Best film representation of blind people?(self.Blind)
submitted by secretgardendesign
What are the best film representations of blind people? And what do most writers get wrong in terms of inaccurate portrayal/representation?
I don't know what it's like to be blind, so I'm curious to hear opinions. I'm researching to write a screenplay with a blind character. Also, sorry if there is already a post about this - I saw one about blind representation in books but not in films.
andyman199413 points2y ago
I am not blind either but my fiance is. I feel like it's a little hard to ask this question to blind people because they can't really see the visual aspects of the acting to see if it's realistic. Like daredevil is a great show with a great actor but I don't think it's a very accurate portrayal of a blind person. I actually thought the CW series, "in the dark" did a pretty good job, although a lot of blind people were upset that there wasn't a blind actress. Most portrayals of blind people in film and television and literature are just wildly inaccurate and stupid. The touching face trope will set my fiance off. The wise old sage blind man is pretty common. The odly horny blind person is pretty common. The kung fu blind person. My fiance wrote her english literature thesis in college on how bad the portrayals in literature were.
ConstantIncident7 points2y ago
I can't say I've ever seen a film that accurately portrays blindness before. From what I've seen, the characters are either used as just comic relief (like "haha they walked into something", but don't get me wrong, we can be hilarious ourselves) or we're like some kind of superhero with 'enhanced senses'.
All I can say is talk to people who are VI or Blind, we're just normal people with our own dreams and ambitions at the end of the day, we just happen to not be able to see very well, or at all. :)
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Unlikely-Database-276 points2y ago
I mean, the daredevil netflix show had it pretty right, the parts when he was matt murdock, at least. From what I can tell anyway, as a blind person myself. Lol though of course, the daredevil bits are not reality in any form, as he's some dude with super senses and outstanding parkour and fighting abilities.
Only1lunatica5 points2y ago
tv show but Jocasta from Outlander is decent. she's a stubborn high-class Scottish Lady, who can be a bit of bitch sometimes, and she's happened to have lost sight with age. I think she can sense light. she has a butler who helps her with letters, introducing people and leading her when needed but yeah she's okay.
but yeah mostly it's either they're blind but not really because of some fantasy thing. in writing it's a lot of inspiration porn. I often ask if it is really necessary to create a blind character when the author (you OP) doesn't know anything about it and there is a thing with write what you know, I'm sure you can modify that for screenplays as well
secretgardendesign [OP]1 points2y ago
Just as a question, would you find it offensive or weird or anything if I, as a sighted person wrote a visually impaired character? Do you have any thoughts on opinions on it?
Only1lunatica1 points2y ago
to make the writer think, why they are actually doing it. is it, to show they're just normal people or, as most times, it has to have a bigger meaning, purpose and feel. a lot of the people who write disabled characters and aren't disabled themselves, like you, and don't know anything about said specific disability. they seem to make the disability a personality trait. it's a "what" not a "who" meaning what: what you are = skin color, sexuality, disability, fucking hair color, things that doesn't describe personality traits (unless you're a racist, sexist, bigot or ableist) "Who" is who you are eg: creative, stubborn, shy, extrovert, hyper sexual, judgmental , kind, and so on.
yes it can overlap at times but that has to do with ones environment (the nature vs nurture debate)
we mostly get treated as disabled first and a person second and when characters in entrainment are written the same it only helps fuel our annoyance or at least mine, but I'm a sceptic, I have to see it to believe it, and I have bad sight so I'm not exactly making it easier for them.
DrillInstructorJan3 points2y ago
We almost need a sticky for this.
Murphy Mason from In the Dark. She does one bit of face touching which they were obviously told not to do by their consultants so she has some lines about how she doesn't do that, then does it anyway, but otherwise she's pretty good. She is a bit too capable sometimes when the plot needs her to be.
Emma Brody from Blink, from 1993. She spends the opening act of the movie blind and is generally a hedonist and great fun. Someone tells her to count sheep to fall asleep, and she's all like "I don't remember sheep, I just keep picturing Wile E. Coyote."
Selina from A Patch Of Blue. It's from the 60s so you have to give them a break on some of the politics, but honestly her attitude isn't too bad. It's also a very interesting civil rights story. There's even some behind the scenes about the actress Shelley Winters visiting a 1960s school for the blind, which is pretty primitive with lots of basket weaving but there's something about that movie.
