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Full History - 2021 - 03 - 24 - ID#mci0ux
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Looking for smartphone advice, my dad is losing his eyesight (self.Blind)
submitted by svenalope
Hello, my dad has macular degeneration and is having trouble with his smart phone, looking for a new one. His biggest problem is he can't see the keyboard well (he never learned touch-typing or the qwerty layout), but he's not really open to speech-to-text. Anybody have tips on smartphones in the <$500 range with a large screen, or low-vision keyboard apps? This is all very new to me and I don't know where to begin.
afraidofdust 3 points 2y ago
For the keyboard thing -- once you've got a bluetooth keyboard hooked up to the phone, you don't need to worry about a big screen for keyboard use. My partner uses a logitech bluetooth keyboard to type into their phone.
svenalope [OP] 1 points 2y ago
Thanks that's a great idea!
intellectualnerd85 3 points 2y ago
Apple it’s easy to use.
svenalope [OP] 2 points 2y ago
He's using android and pretty hard set on samsung, but I could talk him into something else. I think his biggest thing is a prideful independence feeling? He wants to be able to type. I agree that speech to voice could be the best option, but I don't know how to approach that conversation
vwlsmssng 1 points 2y ago
Voice recognition has its problems, especially around uncommon names or foreign words. It will get the first draft down but then you need the keyboard to make edits and corrections.
vip-sizzles 1 points 2y ago
Android has many useful accessibility features. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing deal. Tools are there to make using the phone more efficient & can be used as needed. Google assistant is great for at this.
chovihanni-VIP 2 points 2y ago
I understand him not liking or using accessibility features but they can be easily learned. I hate I phones. To complicated and every app charges. Love my Note 9. I have 3 other visually impaired friends who love theirs as well. It has a pen you can take notes and adjust colors to whatever size and xontrastvwrks best. It has an accessibility button to not have to listen to all talkback as well as bixby who opens apps, etc. Bixby works like a walkie talkie. You also have google assistant. These two can each be used for texting by talking only. You can also get a DEX accessories which allows you to use your phone through your computer.
vwlsmssng 2 points 2y ago
Apple has VoiceOver, Android has Talkback. They both give spoken feedback to what your finger is touching or doing but they radically change the way you interact with the phone. there is a lot to learn and a lot to gain.

As an example of the differences with using VoiceOver, normally you touch something to "DO IT" and swipe to "MOVE IT", with VoiceOver on if you touch something it will tell you what you touched (e.g. an app, or which letter on the keyboard), you now have to double tap to DO IT, to run the app or type the letter, Now because your finger is sliding round the screen to find what is there if you want to MOVE IT you now use three fingers in the screen when you swipe. There are a lot more things to learn but it can be done with help and support,

If you have a smartphone of your own then learn how to switch off the VoiceOver or Talkback feature before you learn how to turn it on, otherwise you could get stuck with it on. Learn how to use this feature yourself, it will be a lot easier if you can see what you are doing. Once you have learnt then you can be your Dad's teacher and technical support when he can't remember what three-finger-double-tap does or when to use two-finger-swipe-down.
svenalope [OP] 2 points 2y ago
That's really good advice, thanks I'll look into it! I'm not sure if dad will be into it but maybe I can talk him into it!
vwlsmssng 2 points 2y ago
Learn to use Talkback yourself. Show him what it can do. Reassure him it is not difficult learn and you will help him if he gets stuck.

There are a lot of features in Talkback and VoiceOver but you can get a lot done only learning the basic ones.

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$1 finally gets around to talkback after 1'17"
FantasticGlove 1 points 2y ago
I’m using a Bluetooth keyboard to type this reply. Super easy to use and very compact. I recommend the one by a company called Atguys. It’s very nice and I love the way it feels to press the buttons. No, I’m not sponsored by them lol I wish. I hope this helps.
One_Antelope8004 1 points 2y ago
Go into phone settings and see if you can change all font up a few sizes or bolden it.
Winnmark 1 points 2y ago
Android is the way to go.
MostlyBlindGamer 1 points 2y ago
Is he using Android? Has he tried TalkBack?
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