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Administrating DMT to the blind community (self.Blind)
submitted by wrtrguy27
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BlindOG83 5 points 2y ago
Spiritual tools? Is this guy serious?
BlindOG83 4 points 2y ago
So you want to give hallucinogens to blind people in hopes that they will see, what? If a person has never seen before then they don’t have the exact information to even translate what might happen. Just because one person said that it was an awesome experience does not mean that that will be the same experience all across-the-board. If you’re not a doctor then you should probably leave this to people who have studied and made it their life work to explore the psyche.
BlindRyan1 3 points 2y ago
>For the people who this may viscerally trigger for whatever reason: stay blind, if you want to. No skin off my back. I'm trying to help and elevate. You don't want knowledge, no one's forcing you to get it. I've got some of this stuff in transit to my childhood friend who is blind and he's stoked about trying it. I will pull this off, with or without you salty motherfucker's support or blessings. Come get on the train or remain in the dark.
Typical pseudo-intellectual arrogant druggie pish. "If you don't want this magic cure I've got, you're fine to stay in the dark like sheeple, bruh."
Careful, blind brethren and sistren, this guy's got some opium tonic and the Brooklyn Bridge to sell us too as well as the cure for hystrionics and a lead-based unguentine that, if rubbed dye-rect-ictly into your eye stumps, will grow you new eyes.
Fuckin' druggies. I'm never wrong when I mark a person. I hope you can someday live your life without the need for hallucinogens. The real world is actually better than the one in your head if you put the work in to MAKE it better.
Typical pseudo-intellectual arrogant druggie pish. "If you don't want this magic cure I've got, you're fine to stay in the dark like sheeple, bruh."
Careful, blind brethren and sistren, this guy's got some opium tonic and the Brooklyn Bridge to sell us too as well as the cure for hystrionics and a lead-based unguentine that, if rubbed dye-rect-ictly into your eye stumps, will grow you new eyes.
Fuckin' druggies. I'm never wrong when I mark a person. I hope you can someday live your life without the need for hallucinogens. The real world is actually better than the one in your head if you put the work in to MAKE it better.
wrtrguy27 [OP] -1 points 2y ago
There's no magic cure my man. Just looking for people interested in participating in an experiment. I have nothing to sell or results to promise. As with everything any one who chances upon this: use your own judgement and discernment. All love to all you guys! Ryan....
"The real world is actually better than the one in your head if you put the work in to MAKE it better."
That's exactly what I'm trying to do.
Love you brother! All blessings and positivity to everyone.
EDIT: here's some nice music from a blind musical duo from Mali to lighten up your saturday :-): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw1LxCKswkc
"The real world is actually better than the one in your head if you put the work in to MAKE it better."
That's exactly what I'm trying to do.
Love you brother! All blessings and positivity to everyone.
EDIT: here's some nice music from a blind musical duo from Mali to lighten up your saturday :-): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw1LxCKswkc
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BlindRyan1 -1 points 2y ago
If you're born blind, you can't see. Not even on drugs. If your brain has ever experienced sight, the drugs might bring it back in the abstract.
Just use exhaustion or adrenaline instead. I despise drugs, personally. If you need drugs to function, you are fundamentally weak. And I say this as someone who takes medication so I don't die. My physical shell is fundamentally weak. I don't hold myself above druggies.
Just use exhaustion or adrenaline instead. I despise drugs, personally. If you need drugs to function, you are fundamentally weak. And I say this as someone who takes medication so I don't die. My physical shell is fundamentally weak. I don't hold myself above druggies.
TheEquestrian 2 points 2y ago
You are wise to be cautious about illegal substances, especially with a vulnerable population. However, with proper preparation and care during and after the experience, blind people may be able to enjoy psychedelics too. There are risks, but no the ones you are stating.
In fact, according to this article in the Economist, " \[Global Commission on Drug Policy\] conclude that, as far as the scientific evidence is concerned, current drug laws have no rhyme or reason to them." A chart from the Lancett demonstrated that harm done by Alcohol use is not double, not quadruple, but 18 times greater than damage by psychedelics. So if you are going to keep DMT away from blind people, you need to take away the booze.
