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When do I tell my future employers I’m BVI (self.Blind)
submitted by AllSharkLivesMatter
I am applying for a job, but the interview is online through a predetermined set of questions. Since I cannot exactly tell/reveal to the hiring manager that I’m BVI, when should I tell them that? Do I just show up to orientation with my cane or should I call the store through HR and tell them?
masthews 4 points 1y ago
What kind of job is the interview for? Is it something where you’ll have to be in person? Regardless, I assume you’ll interview with the manager and I would tell them. If someone won’t be working directly with you (ie HR) then they don’t need to know in the interview process IMO.
niamhweking 1 points 1y ago
Good point about HR versus a direct line manager, never thought if thay before
bbqribsftw 3 points 1y ago
After you're hired.

The interview process is about leading with your best foot forward; talking about what you can do not what you can't. If you can do the job that they are hiring for then there is no need to bring it up until it's time for an accommodation.

Obviously if it comes up don't lie but you are under no obligation to tell them and it does not benefit you in the least to tell them beforehand.
BlindRyan1 3 points 1y ago
Back in 1998, I did a job workshop and I was told to mention it but play it up. Been blind all my life/for a long time. I do my work this way. Put me in front of a computer and I'll do my work as fast if not faster than someone with vision. Hiring me makes the company look good and rest assured, I can pull my weight and then some.

But this was back in '98 so your mileage may vary. Someone with more recent experience will probably tell me I'm off base or something. Just offering what I was told at an NFB job hunting workshop before we really knew how bad my lungs were.
EmergencyFriend303 1 points 1y ago
Hi! I’ve had this same question before. But after a boss retired and I got stuck working for someone who was very against people with visual impairments, I decided it had better be one of the first things I say. I always put it in the “Tell me about yourself” question answer. I never want to work for someone again who thinks a VI means I’m untrainable. If you tell them up front, you have a chance to read their reaction. It might ultimately help you avoid a really bad situation. In my mind, interviews are as much for the potential employee to read the employer as for the hiring manager.

You may also want to reach out to HR who might be able to put you in contact with someone who can make an orientation more accessible. I did that for my current position and they were able to get me a lot of material up front which was helpful.
jasondbk 1 points 1y ago
Legally you can’t be discriminated in the hiring process, but there are so many ways to say someone else is more suitable or qualified that it’s hard to prove.

If it comes up, be honest. I don’t bring up my disability in interviews. But when asked about certain tasks I may say something about needing some assistance to complete the task.

I do have some hearing loss and vision problems as well as a physical disability.
rumster -7 points 1y ago
It's in the application when you apply under disability. Why can't you tell them you're visually impaired? Do not put them in a weird spot on the first day.
MostlyBlindGamer 3 points 1y ago
Employers are not legally allowed to ask about that. If it's on the application it shouldn't be.

The reason to consider not mentioning it from the start is wanting to avoid discrimination.
rumster -4 points 1y ago
This is absolutely wrong and not how to benefit someone looking for a job who is disabled. The ADA states employers cannot fire you for your disability. But for certain in office jobs at least it benefits you to let your "new" employer know you might have some hurdles.

I literally applied for a new job recently and it's on the job application to either provide my disability or not. It will benefit me stating that I did then state I didn't so I can get a special chair. It also benefits you behind the scenes to make sure they cannot fire you do to your disability.

Let me put this out - I understand companies will discriminate prior to hiring. But it will benefit you 10 fold once you are employed by them.
zersiax 7 points 1y ago
First, not all job applications are created equal. While a section for disability is present on some, or even most job applications, particulary in the US, there have been several occasions where this section is not present, in which case the whole thing becomes quite a bit less cut and dry.

Second, by stating that just showing up with a cane would put them "in a weird spot" as you put it, you are in my opinion perpetuating the very thing the ADA is trying to prevent. Showing up to work with a cane shouldn't be "weird". it should be the most normal thing in the world, and if an employer gives a prospective employee trouble about same, that would be discrimination which you might as well unearth before you start there to begin with.

You say there might be "hurdles", and I absolutely agree that those should be mentioned. But everything has its place.

If there is no specific question in a job application that asks about disability, OP is under no obligation, legal or otherwise, to disclose that information at that point in time, and there are very legitimate reasons not to disclose this information quite yet. If anyone at the place of employ makes a thing of that, then this is not the place for OP to work, because if that wouldn't have happened initially it certainly would've happened later regardless of when this information was disclosed.. Christ, this is a visual disability, not a contagious disease. Do we have to indicate marital status and sexual orientation as well just to make sure we don't offend a manager's delicate sensibilities?

I don't believe in the "visually impaired people should bend over backwards to make sure they don't make the poor normies feel at home" rhetoric, I think it's an old-fashioned way of ablism that has no place in 2021.

Having said that though, I'm not saying one should outright lie about one's disability. If you think your disability will not hinder you in the job you are trying to perform, absolutely apply without disclosing. While it is true that the ADA prevents people from being denied due to disability, it does jack shit about employers lying about the reason for a rejected application, or about an HR rep quietly binning your application if they feel they can get away with it without causing a fuss. This happens here in Europe, and it happens just as much in the US, ADA or not.

If you do think your job will require some kind of accomodation, wait until you get invited for an interview, then either bring it up when you get the phone call to schedule, or when you are there in the interview room.

Why? Because at that point, you have far more control over the subsequent reaction. Stick a big fat blind sticker on your resume and people will have days, even weeks to decide you're not worth the fuss and figure out a creative loophole to get rid of you, or come up with a bunch of questions that will make them feel incredibly awkward because they won't have the means to answer them, which means their preconceived notions will answer them for you. You don't want that, believe me.

Have them find out when you're on the phone or in the room with them, and any questions or concerns they have can immediately be aired and dealt with. And I mean on the phone or in the room with an actual rep from the company, not some recruitor or intermediary. Disclosing it there will just cause an elaborate game of Telephone to happen which in the end benefits nobody.

I've been doing this job thing for the last 6 years, having worked for various companies in and out of the US both as a wage slave and a freelancer. This is the approach I've used for all of it, and purely as a social experiment I tried the much dandied about method of being good and letting people know at the earliest opportunity. I'll just let you guess at what method was more successful.
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rumster 0 points 1y ago
I understand what you mean - but my statement was "after employment" not before. I also worked for one of the largest companies which employed disabled people in the state of Wisconsin. So I know what you mean that "schedules start moving around, and you might not fit what you're looking for" BS. But, if you DO get get the job your best bet is to be open to your limitations since you will be screwed in infinity if you don't start producing. It's a golden window as I was told by the HR department. You cannot be fired for disclosing and you are protected by laws from firing due to your disability. I never said to announce it to the world when you're job hunting but to make a statement after you get hired is the proper move. Anyway, you wrote a great writeup. So just to be clear you're albino? Unless they meet you and maybe notice you're impaired or that your eyes skip they wouldn't probably care. Again, I know what the job market does to the blind. But it also does good if you're open with them after you get the job.
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