The thing about these movies is that every one of them has the character being blind as a major plot point. I'm trying to think of movies where someone just happened to be blind because guess what, some people are, and they do have things happen in their lives which aren't about that.
secretgardendesign [OP]1 points2y ago
Thank you for writing in! Throughout my research, I have found that blind characters are usually one of three things. Either their blindness is their character, in other words, they have no personality outside of their condition. Secondly, they most often seem to be untrue stereotypes that serve as "comic relief" or as superhumans. And lastly, they seem to be little side characters that the writer puts in last minute so that they can claim to be "diverse."
I am going to avoid all of the above when writing this screenplay. My story and plot does not revolve around this character's blindness at all. She isn't the main character, she is the main supporting character. I'm not going to make her blindness a huge deal, not to invalidate anyone, but rather to show that she is so much deeper than that. She has dreams and goals, and struggles that come with being a human, and emotions and a life to live in a body that just happens to not be able to see.
DrillInstructorJan1 points2y ago
Sounds good to me.
One thing that came up last night is that a good way to show how little she cares about it is to have her get some trivial bit of help from a buddy, "oh hey is this the red shirt or the blue one" and have the buddy just look up from what he's doing and answer her, and then some other people are staring because it's such a big deal and they're transfixed. And the buddy who knows her well just looks at them and shrugs, "what?", and they realise it's not a big deal.
That's how it goes in reality. You don't even need much dialogue.
Midget_Katt3 points2y ago
I have Aniridia. I can see but I'm not completely blind. But I still need my love's arm to walk me to and from the car at stores. The sunlight is just to bright, I physically hurt to open my eyes. So in the sun I might as well be blind. Light sensitivity is my biggest enemy. I can't have lights on in the room when I first wake and man when I get migraines I can't even handle the tv on the lowest bright setting. At night it's nice besides all the blindingly brights lights EVERYWHERE! So night time, I'm just as blind. If I bump into something I just laugh it off. But I wasn't always able to laugh it off. It use to make me cry. It was a personal hurdle I had to jump over. I felt so helpless for relying on others to do things for me. I wanted to do them myself. School...school was hard. My mother didn't want me going to a blind school so I went to a small town public school instead. It was hard taking notes, even being in the front row wouldn't help me see. All the bright lights in the classrooms plus distance from board was never a good combination. All the glasses in the world have never helped. It's definitely something I had to adjust to but it's something I'll live with for the rest of my life so had to lol.
JessConstantino2 points11m ago
I feel like I could have written this. I have Anaridia as well. And struggle with many of the same things you have discussed here.
Midget_Katt1 points11m ago
Aniridia is so rare!
Reading back on my own comment I forgot to mention the stares, the eye doctors office, and the (what seemed to never end) 'can you see this questions' asked by my mother.
People see my eyes and immediately think I'm stoned. Didn't matter my age or the setting. If they didn't know me they always asked.
And going to the eye doctors office was always an event. The doctor always had to show my eyes off to every nurse in the building. It was embarrassing at first because I felt like a freak because I was "different".
And my mother would always ask "is that to far to read?" "can you see this?" "Can you read this sign?" And so on. She never let up. I get it now she was just curious if my vision was degrading over time but as a kid who was just trying to experience the world for the first time, to be constantly reminded of my limitations was hard.
But it's always nice to meet someone else with it. What are your experiences like?
Magnospider2 points2y ago
I have aniridia, too. Sounds like your photophobia is worse than mine, even after my keratoprosthesis surgery. After that there have been a few times when it has been difficult walking toward the setting sun or dealing with light displays in stores. I’m also fortunate enough not to suffer migraines.
When I was five, an eye doctor did try to get me to use glasses. That really did give me a headache. Apparently, he did not understand that aniridia doesn’t affect the focus, but the resolution due to having fewer rods and cones. It’s like our eyes are a printer with fewer dots.
JessConstantino2 points11m ago
You have Anaridia and a KPro as well! So do I! Hahahaha my people hahahaha I have met so few people who struggle with the same things I do.
