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Any skiers here? (self.Blind)
submitted by Blazefication
Hi. I'm going skiing with some friends this weekend, and I wanted to reach out and get advice from some fellow VI skiers in this group.

The way I've skied before is by having the guide in front of me carry a backpack with loudspeakers on their back and I'd follow the sound, but this time I'd have to buy my own speakers and set them up to be ski-worthy since I'm not going with the same people as the last time.

Does someone here do the same and have some advice to give? I'm not sure how loud the speakers should be. I was looking at a stereo set of 6wats per speaker but I'm afraid if that'd be too quiet. I'd also have to edit the music to have a beep which could be heard over the music. Here's a video from me skiing with this set-up as an example, and I'd welcome recommendations for a louder sound which I could use to be heard from a distance :)

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MalcolmYoungForever 7 points 1y ago
I love your attitude! I had a buddy who was totally blind in his right eye and only had a little vision from the corner of his left eye. He did everything he wanted to do. Sadly he passed a few years back.

You just keep chugging along like a locomotive my friend!
Blazefication [OP] 3 points 1y ago
Thanks for the nice words :) and rip to your friend :( may he rest in peace
OldManOnFire 5 points 1y ago
A day on the slopes sounds like fun!

I'm not sure I'd want louder speakers than 6 watts. You've skied before so you know how quiet the world is at high elevations and how far a voice carries. Be considerate, you're not the only one on the slopes, and depending on where you go there's the danger of a sound triggered avalanche. We all wore Sony Walkmans on ski trips back when they were cutting edge technology because no one listening to Pat Benetar wanted to hear their neighbor's Charlie Daniels and because the silence of the mountain was almost sacred, not to be disturbed more than necessary. I think a cheap Bluetooth speaker would be more than enough to let me know where my friend is.

Also, why add a beep?

A month or two ago there was a blind Paralympic skier doing a Reddit AMA. It was cross posted to r/Blind. I can't remember her name but you might find something helpful in her AMA.
Blazefication [OP] 5 points 1y ago
Thank you for the reply :)
I think the speakers I used before, the same ones from my instagram video were less than 6 watts, and the music was lost in the wind more than a few meters ahead. To be clear, it could be heard, but it was more difficult to orient, and that's the reason for the beep.
The people that tought me to ski, a blind guy and his guide, told me that they experimented with various edited sounds and found out that that specific beep (it's the sound of a dial pad like pressing 6 5 on a phone) caried farthest in the wind and was able to be heard and was easier to gauge the direction of from a distance.
heitorrsa 4 points 1y ago
Dope! You are cool man!!
Blazefication [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Haha thanks! Just trying my best :)
akrazyho 3 points 1y ago
I’m super jealous and I’m gonna suggest something I saw on here a while back ago. Why not use a rope or a tether or a bungee like the one they use to tow cars with. This would be more of a back up but I just thought I would suggest it.
Blazefication [OP] 1 points 1y ago
That's actually an interesting idea, will bounce it to my instructor
bondolo 3 points 1y ago
FRS radio headsets with vox (automatic) microphones are commonly used for skiing and even water skiing. Now days you might just use mobile phones.

There's some debate as to whether the guide should go ahead or behind of the blind skier. Having a guide both ahead and behind would be ideal. Ahead has the advantage that they can see upcoming obstacles and navigate the course better but can't keep track of the skier and can get too far ahead. Behind has the advantage of being able to better monitor the blind skier and catch-up as needed but requires slower skiing as the guide can't give as much detail about the upcoming course or obstacles.
Blazefication [OP] 1 points 1y ago
Thanks! I'll be looking at purchessing a headset with vox for the next time I do this, but this time around I'll just be using the loudspeaker method with a guide in front. I've tried both methods, a guide behind and a guide in front and the second option was much much better for me.
TechnicalPragmatist 2 points 1y ago
Definitely one thing I have yet to try.
cebeezly82 2 points 1y ago
Hell nah, only skis you'll see me on his water skis
guitarandbooks 2 points 1y ago
Totally blind here... I only cross country skied but the guy in front of me would just call back directions from time to time. Downhill skiing is a different story though I know! I'm thinking an in-ear bluetooth solution may be the way to go...
r_1235 1 points 1y ago
We don't get snow in our country, accept in extreme north. And, I have never skied yet. So yeah, Super jealous of people who get to ski regularly.
Tarnagona 1 points 1y ago
I went skiing once, crashed into a fence, and knocked myself unconscious (apparently, I also broke the fence). Honestly, my guide shouldn’t have taken me on that slope because I was a super beginner, and it was above my skill level, but I didn’t learn that until afterwards. I remember him skiing close by and giving me instructions, which worked well when I was on a reasonable hill. But I do have some usable vision, so that’s a factor. Also that was in high school, and I haven’t been downhill skiing since.
DrillInstructorJan 1 points 1y ago
I have snowboarded in the past. The advantage is that you can have two people facing one another, and you can link both arms for both guidance and support when you're a beginner, so long as you have someone who doesn't mind riding that way around if that's their preference.

Bear in mind it is possible to get road rash from falling on certain kinds of snow that feels more like a bed of very fine icy gravel than fluffy white soft stuff.
Blazefication [OP] 1 points 1y ago
I've never snowboarded, only skied, but I might have the chance to try it next week :)
DrillInstructorJan 1 points 1y ago
Go for it and let us know how it goes!
r_1235 1 points 1y ago
I think Sam from blind life youtube channel, and Molly berk also did some videos on skiing.
Blazefication [OP] 1 points 1y ago
I'll look them up!
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