DMT is a beautiful experience; it is not an addictive substance used to function. No one needs DMT. Additionally, people don't \*need\* DMT in the same way they don't need a vacation in Hawaii. They are luxuries and are generally enjoyed infrequently. Can I function without it, yes. Do I wan to? Heck no. You personally don't have to try DMT yourself; and people who enjoy DMT are unlikely to pressure someone to use it. That's not how it works. However, you might consider at least trying to learn about it before deriding it.
As to what know of hallucinations and experiences might be had by people who have never seen, well that's yet to be determined. With only one anecdotal report, we just don't have evidence either way. One thing to note about DMT is that hearing and physical sensation may also be affected. A blind person may experience those effects. If a well prepared and supported blind person (same for sighted folks) wants to try DMT or drink Port wine at their wedding, who am I to tell them no?
In fact, according to this article in the Economist, " \[Global Commission on Drug Policy\] conclude that, as far as the scientific evidence is concerned, current drug laws have no rhyme or reason to them." A chart from the Lancett demonstrated that harm done by Alcohol use is not double, not quadruple, but 18 times greater than damage by psychedelics. So if you are going to keep DMT away from blind people, you need to take away the booze.
DMT is a beautiful experience; it is not an addictive substance used to function. No one needs DMT. Additionally, people don't \*need\* DMT in the same way they don't need a vacation in Hawaii. They are luxuries and are generally enjoyed infrequently. Can I function without it, yes. Do I wan to? Heck no. You personally don't have to try DMT yourself; and people who enjoy DMT are unlikely to pressure someone to use it. That's not how it works. However, you might consider at least trying to learn about it before deriding it.
As to what know of hallucinations and experiences might be had by people who have never seen, well that's yet to be determined. With only one anecdotal report, we just don't have evidence either way. One thing to note about DMT is that hearing and physical sensation may also be affected. A blind person may experience those effects. If a well prepared and supported blind person (same for sighted folks) wants to try DMT or drink Port wine at their wedding, who am I to tell them no?
wrtrguy27 [OP] -4 points 2y ago
No, it is possible to see. Through your minds eye. It's not the same as what you see through your eyes, but it can show you color, shapes, patterns...if you develop the minds eye you can see just about everything, but that's a mystic path.
I wouldn't categorize these as drugs, per se, but spiritual tools that allow to access latent abilities we're not aware we have. You don't get 'high', you're just able to perceive more of what's normally imperceivable through a way outside of normal sensory experience.
I wouldn't categorize these as drugs, per se, but spiritual tools that allow to access latent abilities we're not aware we have. You don't get 'high', you're just able to perceive more of what's normally imperceivable through a way outside of normal sensory experience.
BlindRyan1 3 points 2y ago
Dude, I know blind people. I know blind people who were born WITHOUT EYES and a couple of them have done mushrooms, LSD, and yes even DMT. They can visualize a lot with their mind's eye but they can't visualize color because they've never had an analogue (like touch is the analogue to shape and texture and so on.)
You can't cure blindness with drugs. Hell, most times it can't even be cured with surgery. Trying to get people to join you on a drug trip is just irresponsible. You can gussy it up by calling it mystical but you're fucking with your brain and the brain does not like being fucked with.
You can't cure blindness with drugs. Hell, most times it can't even be cured with surgery. Trying to get people to join you on a drug trip is just irresponsible. You can gussy it up by calling it mystical but you're fucking with your brain and the brain does not like being fucked with.
wrtrguy27 [OP] -4 points 2y ago
Alright brother. You're making me consider close-minded attitudes I may encounter in this project going forward. Thank you very much for responding. Many blessings! All love.
BlindRyan1 2 points 2y ago
I've done time. I've seen what drugs can do to people. It's not closeminded to follow the patterns. I'm glad to have given you a cold splash of water on your fever-dream of curing the blind of the world with illicit substances.
My advice would be to find INDIVIDUALS as opposed to groups as you're MUCH more likely to find people as opposed to a group of people.
My advice would be to find INDIVIDUALS as opposed to groups as you're MUCH more likely to find people as opposed to a group of people.
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