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When virtue-signalling goes wrong - LGBT rainbow crossings are apparently confusing guide dogs (spiked-online.com)
submitted by JohnKimble111
AceyAceyAcey 7 points 1y ago
The whole tone of this article feels like the author just wants to be outraged about something, and they say it “might” confuse the dogs and make them harder (not impossible) to train. It really feels like some sort of whataboutism or white knighting to me. Have actual blind people experienced this difficulty with their service dogs?
retrolental_morose 2 points 1y ago
absolutely not. As u/BenandGracie said, the dogs don't use the colours at all. What a ridiculous article.
BenandGracie 3 points 1y ago
I am confused. Way back when I had a guide dog, I didn't think dogs acctually looked at the lines on the pavement. I always thought the dog just went in a straight line based on what direction I was facing. I didn't even think dogs could see the painted lines.
macadamia_owl 3 points 1y ago
I think those would be a huge problem go people as well, some special glasaes are filtering out many colours even 80-90% if them (it's like dogs vision) sometimes not wearing those isn't an option: seizure reduction, albinism, strong lights sensitivity, contrast and colour perception problems where high difference between two colors is best ans aligning colors like rainbow is worse thing ever for most VI and legally blind. Or for anyone's who's colors/contrast is affected.
High contrast stripes and markings are essential in orientation at day and night, low light, bad weather. Rainbow altrough cure can't guarantee same safety and functionality. What about people with dementia, intellectual disability, ADHD, sensory problems? They may not adapt to it at all can't be trained like dogs, can't be explained that crosswalk changed and fir some such change will be unacceptable not because they don't accept LGBT but they're unable to accept even smallest changes in their life such Life us hard.
LGBT community can express themselves without changing others lives or putting others into danger. This idea is crazy dangerous.
If it's not broken don't try to fix it.
High contrast stripes and markings are essential in orientation at day and night, low light, bad weather. Rainbow altrough cure can't guarantee same safety and functionality. What about people with dementia, intellectual disability, ADHD, sensory problems? They may not adapt to it at all can't be trained like dogs, can't be explained that crosswalk changed and fir some such change will be unacceptable not because they don't accept LGBT but they're unable to accept even smallest changes in their life such Life us hard.
LGBT community can express themselves without changing others lives or putting others into danger. This idea is crazy dangerous.
If it's not broken don't try to fix it.
AceyAceyAcey 1 points 1y ago
FWIW the rainbow crosswalks aren’t generally promoted by LGBT people, but by local governments wanting a veneer of supporting LGBT people. The group to be outraged at here is not the LGBT people themselves, but the local government or local public works department who think painting rainbows is better than substantive support for LGBT people, and who don’t consider unintended consequences.
But that said, I’m curious, do you know of actual cases where people with different color vision, or using special colored glasses, have actually in real life had problems with the rainbow crosswalks? What I’m reading in the article and your comment is that these *could* cause problems with people with these vision issues, but no actual evidence that it *does*.
But that said, I’m curious, do you know of actual cases where people with different color vision, or using special colored glasses, have actually in real life had problems with the rainbow crosswalks? What I’m reading in the article and your comment is that these *could* cause problems with people with these vision issues, but no actual evidence that it *does*.
Tarnagona 2 points 1y ago
I have poor colour vision, and haven’t had a problem with them. They aren’t as easy to see as a regular zebra crossing, because some of the stripes are less contrast to the road. But at the same time, i can see enough of the crosswalk to figure out it’s there, and it’s no worse than a street where the lines on the road haven’t been repainted in a while and have faded. I don’t need crisp, super obvious, high contrast lines to cross the street, or I’d have trouble at half the crosswalks I encounter.
Granted, I’m only one colour blind person, so it could be others are having trouble who are not me. Personally, I find the rainbow crossings cheerful, and not overly difficult to figure out.
Granted, I’m only one colour blind person, so it could be others are having trouble who are not me. Personally, I find the rainbow crossings cheerful, and not overly difficult to figure out.
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