Thinking of learning an instrument with homonymous hemianopia, left side defect. Any recommendations?(self.Blind)
submitted by Britpix47
Hi,
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I was thinking of learning a new musical instrument and clasified as blind. I have homonymous hemianopia in the left field. I'd like to learn the piano but thinking this might not be the best idea as finding the keys could be problematic.
Ok_Palpitation_84285 points1y ago
I am a very low vision grad student in classical piano performance. I will admit, piano is much easier if you can see, but keyboard topography is very feelable. Particularly if you want to play as a hobby and not a career, I think piano is actually really great for blind/low vision musicians - the kinesthetic motions involved are much more intuitive than, for example, oboe or violin, where the body mechanics are so exacting. I am not sure what style of music you would like to play, but another option you might like, due to similar repertoire and textural possibilities, could be guitar or banjo. My understanding is that the body mechanics of those instruments are a bit more complex than for piano at the beginning stage, but at more advanced levels, become almost entirely touch oriented, whereas piano can often become more visual in certain styles at advanced levels. But really, I think you should just choose the instrument you like the best, I have met blind/low vision musicians of almost every instrument, there are always work-arounds for more visual aspects.
Dantesmansion3 points1y ago
By chance do you give lessons or have any tips for another low vision person learning piano? I'm in college an majoring in audio production. I'm going to be starting a piano class in a few weeks actually.
Ok_Palpitation_84281 points1y ago
Ah well, you may already know this, and probably your teacher will go over this, but the core of keyboard topography is the alternate groupings of 2 and 3 black notes. Since they are raised above the white notes, they are good feelable landmarks. I just remembered, my undergrad teacher taught a sight reading class for the collaborative piano track majors, the first week of class she would blindfold them and set a meteronome, then have them jump across the keyboard, group of 2 - group of 2 - group of 2, up and down the octave iterations. Once they could do that at around attack point = 60 bpm or greater, they would move on to white notes, where you feel the group of 2, then locate the C immediately to the left of the C#, and play only it. After that, they would move on to chords, intervals etc. It may not directly help with playing music on a keyboard instrument, but it is very helpful for learning and instilling keyboard topography into the brain, so that when you know what note you need to play, you do not have to search for it in the physical world as well.
Dantesmansion1 points1y ago
Yeah I imagine it's all muscle memory and ear training. I've been making synthesizer patches by ear so that helps me recognize pitches.
Britpix47 [OP]2 points1y ago
Thank for the help, I'm looking to play classical pieces and some modern melodic pieces too. I did play guitar before when I wasn't classed as blind, but I'm probably wanting a new challenge with the piano. Since the damage is in the brain, not eyes themselves. The learning process should help the brain rewire too. I'm mostly doing it for fun at home as I enjoy music on the piano.
Ok_Palpitation_84282 points1y ago
Ah then I think piano would be great. Navigating keyboard space while blind is very much like navigating the outer world while blind, just more predictable and no bad consequences if you make a mistake, so it is kind of like a computer game primer for the outside world.
sabethXhardstyler4 points1y ago
go for it! when i went to a bland center in my city, they had piano and harp classes. i was one of a few low vision people, but most were completely blind and playing awesome! I am sure it will add additional learning curve, but not insurmountable.
complex-blobfish3 points1y ago
i have to start this by saying that i am uneducated on your particular condition.
i am registered blind. i can play guitar, ukulele, piano, ocarina, kalimba and bongos. out of all these instruments i would consider the piano or the ocarina the easiest to learn when blind. honestly i found the bongos the most difficult as my hands kept hitting the wrong places. i have played most of these since becoming blind, although i could play violin at school before going blind, i couldn't afford my own one though so i have not played since i was 8.
playing the piano is a bit like a dance with the fingers. if you can touch type you can definitely play the piano. if not you probably still can as it is only 2 levels instead of 5-6 so it is easier to play than touch typing. the struggle comes in with the sheet music. it will take longer than sighted people for you to play full songs, braille sheet music is a whole other type of braille with different rules, and due to the need to touch braille, you cant read the music while playing it. personally i gave up with braille sheet music and learned how to tell by ear what notes are used, then i play around until it sounds right.
you will need to memorise the notes instead. in my opinion this makes us learn faster when you get to the later stages of learning because we cant cheat by looking at the notes so we become independent musicians quicker.
you will make mistakes, it will be hard to learn to move each hand doing its own movements at the same time. but it is worth it.
i would say go for it.
if you ever have some blind related piano questions i'd be happy to answer if i can, and point you to some large print or screen reader accessible sites that display the notes of popular songs as their letters for piano.
remember that Stevie Wonder was completely blind and became a brilliant composer of piano and other instruments. he never even took one single music lesson.
i hope you do learn to play and i wish you good luck with it.
Britpix47 [OP]1 points1y ago
That's great. I can touch type once I find the correct starting position. Due to the left field defect, i might ignore it when finding the correct key when typing but if I look carefully at find the right starting point, then I avoid errors.
Dantesmansion1 points1y ago
Hey I would very much be interested in any resources you may have. I'm just starting to learn piano myself.
ukifrit2 points1y ago
everything will be problematic at first. On time, you’ll learn to find the keys without even thinking about it. The same applies for drums, strings and pretty much any instrument.
Britpix47 [OP]1 points1y ago
Excellent! :)
Born-19952 points1y ago
Vision is not really a big factor when learning instruments. I come from a family of master musicians who are all blind. Glaucoma runs in the family. It’s all about feel.
Criptedinyourcloset1 points1y ago
Listen buddy. I have learned a lot of instruments. Guitar, trumpet, bass, violin and piano. And I have to say, piano is the easiest one I’ve ever learned. It’s all about learning where the keys are on the piano. The piano is not completely uniform. Also, if you get your own electronica keyboard and put it in your home, you can put markers on important keys that you find. Because playing an instrument is not about just looking at stuff, it’s about sound. So, if you hit a key with your finger and it sounds like middle C, it’s middle C. And you can put a marker on that.
Jabez771 points1y ago
Monocular music teacher here. I’m not familiar with your particular conditions, so apologies if important details are overlooked. I have taught several students who had no vision.
I wouldn’t think piano should be automatically excluded, most pianists I know don’t play by sight, more by feel. I’m actually taking lessons from a blind piano player.
People have been learning musical instruments for millennia. Don’t overthink it. I’d suggest you try several, starting with guitar or piano. Brass, woodwind, string instruments are also good candidates as they rely mostly on sound and touch.
Good luck!
Britpix47 [OP]2 points1y ago
Thanks for the info! My condition basically means i can see straight on perfectly fine but on the left peripheral field it's blind. So I won't see while looking ahead anything in the left space. I try to overcome this by moving my head around a lot.
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