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Transitioning from low vision to full blindness: Tips? Tech? (self.Blind)
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retrolental_morose 4 points 1y ago
Part of my job is teaching tech to BVI people (I'm totally blind). It's often as much a learning curve for me as for them, because they're transitioning from a mouse approach.

Screen readers are irritatingly verbose, no denying that. I think the proliferation of touchscreens has helped; you can scroll around a web page in similar ways to the sighted because the layout is represented well by having a fully touch-surface. This falls down completely on a computer of course.

Keyboard shortcuts are paramount, the more you use, the less you get frustrated.

What specific technology do you have? Are you planning on buying a screen reader? Have you learned any Braille?
nonniemous 4 points 1y ago
Funnily enough, I find touchscreens so disorienting without visual cues that I almost prefer a computer, but then I *actually* sit down to try and navigate it and the way most apps are built drives me insane, haha.

Big fan of keyboard shortcuts, though I prefer to have an option to set up my own. I'm not opposed at all to learning, though.

I currently use a laptop running Windows 11 hooked up to a monitor/keyboard/mouse, and my phone is a Google Pixel 4a (Android 12). I'm considering purchasing a braille display after I do some saving (Orbit 20, maybe? It seems quite portable and it's one of the more affordable models). I've been using NVDA because I prefer open source stuff but I wouldn't mind purchasing JAWS.
retrolental_morose 2 points 1y ago
I wouldn't worry about JAWS to be honest. Wrap your head around NVDA's browse vs focus mode to really *get* navigating the web, and work out how much you need it to tell you about in the document presentation section of NVDA's preferences. I turn almost everything off - I don't care to hear when something is a heading, for example, not most of the time.
They have superb training materials, their basics one gives you many useful shortcuts. I'd be very happy to answer questions if you go through them, or come online with you and do stuff together at some point if that would be of any use.
nonniemous 2 points 1y ago
I'll go through the basic NVDA training book and get back to you, then; I would certainly appreciate sitting down with a real human being and ask questions or practice together, though, so I'd like to take you up on that offer once I've gone through the materials so that I don't waste your time too much with the very basics :) Do you check Reddit often, in case I contact you via PMs when I'm ready? Or would you rather I send my message elsewhere?
retrolental_morose 1 points 1y ago
Oh PM's are fine, I spend far too much time on here. I don't do reddit chat as a rule. can do sms/whatsapp/telegram or whatever, I'm easy.
retrolental_morose 1 points 1y ago
Just to come back to some of your other points ...

* touch screen Internet access was new to me; until comparitively recently: I transitioned from a button phone. I miss t9/"predictive text" input. that said, I've been using a Virtual-cursor approach with screen reading on the web for almost 2 decades now, so that feels very familiar.

* the Orbit is probably one of the best options for Braille if you have to fund it yourself. It can be an invaluable tool for proofing and an excellent aid to do more Braille learning, and they also make for great notetakers in their own right due to their remarkable boot-times. You'll have complexity moving content written on an Orbit into Windows/Android though, as it saves in a braille format generally speaking, or even if it does translate, only into plain text.
projeeper 1 points 1y ago
Check with Hadley institute. They’re an international school that offer several blind courses at no charge. I’m not sure if they offer this course or not.
WorldlyLingonberry40 1 points 1y ago
Go to a rehab center for the blind. Challenge yourself to train under sleepshades. Google Louisiana Center for the Blind training
nonniemous 1 points 1y ago
I'm not in the States, unfortunately, so presumably I can't attend there. Do they have online resources?
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