 points 2y ago
Hello. It’s clear. And I think I can post it free matter for the blind internationally. And if not it would cost me very little in postage. And I already penpal internationally so it’s no hurt to me.
projeeper 1 points 2y ago
Are you aware that only about 10% of blind can read Braille? I think you would get better response drawing with something like puff paint for tack tile and then paint over for sighted. Google John Bramblitt. He is a world renowned blind visual artist that uses several mediums in his paintings. I have one of his originals and I can feel the image in his heavy brush strokes and paint knife work. I love your thinking outside of the box!
RiffRaffMama [OP] 2 points 2y ago
See, no, I had no idea that it had such low uptake. I suspect a lot of that has to do with the advent of modern technology with its ability to translate text to speech and vice versa. I thought, naïvely it would seem, that blind kids were taught braille in the same way that sighted kids are taught to read and write. I remember in primary school being taught that deaf people communicate through sign language and blind people through Braille, and that was that. Admittedly this was 30 odd years ago when I suspect a higher percentage of visually impaired people knew Braille, due largely to the lack of the sort of technologies I mentioned before.

I've just googled John Bramblitt. His work is **amazing**! I was puzzled as to how he got all the colours right until I read that he can tell the difference by feeling them. How he keeps it all together though I don't know. I've tried drawing with my eyes closed and the disembodied loose assortment of image features is completely useless for any practical use. I realise he didn't get that good overnight, but his work is incredible. And I feel something of an affinity with him due to the fact he lost his sight due to seizures. I have epilepsy and the fear of being involved in a life changing event due to a seizure is constantly at the back of my mind.
FrankenGretchen 1 points 2y ago
I appreciate your effort. Going at braille for the first time, in a diabolical medium of seed beads/glue is determination in flesh.

Some ideas for the next project.

Braille is not our first language. Blind folks don't havd yo translate everything into braille to get meaning out of it. It's wonderful you thought of this but there are other ways that make an impact without the need use words.

Texture, sound, movement, flavor are languages, too.

Consider how you can translate a color into a texture or the item into a different sensory experience.

Mosaics, (the diabolical) seed beads, shell bit and nuts of oaper/cardboard are options for a tactile/visual piece. If you're just doing a color piece, you can use different kinds of paint or outline things in varying media. (Glitter glue, hot glue, or paint lines fir boundaries) You can use different kinds of paint for different details or add media or extra stuff like sand to show shades or color changes.

Sealing can be tricky but a light coat of clear spray paint does a good job without making details.

You can use hot glue or Glitter glue over a braille slate to get sizing and positioning of braille dots, btw. Once dry, they can also be sealed with clear coat.

I've also thought of integrating different surfaces as a base so that I can layer further detail with paint/etc. To do this, you start witb whatever surface texture you want and attach whatever other surfaces you want to it and then paint it as your Plan defines. The texture gradients will be visible and tactile.
RiffRaffMama [OP] 2 points 2y ago
I love your ideas. I had only planned on this being a one-off, something local and interesting to do that might net me $50 or $100 if everyone else's entries are of a suitably low quality that mine comparably appears decent lol. I'm not the kind of person who can just pick up a pen and have amazing drawings of roses so detailed you can almost smell them fall from the tip. My skills lie in architecture, so if I can't draw it with pencils and a ruler then I'm out of my depth! But I'm inspired by your suggestions and want to have a go at different methods of making what is traditionally two dimensional art more accessible to the wider community. I think I'll burn some google time looking for other art exhibitions I could contribute to now.
BlakeBlues 1 points 2y ago
I'm reading it over. Will update my thoughts!
RiffRaffMama [OP] 2 points 2y ago
Thanks :) I forgot to mention that I am Australian and so I used the Braille employed over here, being Unified English Braille, if that makes a difference.
BlakeBlues 2 points 2y ago
Thankfully it's the standard in the US, Canada, UK, South Africa, and Australia. I can see the work you put into this. l tried really hard to read this, but I think you missed the mark.

Here is exactly what I read:

> This fathery thini,ow. The night sky like i that by a first'll mo kname. In the tree a ko ala glow low.

I wasn't sure what most of these words were meant to be. If you could provide what you meant to write, I can see if I can decipher it. Because there is no uniformity in the location of the beads, the orientation of the beads, and the size of beads compared to standardized braille sizes, I imagine this is going to be difficult to read for braille readers. Overall, if the braille was uniform (even with using beads), I think it could clear up some obscurities in the passage I couldn't read.

Edit: I think the third (fourth?) word is moon, but there is no m, the o is backwards, and I think a bead fell off of the n. I'm still trying. I really like the picture!
AlexandrinaIsHere 3 points 2y ago
I'm suspecting that sewing beads on, followed by gluing, would be a better method. That could allow for correcting position without having any stray glue messing up the visuals.
RiffRaffMama [OP] 1 points 2y ago
I 100% agree. There are a number of things I could have done to line them up properly. I recognised that it would probably appear more like the Braille equivalent of a young child's scrawl than an adult's neat handwriting, and while I was hoping for some degree of legibility, I know that 99.9% of the people who will see it will not be able to read Braille and so I figured it was as much an experiment into what people would think about the idea than its technical accuracy.

I did actually give sewing them on a go, but despite the canvas being well, canvas, it was more difficult than I was expecting it to be and I was running out of time because it was an idea that didn't occur to me until after I'd produced an entirely $1, so I feel bad about this, but it was a bit of a rush job in the end.
RiffRaffMama [OP] 2 points 2y ago
Thanks for having a go at deciphering it! The passage is actually intended to read:

Through My Window.

The night sky lit by a full moon.

In the tree a koala growls.

But I know there are a number of things I could have done to line them up properly. I recognised that it would probably appear more like the Braille equivalent of a young child's scrawl than an adult's neat handwriting, and while I was hoping for some degree of legibility, I know that 99.9% of the people who will see it will not be able to read Braille and so I figured it was as much an experiment into what people viewing the art exhibition would think about the idea than its technical accuracy.
BlakeBlues 2 points 2y ago
Oh I can see it! I missed one of the beads for "Through" yeah, having don't uniformity world have helped, but at least you contracted it. That's the only way it's functionally readable for braille users
Dakotasunsets 2 points 2y ago
Yeah, I just got jibberish, too. I didn't even go as far as you did. When using translators, you actually have to know the Braille Code, because of the translation errors. Also, I think you are right, nothing is uniform, missing dots, and perhaps not lined up properly? It would be very helpful to know what the text is? Next time, perhaps OP could try tactile art instead of trying just Braille?
RiffRaffMama [OP] 1 points 2y ago
> try tactile art instead of trying just Braille?

I wasn't planning on there being a "next time", it was just an idea I had while producing an entirely $1 for a local art competition. That piece I didn't feel was suited to having Braille applied over the top of it, so I (admittedly quickly) produced a second piece as something of an experiment into the reaction it would get from people who had never considered the wide scope of things, outside of mundane everyday things like reading the paper or watching a tv show with little dialogue, that visually impaired people can find difficult or impossible to experience (being 2 dimensional art). But having spoken to the people in this sub who have educated me to alternatives forms of art that are utilised and the lack of Braille readers in the community, I would definitely have another go at an artwork 2.0 incorporating those ideas.
1BlindNinja 1 points 2y ago
For duplicates, the Tiger Spot Dot does multi depth profiling based on colour 😊 I’d love to, but UK based
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