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Vest kind of phone (self.Blind)
submitted by phonesforall000
I am asking for a friend who had Android. Is the iphone for people who do not see well. What do you use and why.
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WorldlyLingonberry40 5 points 1y ago
Both the iPhone and Android phones are accessible. Its a matter of personal choice. Your friend already knows the Android platform, so he'll probably adjust faster with his Android phone and TalkBack, which is the screen reader used to navigate the phone.
pictouguy 2 points 1y ago
The fact that it didn't support another device in my opinion is irrelevant. It's a smartphone. What I'm not interested in is that I can use a virtual braille keyboard on the phone itself. It's faster then typing
phonesforall000 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
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UpsideDownwardSpiral 2 points 1y ago
I haven't used an kphone.on the past10 years, but I use an android.phone (galaxy note 9) and have been.very happy with the accessibility features. I use the built in voice assistant, bixby, and have voice commands to turn on and off things like color inversion.
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 1y ago
It’s all up to personal preference and personal opinion.
I have been using iphones for the last 10 years. I genuinely like the os and find that I am quite use to it and attached.
I have been using iphones for the last 10 years. I genuinely like the os and find that I am quite use to it and attached.
Bubbly-Duck3232 1 points 1y ago
I prefer iPhone. I’ve been one for the last ten years or so; before I lost my vision. Naturally it was so much easier to figure out how to use the accessibility features. I’ve tried to set up my boyfriends accessible features on his Android…I disliked it.
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r_1235 1 points 1y ago
Hmm, I personally use Android, as they are affordable.
IPhones have some really cool accessibility features, and some really, very, sexy voices for Text to speech. But, they are very expensive as well.
Most of the common apps, Whatsapp, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Spotify, etc are accessible on both of the platforms, though there are various added features and bells and whistles for each platform.
IPhones have some really cool accessibility features, and some really, very, sexy voices for Text to speech. But, they are very expensive as well.
Most of the common apps, Whatsapp, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Spotify, etc are accessible on both of the platforms, though there are various added features and bells and whistles for each platform.
CosmicBunny97 1 points 1y ago
Wait, what sexy voices for iOS?
r_1235 1 points 1y ago
The Siri voices? You can use them with voiceover
CosmicBunny97 1 points 1y ago
I know, I’ve just never heard someone call TTS or the Siri voices sexy :P
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zapto_gamer 1 points 1y ago
Oh and btw, apple doesn’t price apps on the appstore, that’s the developers of those individual apps.
Apple charges you $100 for a developer license per year, this is if you want to post apps to the appstore.
And if you are a developer, Apple takes 33% of ingame purchases revenue. So if you charge for the game up front, or have in game purchases, Apple will withhold 33%. But that’s not charging the user, just the dev.
Apple does automatically charge sales tax based on your location. So a $1 game, might be $1.08
Again, not all apps cost or have in game purchases, I know this because I have an addiction with installing tuns of apps and games on my phone.
Apple charges you $100 for a developer license per year, this is if you want to post apps to the appstore.
And if you are a developer, Apple takes 33% of ingame purchases revenue. So if you charge for the game up front, or have in game purchases, Apple will withhold 33%. But that’s not charging the user, just the dev.
Apple does automatically charge sales tax based on your location. So a $1 game, might be $1.08
Again, not all apps cost or have in game purchases, I know this because I have an addiction with installing tuns of apps and games on my phone.
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 1y ago
Heh! Glad I am not the only one who loves to install apps I think I have 900 or 1000 of apps collected in my icloud. I joke I could be the app store.
pictouguy 1 points 1y ago
Yes and this is why I develop for Android - there was no fee. Go read about the rotten Apple's losses in court. They have been screwing over their users for years when it comes to the phones. You shouldn't believe everything that comes out of Tim Cook's mouth especially when it comes to your privacy. But that's a topic for another sub Reddit.
zapto_gamer 1 points 1y ago
No, not everything costs though. While I agree it isn’t right of Apple to take 33% of the developer’s profits, there is nothing we can do about that.
If I have to choose between Samsung or Apple, it would be Apple because of accessibility. I agree with another commenter though, this really just depends on the person using the phone, hate Apple love Apple, hate Samsung love Samsung, it all comes down to what the individual feels.
Opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one.
Also, I’ve played games for the blind on an Android phone, the game is trash, along with a couple other games that the developers tried making direct touch.
It’s a hell of a lot smoother on Apple.
So why isn’t Samsung trying to improve their accessibility? Why do they keep releasing phone after phone with a garbage talk back?
Maybe just maybe if they were to fix problems I face every time I open my Samsung phone, I would like them more, but currently, I stand by Apple.
If I have to choose between Samsung or Apple, it would be Apple because of accessibility. I agree with another commenter though, this really just depends on the person using the phone, hate Apple love Apple, hate Samsung love Samsung, it all comes down to what the individual feels.
Opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one.
Also, I’ve played games for the blind on an Android phone, the game is trash, along with a couple other games that the developers tried making direct touch.
It’s a hell of a lot smoother on Apple.
So why isn’t Samsung trying to improve their accessibility? Why do they keep releasing phone after phone with a garbage talk back?
Maybe just maybe if they were to fix problems I face every time I open my Samsung phone, I would like them more, but currently, I stand by Apple.
zapto_gamer 1 points 1y ago
This is not correct.
