Speaking with a blind gentleman - advice needed(self.Blind)
submitted by MildlyAgreeable
Hi guys, I work with an anti-loneliness charity called Re-Engage and they paired me with a blind gentleman who lives in London (I live in Manchester).
He seems really down and has told me he feels like he’s wasting his life. He lost his sight about 4 years ago and so is finding daily life boring/a drag.
He’s really into languages (he has tried Braille but does not have the dexterity to use it) but does not have anyone to practice it with (I don’t speak anything other than a bit of French but am happy to learn/read phrases with him).
Can anyone recommend any sort of groups or services that might be able to assist? They purposefully pair us with people who are geographically distant as a safeguarding measure so I can’t go down regularly to help him. Any advice welcome. Thanks.
niamhweking6 points2y ago
Has he had cane training? Does he have any interests or hobbies? Even those from before his sight loss, he might not think it's possible to do it but I bet ya there is a way to do it, or even chatting about his interests. Did he used to work, study, talk about those topics. Why don't you do an audible book club with him? Give yourselves a week/month to read the book then discuss it. Or pick a meal to cook from a different country and you both cook it on the same night and have your chat while having dinner "together". Is he linked up with any VI/blind social clubs or associations, even non social ones have some form of casual meet ups, conferences, training that could get him to interact and get up and about
MildlyAgreeable [OP]1 points2y ago
Good suggestions, thank you for taking the time.
I think he needs to be occupied with something and then see how he gets on. He doesn’t like dogs so that’s that ruled out.
The book club is a good idea. I’ll see what his capability of listening to books is.
niamhweking2 points2y ago
Rnib might still have a CD library service where they post them.out and he returned them when he's done, if he's not into tech. Or his local library might even do him a favour if you both pre arrange something.
Does he get meal on wheels delivered, again it's someone else to chat with one day a week
[deleted]3 points2y ago
Hi I know this isn’t the answer you wanted but how did you start working with the charity? It’s something I would really like to do!
MildlyAgreeable [OP]3 points2y ago
Re-engage. It’s actually an anti loneliness charity. You do a sort of personality test and they pair you with someone who they think you’ll get on with. I’ve been working with them for maybe around 5 months or so. I call him every Wednesday evening. He just sounded really down so I’m keen to see what I can do to help.
MildlyAgreeable [OP]2 points2y ago
Re-engage. It’s actually an anti loneliness charity as opposed to a blindness charity. You do a sort of personality test and they pair you with someone who they think you’ll get on with. I’ve been working with them for maybe around 5 months or so. I call him every Wednesday evening. He just sounded really down so I’m keen to see what I can do to help.
niamhweking1 points2y ago
Alone does this in Ireland, age action etc do it to I believe. During lockdown ncbi in Ireland did it too for their VI clients
AutisticPearl3 points2y ago
I have a wonderful suggestion here it's not perfect but maybe see if something like Rosetta Stone or Bible is accessible to the blind I don't know if it is and I don't know how to look that kind of thing up, so I can't help you there but that would be good and even if not for him you so, I suggest you ask him what language is he like and then you attempt to learn them you may not be perfect at it but it'll give him something nice and it'll show him that you are taking initiative and want to try to help him not feel
MildlyAgreeable [OP]2 points2y ago
Good call, thank you for that.
And yeah I do my best with a few phrases - we translate Wikipedia together but I can only give up so much time a week and I don’t want to be the only outlet for his interest in languages. I’ll look into the Rosetta Stone thing.
Fluid_Calligrapher252 points2y ago
He should attend the virtual national federation of blind conference this year in the US since it’s virtual. It’ll get him out of his slump to see blind people being productive.
zersiax1 points2y ago
If he has a phone, Clubhouse might be an option. It's a relatively new app, and you'd need an invitation to get in, but it is audio chats on a huge variety of topics and particularly on iOS, it is quite usable and accessible with VoiceOver, the iPhone screenreader. I've seen other blind people who felt rather isolated light up and make great contacts on there :)
BlindLuck721 points2y ago
Does he like movies? There are a ton of audio described movies on Audio vault. Maybe you could download some pick a movie send it to him and watch the sighted one. It would give you guys something to talk about that isn’t just his disability. You’ll learn more about what he likes that way and get more ideas that might engage him.