Midget_Katt2 points2y ago
Yeah my sensitivity isn't easy. I've never had surgery though. I wonder why mine is worse than yours. Yeah I've gone through lots of eye doctors that didn't know when I was a kid. So I just stopped going sadly but I've found a good one recently. He really understood what is was. He was kind of excited to see it
brimstone_tea2 points2y ago
I have achromatopsia and light is my worst enemy, too. Can't recommend polarized glasses enough! There are even tinted contact lenses.a
Midget_Katt1 points2y ago
And I didn't know what achromatopsia was. So I had to look it up. If I broke the word down I probably could've figured it out. But man I'm sorry you have that. I imagine that's a whole different challenge to live with. Not seeing colors would be a strange world to live in. Is it easier than most thing to deal with?
Midget_Katt1 points2y ago
Oh yeah I got a couple laying around my love doesn't buy any unless they are polarized and they aren't enough either.
AchooCashew1 points2y ago
Thank you for that comparison! I struggle to explain why glasses won’t help when people inevitably ask.
TheBlindCreative2 points2y ago
Blindness is a spectrum. A majority of blind individuals have residual vision. Most forms of media presents blind people as individuals with complete sight loss.
Also, a story doesn’t need to be about blindness to feature a character with a visual impairment. Consider any story and switching any character to a character that is blind while possessing the same attributes. What if Katniss from The Hunger Games was blind? Consider writing any story that doesn’t revolve around blindness.
secretgardendesign [OP]1 points2y ago
Yes! I just responded to someone else on this post about this very thing exactly. Its annoying to me, although I am a sighted person, that most writers can't wrap their heads around the fact that blindness is not a personality and it's not just a way to act "diverse."
I actually responded to someone else explaining a little bit about how I plan to write my script. Exactly what you said, about stories not needing to be focused solely on blindness to feature a character who is visually impaired.
My screenplay and plot does not revolve around this character's blindness at all. She actually isn't the main character, she is the main supporting character. It's a character based time travel story with comedic elements (and no, the blind character isn't the comedic relief) Honestly, I'm not going to make her blindness a huge deal, not to invalidate anyone, but rather to show that she is so much deeper than that. She has dreams and goals, and struggles that come with simply being a human, and emotions and a life to live in a body that just happens to not be able to see.
casserole_cat2 points2y ago
I think it called “in the dark” on Netflix. And I love it because she has a real personality like it’s not “I’m so sad because I’m blind, yes I’m blind. [touches faces]”. The only thing I don’t like is that the actress they choose isn’t actually blind. She does a amazing job I mean like absolutely terrific but they should’ve cast a blind person for a blind role. I mean it’s so much better than other things I’ve watched with blind people. Like one I watched the lady would just sit in a chair in the house and never do anything she was just a side character but still.
I’m legally blind though not blind which I wish they would explain the fact that not everyone sees just black. It’s different for everyone. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a legally blind character in tv they always blind but like seeing all black blind.
secretgardendesign [OP]2 points2y ago
I completely agree. If this script were ever to get published, I would want an actually blind actress to portray the character. I also feel that the general public now has the idea that blind people cannot see anything and are always in complete darkness which in reality, seems to be such a small percentage.
Also, I am copying a reply that I wrote to someone else on here - in regards to the no personality thing:
My story and plot does not revolve around this character's blindness at all. She isn't the main character, she is the main supporting character. I'm not going to make her blindness a huge deal, not to invalidate anyone, but rather to show that she is so much deeper than that. She has dreams and goals, and struggles that come with being a human, and emotions and a life to live in a body that just happens to not be able to see.
I hate that writers use blindness as a personality-
casserole_cat2 points2y ago
You know I have a good feeling about you and we need more people in the film industry like you. Because you are so right on that blindness isn’t a personality.
secretgardendesign [OP]2 points2y ago
Thank you so much, both for saying that and for taking the time to respond to this post. I really hope that I can write this respectfully and as accurately as possible, and of course I know that I have this subreddit to ask questions too haha
TwistyTurret2 points2y ago
Places in the Heart. It’s an older movie but very realistic.