I cannot see anything out of my right eye, and only colors & blurry shapes out of my left.
When I turned 14 years old I got an Android, it was my first phone, I even argued with my friend that owned and iPhone that Android was better lol. A year and five months later I was upgraded to an iPhone 11 since my OMN instructor advised it would be beneficial, and on top of that, dozens of blind people I met at a summer camp for the blind also said that I should upgrade, and that I wouldn’t regret it.
Guess what? I’m never going back to Android. I owned that 11 from Nov 2019 up until a few months ago when I got a 13 mini. Mini is nice in my opinion because it’s easier to get in and out of my pocket.
If you have the budget for and iPhone, I would 100% advise you to get one, doesn’t even need to be a $900 phone, you can get 11s for $600-700, and lesser phones for even less.
Apple 100% takes care of all blind and visually impaired users, while my experience with Android sucked, I thought it was good at the time, but that’s because I’ve never owned an iPhone to know how wonderful accessibility could get.
The majority of apps do not cost, my Grandmother and mom also think this, they think everything on an iPhone costs, but that is not correct, ask literally any iPhone owner lol.
I personally have only spent money on games for the blind, and even then, less then 5% of the games cost up front, and it was my own personal preference to spend money on in game upgrades and items.
The fact that people actually believes everything on an iPhone costs saddens me, because it is just not true.
I cannot see anything out of my right eye, and only colors & blurry shapes out of my left.
When I turned 14 years old I got an Android, it was my first phone, I even argued with my friend that owned and iPhone that Android was better lol. A year and five months later I was upgraded to an iPhone 11 since my OMN instructor advised it would be beneficial, and on top of that, dozens of blind people I met at a summer camp for the blind also said that I should upgrade, and that I wouldn’t regret it.
Guess what? I’m never going back to Android. I owned that 11 from Nov 2019 up until a few months ago when I got a 13 mini. Mini is nice in my opinion because it’s easier to get in and out of my pocket.
If you have the budget for and iPhone, I would 100% advise you to get one, doesn’t even need to be a $900 phone, you can get 11s for $600-700, and lesser phones for even less.
Apple 100% takes care of all blind and visually impaired users, while my experience with Android sucked, I thought it was good at the time, but that’s because I’ve never owned an iPhone to know how wonderful accessibility could get.
The majority of apps do not cost, my Grandmother and mom also think this, they think everything on an iPhone costs, but that is not correct, ask literally any iPhone owner lol.
I personally have only spent money on games for the blind, and even then, less then 5% of the games cost up front, and it was my own personal preference to spend money on in game upgrades and items.
The fact that people actually believes everything on an iPhone costs saddens me, because it is just not true.
pictouguy 1 points 1y ago
I point to several examples of where Apple has suddenly pulled features without notice. They then reappear but not until after a complete OS update. So if you think that is a "good experience" then I would not want to see your version of an actual good experience. You'll learn that parents don't know everything. Especially when it comes to technology.
zapto_gamer 1 points 1y ago
And to comment on the features Apple has removed, this is not relevant because all you need to do is use a Samsung phone, then an iPhone to realize the difference.
However, lets say it was relevant, well then, were those features ever implemented on Samsung? Did they already have these features? Why did Apple remove them? There could had been reasonable reasons why Apple would do that.
However, lets say it was relevant, well then, were those features ever implemented on Samsung? Did they already have these features? Why did Apple remove them? There could had been reasonable reasons why Apple would do that.
zapto_gamer 1 points 1y ago
Have you even owned an iPhone? Have you owned an Android? If you have owned both then you are either not the same level of blind as I am (and not lower), or you haven’t owned both phones to realize what you are missing out on.
Additionally, where did I say parents know anything about tech? Personally, I am the one helping my father with tech issues, he doesn’t do anything to help me or persuade my opinion, unless of course I need help with visual things, which isn’t often.
In fact, he asked me multiple times if I was sure I wanted to upgrade from an Android to an iPhone.
He didn’t force it.
Additionally, where did I say parents know anything about tech? Personally, I am the one helping my father with tech issues, he doesn’t do anything to help me or persuade my opinion, unless of course I need help with visual things, which isn’t often.
In fact, he asked me multiple times if I was sure I wanted to upgrade from an Android to an iPhone.
He didn’t force it.
CloudyBeep 1 points 1y ago
Please explain how Android has better support for braille displays. They don't support any new braille displays including none that connect through the new HID standard, and as far as I know do not support the entry of contracted braille.
Please also explain which iOS apps Apple charges for. To my knowledge, they're all free.
It's perfectly fine to voice an opinion, but it is unethical to spread misinformation.
Please also explain which iOS apps Apple charges for. To my knowledge, they're all free.
It's perfectly fine to voice an opinion, but it is unethical to spread misinformation.
pictouguy 2 points 1y ago
I'm not sure where you learned to use braille but where I come from, contractions are taught in grade 2 braille. Android does in fact support it as of 2020.
Edit: I've been advised that the term grade 2 braille is no longer used and has been replaced by UEB - Unified English Braille.
Edit: I've been advised that the term grade 2 braille is no longer used and has been replaced by UEB - Unified English Braille.
CloudyBeep 1 points 1y ago
I stand corrected about braille input. But the fact remains that they do not support many new models, and braille support on Android lacks many of the features of braille support on iOS.
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