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How do I deal with feelings of incompetence caused by blindness coupled with perfectionism? (self.Blind)
submitted by Fridux
When I was in school I wasn't perfectionist at all, and in fact only cared about scoring the bare minimum to pass every subject.

Once I found my first job I believe that the responsibility of having to be productive in a team changed something in me making me increasingly more perfectionist. I was getting things done despite always feeling bad about my performance, but since I felt that I was still contributing positively I managed my perfectionism fairly well.

However, since I went totally blind that I can't shake off the feeling that I'm now an amateur at my former profession and thus a potential liability if anyone decided to employ me, partly due to not being able to use many tools due to accessibility issues, and partly because I'm still trying to learn my limitations so cannot guarantee to anyone that I can accomplish a task with a high degree of certainty and quality.

How do totally blind professionals in general, and totally blind programmers in particular, deal with this kind of thought? Do you just not care about being productive? Have you found a niche where vision is absolutely unnecessary and you can work completely unhindered? Do your contributions to your employer justify your income?

I really miss working, and am tired of being a sink of taxpayer money, but since I don't think that what I'm still capable of making for free is worth anyone's attention, I'd feel really bad if I was earning an income, and that's the main reason why I haven't looked for a job for 7 years now.
retrolental_morose 7 points 2y ago
I develop freelance, so if the job requires a UI, I tend to earn less because I have to employ sighted aid to ensure things work visually. I’m perfectly capable of backend, database, library, API, data analysis and processing jobs, though. My rates and my timings are no worse than any of my sighted contemporaries. Sometimes I sell accessibility of course, which occasionally nets me a bigger income.
Fridux [OP] 3 points 2y ago
Have you ever developed sighted? If so, how was the transition?
retrolental_morose 5 points 2y ago
Sorry, no, I was born blind.
I have managed teams of sighted developers though, and apart from perhaps focusing on code standards a little earlier on in our team-building work than might naturally come up I've had no issues.
bondolo 6 points 2y ago
Some of this sounds like very normal imposter syndrome not associated with blindness which is typical among programmers.

So many people get it wrong with regards to what is important in programming. It is not about how fast you can type, it is not about how good you are with a text editor, or with algorithms though all of these things can help.

Being observant, making connections, considering consequences many steps ahead, modelling and analysis, describing and communicating are the key skills of a programmer.

I encourage you to get back in to it. You've got experience so maybe start with customer technical project management. Whether you go back fully into software development will be up to you and what you feel comfortable with doing (and what works technically because of the accessibility issues). There is a huge need though for technical people who understand software to do good project management and it is a critical contribution in making sure projects ship on time, on budget with features and quality that make everyone happy.
SpikeTheCookie 6 points 2y ago
Hello! I think you've done a good job at identifying several areas that are affecting you negatively.


Here are 2 things that might be helpful.


\#1 Therapy for vision/disability adjustment (and perfectionism, etc.). Here's someone who's just awesome, and she's blind as well. $1


\#2 Blind Institute of Technology (BIT), which has phenomenal training programs that include internships and careers in the corporate world.


To move forward you will have to adopt the mindset of resilience, that you are here to kick ass, that people will be lucky to work with you, and that nothing will stop you. Because it will take that mindset to do the hard work needed to reach success.


Also, BIT will not take you into their program unless you are willing to show up and become awesome. If you don't think you're capable, then they really can't help with training. They take people who are corporate ready and just need the skills and support.


You have be tough enough to do everything required and more, to dazzle yourself and employers, even if you feel anxiety about it. All humans feel anxiety. It's called Imposter syndrome. But you have to be committed to overcoming that.


$1


Good luck!
musical-toot 3 points 2y ago
Programmer here! Though my vision does not affect my job much.

It sounds to me like this has less to do with blindness and more to do with self image and confidence since you already felt this way when you still had more vision. Ive heard similar sentiments parrotted by sighted and able bodied people too.

Just know this: if someone is willing to pay you a certain amount for a service, its because you are worth the investment. If they truly thought your performance was as bad as you say, they would have just found someone else to do the job.

Furthermore, employees are long-term investments. Every employee, sighted or not, has periods where they are less productive as they learn the ropes of a new role. Even if you have a few hiccups while learning to get around inaccessible tools, if the company is continuing to pay you it is because they know it will pay off. You are much more than a programming machine. You are a person with experience who can council others, and propose ideas that can help the business, and who has knowledge about the ins and outs of your particular industry. These on their own are valuable.

This goes for tax money too! If you recieve disability money or welfare or any other government money, its because somebody looked over your case and deemed you worthy of it. If you dont take it, the taxpayers will still keep paying and the funds will just go to someone else. But if you qualify, it means you are just as deserving of that check as anyone else who qualified!

So I would conclude by saying this: if programming if something you want to pursue again, do it! Whats the worst that can happen? You lose your job and end up back where you are now? On the other hand you have so much that you can likely gain by re-entering into the industry. After all, if you hated it so much, I dont think you would have posted this looking for advice :). And if you truly just loathe working with your condition, then you should feel no shame in taking the disability money. That is what it is there for!

Not choosing an option gives you the worst of both worlds. You guarantee that you will not get the money, experience, connections, or confidence that you could if you succeed, and your mind will remain clouded with doubt and reinforces your feelings that you are unworthy.
Fridux [OP] 2 points 2y ago
> Just know this: if someone is willing to pay you a certain amount for a service, its because you are worth the investment. If they truly thought your performance was as bad as you say, they would have just found someone else to do the job.

I have it somewhat easy to impress in technical interviews, but feel like a fraud because I cannot live up to the expectations that come after as I have the technical knowledge of a programmer with over 20 years of experience and a newbie's ability to find my way around complex codebases due to my blindness, which is an aspect that in my experience is highly overlooked despite being of utmost importance as most codebases produced by companies are a mess. In addition I feel uneasy about working as a freelancer because I cannot guarantee the quality of anything that I develop end to end alone, and don't like being in a position where I have to both trust and depend on other people whose quality of work I cannot assess.

> You are much more than a programming machine. You are a person with experience who can council others, and propose ideas that can help the business, and who has knowledge about the ins and outs of your particular industry. These on their own are valuable.

While I agree that there's value in being able to come up with solutions, I don't think there's a job market for someone doing that exclusively, as in my experience everyone with a consulting role in the software industry is also a programmer.

I posted this thread because I'd like to either read how other blind programmers manage to be competitive or alternatively read other perspectives that make me feel better about integrating the job market with this disability, and to this end, I'm grateful for your answer since it gave me some food for thought.
blind_system 3 points 2y ago
I'm also a perfectionist, but blind my entire life. Honestly, it hasn't been a good thing. It will often cause you to quit even if you're doing well, which can be a problem. It's also led to some mental health issues for me.

Its about trying to compensate for your disability, often working harder or doing things differently just to feel "equal" to the people around you. Eventually, it just makes you feel empty.
alinatwirpx 2 points 2y ago
Maybe this topic will help you
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part 2: $1
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 2y ago
I think knowing that you’ve tried your best and the best is really the best you can do is really all you can do. You know you have these issues so work on them.
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