I have never been able too and never will, so I'm curious if it's like moving a hand as in you have to think about it.... or is it more like breathing which just kinda happens on it's own, or something in between?
otherwise I hope you have good day, tschüss
MostlyBlindGamer10 points2y ago
There are a few different types of eye movements.
One's normally wander around to capture different details and forth a complete mental picture. These movements are fairly random and involuntary.
You can also decide to focus on some object of interest, on which case you'd voluntarily move your eyes in its direction, similarly to reaching out your hand.
There's also a mostly involuntary type of movement where, after focusing on a specific object, you'd move your eyes to track it, if it starts moving quickly. That's a hunting instinct I believe.
Finally, actually focusing at the proper distance is pretty automatic.
There are also considerations around the cooperation between both eyes, but I couldn't really help you with that, and I'm sure I'm missing other things.
You might get interesting answers at r/askscience, by the way.
Only1lunatica [OP]2 points2y ago
thanks for your detailed answer
MostlyBlindGamer1 points2y ago
No problem. Let us know if you post about it and get good answers.
Only1lunatica [OP]3 points2y ago
yeah I don't really feel like doing that but it was a nice suggesting
MostlyBlindGamer2 points2y ago
Sure, I understand.
TwoSunsRise6 points2y ago
Interesting question. You have to think about it because you need to "tell" your eyes where to look at any given time. It happens with minimal thinking and effort but if you don't consciously look in a specific direction, your eyes will just sit there (or just close).
Only1lunatica [OP]2 points2y ago
your eye lids just close if you don't pay attention?
TwoSunsRise3 points2y ago
OK I worded that badly, haha. Basically, if your eyes aren't moving they should be still or you're actually sleeping or resting. If you want to learn about how eyes move while sleeping, you can Google REM cycle sleep.
Only1lunatica [OP]1 points2y ago
I know what REM is
Winnmark5 points2y ago
I think it's also different if you have some sort of visual impairment. If you have severe nystagmus, your eyes are constantly moving in there isn't much you can do about it. Now then, I'm not an expert, but I don't think severe nystagmus makes you visually impaired, that's just an example. Though I do know it can blur vision.
In my experience, I would liken it to breathing. It's typically something you do involuntarily, but you can take control over that function at any given time for any given reason.
Good question.
SqornshellousZ5 points2y ago
Having nystagmus as I do, I can confirm even a slight nystagmus is extremely challanging. In a world where a split second delay in aquiring a n object means you cannot compete professionally.
SeptemberJoy3 points2y ago
Nystagmus can definitely lead to issues, particularly depending on the cause of it. Born with vs acquired etc.
I was born with it, it's part of a range of eye conditions I have (yay, albinism). When I'm tired/stressed/whatever it'll get worse and I'll go from kinda being able to see something to not.
Fun tangent. Had a brain scan recently. MRI tech had to retake some images and requested less eye movement. Sorry, buddy. It's involuntary.
OP: one thing I do is move my head rather than my eyes. Back when I could read print I'd find my place on a page and to scan to the next sentence I'd move my head back and forth. Not as much of an issue reading online but I do still do it.
Only1lunatica [OP]2 points2y ago
Oh yeah I have to move my head to look at anything, I get a lot of neck strain. but when reading I move my head left to right, I don't notice it because I just take in the words/story. however back when I was an avid reader I was told you'd get seasick looking at me because my head would move so fast.
Winnmark1 points2y ago
It's also how you can tell if someone is drunk.
Only1lunatica [OP]1 points2y ago
moving head while reading = drunk?
guess I'm always drunk then
Winnmark1 points2y ago
Lol no silly.
Nystagmus.
SqornshellousZ3 points2y ago
Having mystagmus as I do, I can confirm even a slight nystagmus is extremely challanging. In a world where a split second delay in aquiring a n object means you cannot compete professionally.
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meeowth3 points2y ago
Eyes move on their own with no/little sensation of movment when looking at things. Intentionally wiggling eyes about feels like a low key workout in the face holes and is easier if the eyes are defocused.
Plumeria_Chicken1 points2y ago
I would compare it to things like breathing and blinking. You sort of do it automatically, but you can consciously choose to focus on this object or that one, or at this spot in your visual field. If you don't focus, the eyes will usually look straightish ahead or will try to track something moving. This is what other people say though; I don't see enough significantly moving things to verify the last point. However, unlike breathing and blinking, there is no need to do it, technically, so it doesn't feel like something you have to do. So, for example, if I don't focus on something for a while, I do not get metaphorical screeching red alerts from my brain like I do when I stop breathing.
It took me the longest time to learn how to roll my eyes. I can move my eyes just fine, but I didn't see other people doing it, so I guess my brain just never put in any effort in to copying the movement. But when I do, it feels pretty weird. I'm pretty sure I roll my eyes differently than other people, but when I roll them, I feel a slight pressure on the sides of them. So like when they go to the right, I feel a little bit of pressure on the right side of my eyeballs. I honestly have no idea if this is normal.
But rolling the eyes, at least the way I do, is pretty extreme when it comes to eye movements, so everyday focusing and other eye movements don't feel like anything. Sometimes stuff around my eyes, like my eyebrows or eyelids, moves just a bit when I put my eyes in a certain direction.
Note: I don't know much about how eyes move, like the muscles and instincts involved. Above is mostly based on my personal experience with a little bit of what people have told me.
vip-sizzles1 points2y ago
I'm thinking some muscle control & signals from the brain. When I visit my ophthalmologist, I just move my eyes in the direction they tell me. I think also there is some natural movement when focusing on an object. When a doctor held a pen in front of my eyes, both eyes should naturally move inwards as the pen moves closer. to the nose. Oddly, only my left eye does that & my right eye moves in the opposite direction. Lastly, I've had a doctor notice that my eyes will also dance around similar to Dancing Eye Syndrome.
MrsMammaGoose1 points2y ago
I really like the hand analogy... tschuess! (Are you Swiss? I am, but like in the US)
Only1lunatica [OP]1 points2y ago
I'm danish, but I have visited Austria a lot.
Coolpokemon9621 points2y ago
it’s like a hand movement, like rolling your eyes, you do it consciously, I didn’t know how to until I was about 5
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