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Full History - 2022 - 01 - 17 - ID#s6cytb
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Silly/dumb/hurtful things (self.Blind)
submitted by Key_Hedgehog_5773
48m, legally blind since birth. I certainly do not mean to set a truly negative tone, but consider this a rant/vent post.

It’s astonishing to me how hurtful people can be. Kids, I sort of understand, they rarely have working filters. But adults have this problem too, especially on the internet( though that’s a different topic entirely…)

As an extremely near sighted child of the ‘70s and ‘80s, my Rx was good enough to correct to 20/100. To do that the lenses were thicker than the typical coke bottle glass, and ground in such a way that if I looked to the outer edges, I could see behind me.

‘4 eyes’ wasn’t good enough, kids in my school took it to ‘16 eyes’.


I started to wear hard contact lenses in the 6th grade after a significant meltdown ( one too many comments by someone earned them a desk to the face).

The contacts helped a bit, but then I had other problems. I never learned cursive, hand eye coordination was terrible. My print was almost worse. The Nebraska Association of the Blind was able to furnish me with a computer ( Apple 2e) and monitor, which stuck with me through senior year.
6th grade teacher decided one day to rearrange my computer cart, moving the monitor to the side so SHE could see it. I moved it back, as I couldn’t actually use it like that. Consequently I was sent to the Principal for ‘being a disruptive influence’. Parents came in, sat in the Principal’s office with the teacher, heard the whole tale. I sat in the corner being defiant :). Stepdad to teacher ‘are you a fucking idiot? Why would you move the screen so you can see it? It’s for him to be able to succeed, not you!’. She did not deal with that very well, that year sucked.

All through school I dealt with that, eventually got better because I was able to sort of hide that I couldn’t see shit. High school teachers were aware and actually helped often with larger print or sending me to the computer lab to work.

I’ve spent the intervening years doing IT work at various places, I still catch snide comments from people when I ask them to zoom the eye chart presentation they’re sharing. I just ignore it at this point, though. Eventually I’ll be let go, at which point I’ll have a nice discussion with HR :).

The point of this topic, and the actual example of people being clowns: I was working for a telco in downtown Denver in the mid ‘90s, as a consultant. I had an annual review with the consulting company after the first year. One of the comments they made stuck with me ‘Your coworkers say that you are not very friendly, you don’t look at them. And when they see you in the hallways and wave, you don’t acknowledge them’.

Which is fine, so far as it goes. I don’t use a cane, there are no outward signs of a disability. It still struck me as out of line though, to be effectively written up for.

These days I likely should have a cane, my vision has steadily gotten worse( totally blind in one eye, 20/209 corrected in the other). I’ve started the process, difficult during pandemic, and I need to get over some pride problems I have.

What are some of your experience s in this space?
petite4eyes 9 points 1y ago
I had a very similar childhood experience with the glasses. That’s why I’ve been in therapy for most of my life. I also wore a hard plastic back brace for scoliosis. I have hated myself and my body ever since and have struggled with an eating disorder for the past 12 years.
On the bright side, these adverse experiences are what propelled me to work in pharmaceutical and medical device policy. If I can do something to make it easier for the next folks in line, it will have been worth it. My advice to you is to find a great therapist and channel your sadness and anger into something positive.
Anyways, I know how hard it is. I’m so sorry, friend.
Key_Hedgehog_5773 [OP] 6 points 1y ago
All good, thanks for the words. I did some time in therapy myself,along with a round of meds that did me no end of harm (3 months on, almost a year to get off). I’m glad you found a worthy role!
petite4eyes 6 points 1y ago
Glad I’m not alone there. It takes a toll, being different.
Key_Hedgehog_5773 [OP] 3 points 1y ago
Arguably, now that I’m vaguely mature, I relish it. As a child it was hell.
bradley22 6 points 1y ago
I don’t have a job, I do live in London however and the first thing I thought when I read about your review was that such an American thing to be told about.

I’m not saying the UK is unfriendly, it’s just that I highly doubt you’ll be told off for not smiling or waving here.
I hope you can get a cane and learn how to use it.
FlirtatiousMirror 4 points 1y ago
Having a visible visual impairment is quite the fun too. People label you just by glancing, and then every interaction that follows is condescendence and the thought of you being mentally capable of (much) less just because you're so explicitly different from the norm.

The more hurtful it is when it comes from your own parents or family. Nowadays I just question if it's me who's in denial.
letspaintthesky 4 points 1y ago
Oh yeah, to be written up for not seeing someone standing way over there when you're blind is pretty shit. I missed someone I know waving and saying hello the other day because I couldn't see her face-I didn't realise who she was or that she was talking to me.


Perhaps time for a passive-aggressive pin on your shirt at work 'I have low vision' or 'vision impaired person'...or, to be funny 'if you can read this, I can see you'?
Key_Hedgehog_5773 [OP] 5 points 1y ago
I thought about an led blinky hat that spelled out ‘blind’ with an arrow pointing down…
letspaintthesky 5 points 1y ago
LMFAO!


What about an obnoxiously over-sized pair of sunglasses? Like, carnival prize type big?


Or a sign in the direction of the person who had you written up that says 'I can't fucking see you, genius' in your local braille language?
Key_Hedgehog_5773 [OP] 5 points 1y ago
Funny thing about that, I get automated, paper!, Christmas cards from that company. I haven’t worked there since ‘96.