MildlyAgreeable [OP]1 points2y ago
Yeah I’ve suggested that but he seems not to be really engaged with spoken movies for the visually impaired. Thanks for your suggestion though.
BlindLuck722 points2y ago
Everyone is different.
Blindness can be very isolating especially at first when you have to relearn every little thing in your life. It took time for me too
MildlyAgreeable [OP]1 points2y ago
I can only imagine, man. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
retrolental_morose1 points2y ago
My daughter and I played a few of the games together when I was away for a few nights on http://qcsalon.net Most of them have no visuals but some do - she regularly beets me at reversi now. Does he know about Audio-description on film/TV etc? There's a wealth of radio drama on the BBC. If you both had 45 mins to spare you could pick one a week, listen to it separetly then discuss. Does he have a smart speaker? Loads of quizzes and things on Alexa.
MildlyAgreeable [OP]1 points2y ago
Thanks for your response mate.
I’ll look into the games. He does have Alexa yes but I don’t think he has broadband. He says that the RNIB tend not to follow up with their promises and have only issued a cane and a taking clock. He’s a fan of radio 4 and we do discuss a potential poem or song to discuss.
retrolental_morose3 points2y ago
there's been a running joke in the blind community for years that RNIB actually stands for Really Not Interested in the Blind... They can be quite useless, especially for the well-adapted. I'm also in the Uk, mid 30's. Feel free to send me a PM if he's got specifics you would like a second opinion on.
MildlyAgreeable [OP]1 points2y ago
Thanks for that man, I appreciate that. I have another call booked in for tomorrow evening so I’ll see what his reaction is to some of the suggestions people have put through.
tree_trunks961 points2y ago
Hi! I study rehabilitation for visually impaired & blind adults. His local authority sensory department will offer support in accessing braille, and offer opportunities to meet others! I would recommend braille tracking sheets and learning guides from RNIB & uebonline. RNIB, British Blind Sport and Guide Dogs also offer loads of great services - hope this helps
tree_trunks961 points2y ago
Also for learning languages, there is University of the Third Age (U3A), available in most districts. I know visually impaired people have attended these groups, including language courses.
DrillInstructorJan1 points2y ago
How old is this guy?
MildlyAgreeable [OP]1 points2y ago
Early 50s maybe?
DrillInstructorJan2 points2y ago
Hmm that's well young enough that he needs to deal with it properly. People don't like it when I say this but it's different if it's someone who is 95 years old. At his age he needs to learn how to deal with it and I don't know that you can help him totally with that remotely, but there's stuff you can he can do. Mainly him, frankly.
I could you all kinds of things but fixing the whole feeling like he's wasting his life issue is a very broad thing to address and takes a lot of effort in different areas. Braille frankly is a massive drag, it's notoriously difficult to learn and slow to use. I run a business and I don't read braille. It's sad that it's a dying art but it is not essential in a world where the internet exists.
In my view orientation and mobility is the first thing to hit because you are stuffed if you can't even get out of the house and into a cab, or down the road to the corner shop to get some wine, er, milk I mean. If it's been four years we are well, well past time he should have all that stuff down and if he doesn't, push for it, and if he's reluctant don't think you're doing the guy a favour by being nice. Excessive niceness is a problem. Nobody wants to be seen in public with a white stick, it's a case of doing it regardless. That takes proper in person training from a qualified person. If he's capable of soloing short trips and can do things like trains and buses then we can talk about next steps, which basically means get out of the house as much as possible and do stuff.
I should be upfront that I have no particular qualifications in rehabilitation or orientation and mobility or anything like that but I have mentored people. The people I've spoken to are much younger and female but there are common factors.
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