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Should I have interfered to help this person? (self.Blind)
submitted by PanGrotesco
I was walking home today from school and saw a young guy walking on the same sidewalk as me but in the opposite direction. He had his eyes covered with some kind of blindfold(?) and had a cane with a tip that I believe indicated he is NLP-blind...

Well, there were some trash cans obstructing the path directly in front of him (the kind of trash cans you set out by the street). My first thought was to go move them out of the way for him, but I froze up and just crossed the street to get out of his way instead. I watched as he hit the first can with his cane and then awkwardly navigated forward to hit the next one. It did cross my mind that he might be cane-training, since I would assume you would just walk around something that was in your way?

My general anxiety might have contributed to me not offering assistance, but I ALSO thought I might spook him if I tried to help by suddenly bolting in front of him to move the cans.

What should I have done in this situation? Should I have told him to "watch out for those trash cans" or something?! I ask because there is a blind school down the street from my school and it's likely that I could face this kind of situation again.
DrillInstructorJan 32 points 1y ago
If I'm about to plummet into the piranha tank or plunge into a vat of chemicals that will turn me into some sort of super villain, maybe stop me. Otherwise, chances are I've got it.
rumster 3 points 1y ago
Volcano? Does Volcano give any super powers?
DrillInstructorJan 7 points 1y ago
No, that's for disposing of unwanted jewelry.
rumster 3 points 1y ago
damn. lol
Rethunker 1 points 1y ago
Volcano is also good for disposing of unwanted laser sword pupils. Doesn't always work, but worth a shot. May cause serious resentment in those who won't remain disposed.
PanGrotesco [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Heard.
retrolental_morose 17 points 1y ago
Yeah, no guilt. Trash cans are expected and everyday items, and were no danger to him. if you'd been passing as he hit one, it might have been nice to say that there were a few more ahead, but not essential or anything.

Also keep in mind that it's quite possible he's relying on hitting things to know where they are. if his eyes were completely covered, he could have been cane-training, have issues with light sensetivity or any number of things - including just being totally blind of course. This would have left contact with the cans as the easiest way to get around them.
FaerilyRowanwind 13 points 1y ago
That’s what his cane is for and it does sound like he was doing cane training and practicing.

Edit: thought I’d add. Please make sure you don’t leave your trash and like that and keep trees and bushes and stuff from hanging into the sidewalk. A lot of people don’t think about someone having to walk through all those obstacles
K41M1K4ZE 9 points 1y ago
You did good.
I'll hopefully have my training next year and these trash cans are a very common obstacle.

Adding to that, there are many blind or visually impaired people who don't like to be pampered constantly.

Just relax, we have to deal with awkwardly navigating around every day ;)
Marquette91 8 points 1y ago
Good job not interjecting yourself into a situation the person had well under control. Everyday occurrence. Could have said "hi, how's your day going"
MetisMaheo 4 points 1y ago
Having fairly good vision one moment,and actually helpless an hour later,vision just Gone due to Glaucoma and Cataract,I have a different take on this.Vision for a lot of us varies day by day,or even hourly .Unable to feel a very gradual decline crossing a driveway while on the sidewalk,I walked with my cane right into the street,and a man yelled for me to wait,to go back,caught up to me and explained.I thank heavens for people like him.Have to go out alone sometimes,food and whatever,and I've had to rely on strangers (dangerous?) to guide me home a few times do to sudden vision changes.So maybe watching to make sure folks with canes aren't going near the street when going around obstacles would be the best thing you could do.Dogs can be difficult too.We are at greater risk statistically for street crimes too.Glad the reddit board is here.
Pinknose27 3 points 1y ago
No need to intervene but a hello how are you would have worked. No reason to cross the street to avoid them.
niamhweking 3 points 1y ago
When my daughter uses her cane, it clears paths! People seem so surprised and helpful everyone gives her about 20ft berth! However it doesn't bother me and I probably would have done the same before she came along.

I'd probably have stepped onto the road myself in OPs case as I would if I met a person and an obstacle, somethings gotta give and it is easier and quicker if it's me, rather than expecting the older person, person with a buggy, parent with gaggle of kids etc
Rethunker 2 points 1y ago
If the young guy was wearing shades, he may have been in training. Most legally blind folks have some usable vision, but training in the use of the white cane may involve wearing shades so that the student relies on other senses.

O&M instructors train by wearing shades, too. Good for the student, good for the future instructor.

Had you stepped in, you might have simply activated another aspect of training, namely that one must be assertive and (nicely) reject help if it's not wanted.

I don't know of an analogy for sighted folks, but I'll try this one: imagine you're at an ATM, and you pause a moment as you decide what to do, or as your finger hovers over a button. If in that moment the person behind you in line stepped forward and said, "Can I help you? Want me to push the button?" then that would give some sense of what blind folks face regularly.

Long story short: if someone is walking independently with a cane, they are walking independently. If they want help, they'll ask.

(I'll note that I'm sighted, but this sort of thing is a topic of conversation with friends of mine who are white cane users. And I see weird reactions from sighted people when I'm with those friends.)
mdizak 2 points 1y ago
Sure, feel free to yell out, "watch out bud, trash cans coming up". People do that to me all the time, and although I really don't need them to do that, I also don't mind either. Not like it ruins my day or anything.

However, don't go running up and grab him. Us blind folks really don't like that. Happens to me once in a while were some woman will grab me, I'll wonder what the hell they're doing, and they will proceed to tell me I was just about to hit a large metal pole. I just thank them while pulling away, and think to myself, "no, I wasn't, I know full well the pole is there and even if I didn't I'm sure I would have noticed it".
PanGrotesco [OP] 3 points 1y ago
Wow, yeah... I would never run up and grab a stranger, no matter their visual ability (unless they were about to unintentionally injure themselves or something, then maybe!)
Tarnagona 2 points 1y ago
You may have said, “there’s some trash cans up ahead; do you want some help getting around them?” And the person can let you know what help they need, if any. Certainly no need to rush around and start pulling trash cans out of the way. We’re it me, I would find that incredibly awkward, having someone rush over to help with something I know I can navigate myself without trouble. But there’s nothing wrong with asking, and then listening to what the person says (IDK how many sighted people I’ve run into *insist* on helping after I’ve told them I’m fine, and I wish they would not).
rumster 1 points 1y ago
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