chovihanni-VIP2 points2y ago
My blindness is from brain trauma. I am legally bound with low vision and night blind, for me, all I see are more binding lights everywhere. When I look forward I only have a right peripheral field. I do not see in front of and to the left. I am extremely light sensitive and where sunglasses for this, even indoors. I also have double vision and am legally blind in that visual field from 8 ft and closer. I have contacts for 8 feet and further that also correct the double vision, but only in the distance. Thanks to blind drivers program I am a driver incr again, but, sadly, since I get out to walk I still need my cane. I have no dimensions either...everything is flat, like looking at a painted picture. I have at least 8 pair of glasses but still cannot read due to what my diagnosis is, Left Homonymous Heminopsia. My brain is dead for that receiving of a picture but my eyes are basically fine, astigmatism, the rest of my visual impairment is all brain related. I also have communication. Glitches relating to the blindness as well as Charles Bonnet Syndrome where I see visual hallucinations. I use accessibility to get through my day as well as other tech to read, recognize faces, money denomination etc. It's nice when I can go without my cane and hold my mans elbow. When the sun goes down though, extreme eye pain from the lights and headaches if I am not in my own environment. I have learned to laugh at myself, well, because sometimes the shit I do or see is downright funny. I can literally miss a building if it's on .y left but see the shiny dime on the floor 10 ft away on the right.
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chovihanni-VIP2 points2y ago
Oh, I get to see bloody dead cats that is actually a wet blanket, mummified birds that end up being leaves, snakes all over my car, words change and simple stuff moves in me. Plastic and concrete statues move, etc. It definitely jeeps my days interesting. Sometimes funny, sometimes not so much.
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chovihanni-VIP2 points2y ago
I understand that completely! I've even seen people run across my room. Of course bad nights lead to tired days which seems to bring on more.
mantolwen2 points2y ago
I quite enjoyed In The Winter The Wind Blows on Netflix. Its a Korean drama with no English audio sadly but the sighted actor represents blind people well. Also its an incredibly moving story.
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Also in Avatar the Last Airbender there is a character named Toph who is funny and makes many blind jokes which are funny and a pretty strong and inspiring chracter
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My favoruite Tv Show of all time is Daredevil the Netflix series the main character is a blind super hero and from hearing the series and from what my father says it is pretty accurate
wilcjames1 points2y ago
Masks starring Cher.
TwoSunsRise1 points2y ago
This is random but the movie Contact has a blind guy in it. It is a little exaggerated bc I think he's supposed to have super sensitive hearing bc of his visual impairment but otherwise, he's just a normal guy. No super powers, no ridiculous senses, just a guy doing his job with a team of people. I thought the actor did a great job with it. Probably the most accurate I've seen so far (at least off the top of my head).
Apprehensive_Art33391 points2y ago
It was a short role in a tv series but I liked how the tv show Nip/Tuck portrayed it with the character Natasha, who ends up dating one of the main characters for a short while. She was independent, had a good job, was stylish and beautiful and had a sex life. They played a little into the heightened sense thing (her job was creating perfume/cologne) but not wildly out of place really. The show aired on FX years ago (I think it steered in 2003 or thereabouts).
TopDogChick1 points2y ago
I am not currently blind, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but I felt that Julia's Eyes (Los Ojos De Julia, a Spanish film) overall did an amazing job. It's a horror film where the main character has a vision impairment that gets worse with stress, but is trying to solve the mystery surrounding the murder of her sister. As the movie progresses and she's put into more and more stressful situations, the camerawork changes so that we as the audience see less and less meaningful information. For example, when she's more fully blind but comes face to face with the killer, the scene is shot lower to the ground so that we as the audience can see where the characters are relative to each other and can understand what the characters are doing, but we still can't get a good look at the killer because the protagonist can no longer see well enough to get a good look at him either.
If you have particular sensitivities regarding horror films, sight, and eyes, this movie isn't for you. But goddamn is it a solid thriller.
SqornshellousZ1 points2y ago
Sneakers 1992
goldendragon7751 points2y ago
“See” on Apple TV+
AutisticPearl0 points2y ago
Daredevil unless you're talking reality then idk
Moral_Gutpunch1 points2y ago
I'm sighted, but I prefer Trek. I love Geotdi until he got full sight
DrillInstructorJan2 points2y ago
Yeah, but, to be fair, he's not really blind, because he has his widget. This is why people like In the Dark, because Murphy has to actually deal with it.
Let's just say as soon as there's a widget, I'll take one.
Moral_Gutpunch1 points2y ago
He can only see infra red and some radiation though, can't he?
AutisticPearl1 points2y ago
So does Daredevil count? I always thought Daredevil this perfect not coming he's overly enhanced since he's end he's being super hero of course because he seems to be very independent, very smart, and he's a damn lawyer
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