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Would someone mind trying out an Android game for a student project? (self.Blind)
submitted by [deleted]
Hi everyone,

I'm a student and I'm currently developing a short game for Android Mobile Devices that is supposed to be visually impaired-friendly with Unity.
I don't seem to be able to find enough people for testing.

Would someone mind trying it out and answering a few questions? I would be really thankful.
gunfart 2 points 1y ago
it's really not all that complicated. close your eyes and try your game out.

there you go, you have the perspective of a blind person now. we don't have magic powers or special super hearing abilities, we just can't see. where you would be able to say "oh wow this isn't fun i'm going to open my eyes now", we can't.
[deleted] [OP] 0 points 1y ago
I read studies about gaming for visually impaired that suggested otherwise, because people use different senses and usually if one sense gets worse other try to make up for it. And they actually stressed it's important to actually include visually impaired and that it's NOT the same if one uses your method.
gunfart 1 points 1y ago
no, not really. we don't gain superhuman hearing abilities because our sight is gone, we just learn how to rely on things like our hearing way more, or even our sense of smell.

if me and a sighted friend are walking down a street, his brain might filter out the sound of a jackhammer from across the way or the sound of four different cars with different engines/exhaust, whereas my brain is processing these sounds and identifying them and their distance instead of just looking at them and getting that visual cue. i guarantee if you put on a blindfold for like a whole week straight and really focus on just hearing things or touching things to identify them, you'd get a better understanding of what i mean.

don't let unrealistic ideas that we all turn into matt murdock when we lose our sight skew your thoughts of how we live. we're just forced to live this way and make the best of what we have left.

also, how are you supposed to use other senses in a video game? it hasn’t been a long time for me, but if i recall you only used your eyes, ears, and hands to play games. can’t use your sense of smell or taste unless i’ve totally missed something in the past five years.
[deleted] [OP] 0 points 1y ago
The senses part was a general statement.
And what you said is the whole point if someone usually uses their hearing for orientation they have a different pov. For example in Tampokme the visually impaired won the game easily after a while, because they got the audio cues faster.
From your POV I could babysit for an hour and would have enough understanding of parenting, which is not true. I mean that's the whole point of target groups, they have a different understanding and experience of things. Sure I could make people play blindfolded, but I won't know if it would be as enjoyable or not enjoyable for visually impaired or blind people.
I never said that visually impaired or blind people are superhumans, I also want to test sighted people and compare, so I'm not sure why it's bad to ask the target audience.
gunfart 1 points 1y ago
can you explain how one would get audio cues faster? that wouldn’t be something because one is missing their vision, perhaps they are processing things at a faster rate because that’s just how their brain works. some people are quick to learn things whereas some people are not, being visually impaired has nothing to do with that.

as for the parenting thing, no i don’t expect you to learn much of anything about parenting after babysitting for only an hour, that amount of time was never mentioned. if you babysat for an entire week straight, 24/7 without any breaks (much like a visually impaired person can’t just turn the lights back on), then yeah i believe you would have a better understanding of parenting. you’d learn some of the dos and don’ts and all the frustration that comes with it. an hour wouldn’t provide a fraction of that experience.

i don’t want you to just leave out the target audience, but basically don’t expect a drastically different answer from the blind vs the sighted because again, we are the same people just getting by with our eyes closed.
bjayernaeiy 1 points 1y ago
Appreciate what you're doing and just wanted to commend you on that, although I can't help personally sadly as I'm an iPhone user.
[deleted] [OP] 1 points 1y ago
I'd be happy to!
CloudyBeep 1 points 1y ago
The other poster was completely misguided and I'm sorry you had to deal with them. You're completely correct that it's ideal to have blind people test games, not least because you've already played your game so you know how it works.

Most blind Android users live in developing countries where iPhones aren't affordable. There are no email lists or websites for blind Android users. Your best bet is to try using Twitter hashtags such as #blindtwitter to find people. I wish you the best of luck and am sorry I could not be of more assistance.
[deleted] [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Thanks,

Are iPhones better for blind users?
CloudyBeep 1 points 1y ago
Much better.
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