Wife bought my son a gag gift pair of shark sunglasses for Xmas this year, maybe those’ll do.
letspaintthesky 3 points 1y ago
Oooh! A braille t-shirt that says 'I'm with sighted' ;)
Criptedinyourcloset 4 points 1y ago
In elementary school I was always known as the blind kid. And even when my middle school I still get that. Like, it wasn’t O, there’s Cryptid in your closet. It was oh, there’s the blind kid. It was incredibly hurtful and I hated it.
Key_Hedgehog_5773 [OP] 7 points 1y ago
Indeed. I love MY kids, I despise everyone else’s. And am firmly aware my kids can be assholes. I sincerely hope having me as their dad has at least taught them a little sensitivity. Plot twist, my MiL is blind and mostly deaf, so they experience all kinds of ‘sensitivity training’ at home.

Labels and stereotypes rule the world, sadly. It takes a lot to get past the bullshit, both for ourselves, and our willingness to be put in that semi vulnerable space.

Are things better now, or just the same shit of people judging by a single trait?
dunktheball 4 points 1y ago
Someone on here (not this sub) told me that it wouldn't make sense for any woman to want to date me instead of "someone normal" because he saw where I said I don't drive due to my vision...

Your comment about them thinking you're ignoring them when they wave is what I've ALWAYS been afraid would happen with me. if someone KNOWS you have a vision problem then only an idiot would think it's you ignoring them. lol. I am just worried someone who doesn't know I have bad vision will think it.
Key_Hedgehog_5773 [OP] 6 points 1y ago
The no driving thing can be a bear to deal with. Me, I look at it as supporting Uber and Lyft drivers now. I’ve been married >20y, my wife likes to say she knew what she was getting into, and she did. Still hard though, with transporting kids. Or personal freedom to go somewhere and not be REQUIRED to rely on someone else. I had a license for 4y, via bullshit and chicanery and a doctor that played with allthethings to pass me on a vision test ( with stipulations). Gave it up when I left Denver, was just too dangerous. Now? Haha, no.

I was filling out the obligatory COVID questionnaire a week ago, can’t read print any more. Wife is now insisting I get mobility training so I CAN carry a cane, since, as you say, no one would know you can’t see.
dunktheball 5 points 1y ago
They were trying to get it where I could be allowed to drive also and I had a feeling they'd do those same things and before I even got through it all I gave up because I was worried about it. So I've never driven. And yes the part that is frustrating is when you want to just have the freedom to get up whenever and go drive somewhere. I hate depending on relatives and so far i haven't started with uber. That is at least a good option, just extra cost. But then again... we save by not having car expenses.

A lot of similarities here because someone was saying maybe I should have a cane, just to tip people off, also. people can really never tell at all I have a vision problem unless they were to ask me to read something or ask a question about some details of an object.
Key_Hedgehog_5773 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Quite similar, yes. In my case i would be flat lying if I didn’t admit to it being partially pride. Which is ridiculous, but there it is.

For instance, when I turned 40 I decided it would be cool to teach myself how to airbrush. Did okay, too, but … so much frustration. My wife is amazing in 99.99% of things, but would point out errors. Or “that’s a cool texture!” When it wasn’t supposed to have texture…
DrillInstructorJan 3 points 1y ago
Can I suggest we found the uber drivers appreciation society?
Criptedinyourcloset 5 points 1y ago
I have exact opposite problem. I end up waving to people who are not even talking to me. Whenever I’m in a crowded room, I just wave around me for good measure.
dunktheball 3 points 1y ago
lol. I seriously have thought about doing that and I sort of do it sometimes. Would be funny if I accidentally wave at a lamp or something and people see it.
oncenightvaler 3 points 1y ago
This one time I was going to a new doctor's office, and the receptionist said to me "There's some paperwork to fill out, do you have an aid with you to help you with that?"

I was kind of too sarcastic and said "Do you see anybody with me?"

I then politely asked if the receptionist could take a few moments when she was free and read over the paperwork with me. I could tell that the receptionist was very annoyed with that suggestion and said that it was not her job, nevertheless I got it filled out, and it was really simple, only asking for my contact information, something they could have asked for over the phone.
Bubbly-Duck3232 3 points 1y ago
Are you still in Nebraska? I’m from Omaha!!
Key_Hedgehog_5773 [OP] 3 points 1y ago
Naw, left in ‘94, spent some time in CO, CA, TX and now WA. Where in Omaha?
Bubbly-Duck3232 3 points 1y ago
I lived in the Millard neighborhood.
Key_Hedgehog_5773 [OP] 3 points 1y ago
As did I, went to Miljard South.
QuentinJamesP89 2 points 1y ago
I've worn glasses since I was a baby, and feel weird without them. I got made fun of a little, but I always liked wearing glasses because I felt that they helped hide my weird eyes a little -- I got made fun of much, much more about being cross eyed. Thankfully the name calling goes away completely when you grow older. It's hard as a kid, though. Kids are mean, even when it's just thoughtless and not actually hateful. I eventually just came to accept the name calling and tried my best to take it more as affectionate teasing than meanness. Even so I've been self conscious about my eyes all my life and still am at 32.

As I've lost more vision I have found that social interactions have gotten way harder. Things like not being able to recognize people and having no idea who is talking to me, not being able to read body language, and most of all not being able to seek people out and mingle at large gatherings are extremely difficult and isolating.
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 1y ago
When you walk down the road and someone asks you do you have your guardian with you? I am totally blind and the condescension is pretty bad including a partially blind guy I dated.
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