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Full History - 2022 - 01 - 23 - ID#sasrod
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niamhweking 37 points 1y ago
Assuming blind means fully blind, only 10% of blind people are fully blind, most have some form of sight, light perception, movement, etc

I've seen people claim blind people aren't really blind cos they're not using a cane, or are using a phone.
Criptedinyourcloset 16 points 1y ago
Me and my friends at my blind school ones had a beautiful opportunity to put a bunch of cited kids in low vision simulators were being jerks. Let’s just say, their views on blindness changed quite a bit after the day was done.
DHamlinMusic 13 points 1y ago
I would like to add on to this point, assuming because you are not totally blind that you obviously can see or have awareness of something without actually knowing if you do or not.

Additionally, assuming that your white cane is an invitation to grab it and use it as a leash.
Criptedinyourcloset 18 points 1y ago
Yes. Mind you, I was at the deaf and blind school of my state when this happened. With my group of death students for a hiking club and apparently I was walking too slow. So, the completely deaf lady that was going with me decides to grab the end of my cane,and pretty much drag me all the way back to the car. Mind you, we were walking through rough terrain so I was super terrified because I did not know what was going on for the whole time. This torture pretty much continued for 10 minutes till we reached the car and the only person in the group who could hear told me what happened. I told my grandma and shepretty much chewed them out. It still makes me angry to this day.
PrincessDie123 3 points 1y ago
I don’t usually condone hitting people but if they are putting me in danger like that sometimes I’ll “accidentally” flick the cane tip in their direction to get them off of me.

Edit: not enough to really hurt them just enough to bump and ankle or something, I’ve only had to do it once thankfully.
Criptedinyourcloset 3 points 1y ago
Oh yeah, totally. If I would’ve known what I do now I definitely would’ve done that, but I was a little third grader, that shit is scary.
PrincessDie123 4 points 1y ago
Yes I had someone trying to help me find a room in a hospital once that decided grabbing my cane hand was the way to go so I planted my feet and mustered a “nonono stop”, my usual response to that kind of fright is complete silence so I couldn’t say more than that until they paused and looked back at me and I explained that they should never grab a blind person and grabbing the cane hand like that renders it useless and terrifying. I was okay but it took me like half an hour to stop shaking even though I could see enough to know the person was t trying to hurt me just the sudden feeling of losing control was an instant adrenaline rush.
DHamlinMusic 4 points 1y ago
I had a nurse once just grab my cane about halfway down the shaft Yank it up to waist height and then hold it like a leash and drag me around by it.
PrincessDie123 4 points 1y ago
Good lord I’m honestly shocked that medical professionals don’t know not to grab like that. If that happens again drop the cane and stand still until they listen to you.
ImpairedPhilosopher 11 points 1y ago
Yes! I’m so tired of this! People think because you’re not a walking stereotype, you’re not actually blind
xmachinaxxx 6 points 1y ago
Yes, THIS
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niamhweking 4 points 1y ago
Our neighbour has claimed many times, there is nothingnwrong with our daughter, that the doctors must have gotten it wrong :D

He's not saying we're lying, it's her ability that makes him think she's too capable for the diagnosis. Hope that's makes sense
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
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niamhweking 1 points 1y ago
Yes, no probs
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
Thanks!
NotUnique234 31 points 1y ago
Assuming that I’m “inspirational” for living my life.
Dudes, I’m literally just trying to survive- not doing anything different!

Also people who say stuff like “if I was blind I’d die!” (I can let it slide if the person doesn’t know I’m visually impaired but I’ve heard “friends” say it and it’s a real drag)
xmachinaxxx 15 points 1y ago
This too. Last year my husband and I were at a car dealership about to get a new vehicle. I can no longer drive but still enjoy being part of the process. The young salesman told me a couple times that I was inspirational to him. He meant no harm but it felt weird and uncomfortable for him to say that.
PrincessDie123 6 points 1y ago
Yeah truthfully I think that’s a real issue with how depressed some people get when they lose their sight, people don’t frame it as an opportunity to learn different ways of doing stuff and still enjoying it they tend to only focus on the things they lost like I get that it’s hard not to do that and I trip in that pitfall myself sometimes as my vision declines but I’ve also learned enough about how to adapt to know I’ll be able to find other things to do and enjoy even if I can’t see them. Change isn’t the end of everything it’s the beginning of something new so your life isn’t over when you go blind it’s just different.
DHamlinMusic 5 points 1y ago
I luckily have yet to experience being an inspiration, but that definitely sounds like it would be frustrating. I could definitely see myself having to resist the urge of whacking the person with my cave in response to that type of stupid comment, I can see the headline now inspirational man arrested for assaulting person with Kane.
Criptedinyourcloset 5 points 1y ago
Yeah, I agree. Like dude, I’m just some average guy living in an average world trying to live an average life. I’m not some motivational icon.
ImpairedPhilosopher 2 points 1y ago
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NotUnique234 2 points 1y ago
Sure!
DHamlinMusic 26 points 1y ago
Assuming it is okay to come into the subreddit and ask all sorts of stupid questions, or pitch their idea for an app/product that either is unnecessary or already exists, or attempt to use our community as guinea pigs for their school project.
ImpairedPhilosopher 9 points 1y ago
I’m hoping this is genuine and not passive aggressively aimed at me. I’m also severely visually impaired and I know how frustrating it can be when your intentions are questioned. On the other hand, I get the other side of it and wanting to be seen as more than just a statistic.
DHamlinMusic 15 points 1y ago
No you're good man, I don't do passive aggressive if I had a problem with your post you know it. That was more aimed at for example the person in here yesterday asking about dictation machines for themselves and their boyfriend both sided because they're too lazy to actually type.
ImpairedPhilosopher 9 points 1y ago
In that case, I really appreciate your comment. I’m trying to gather more answers on this so that I can carry it forward so if you have any other points, feel free to share. Much appreciated. 😊
DHamlinMusic 7 points 1y ago
Yeah the only issue I had with your post, and it's minor, is simply that there was no content just the title. Even if you haven't had a lot of things that you've noticed replying to your own question to start the discussion would have definitely been a good idea.
arond3 14 points 1y ago
Isn't there any sUrGeRy ?

This one is infuriating

What do you see ?

I don't know what people see normally so I see what I see.
SupermarketSweep 6 points 1y ago
I also find it really hard to explain what I can see with no context of other's vision. I understand why people want to know, but that's just really tough to answer. Often I will point out things I can see and others that I can't see but know most sighted people could, like a restaurant menu board.
ImpairedPhilosopher 5 points 1y ago
This. No matter how many times I get asked, I never have to right words to explain my vision because there’s nothing to compare it to.
x_Barnacle_671 14 points 1y ago
Why don't you get glasses? Worse than that is telling me how well Lasik worked for you or some you know. Or some other treatment that you should try next. Anyone who has gone through this has tried everything medically possible to save their sight, people assuming that somehow they know more about your condition than you do.

Like I just let myself loose my vision.
ImpairedPhilosopher 6 points 1y ago
If I had a pound for every time someone’s suggest Lasik, I’d probably be able to afford it. It wouldn’t do anything for me but id still be rich enough for it, lol!
SupermarketSweep 5 points 1y ago
Yes, this one. Like, gee, after years of public school, doctors' visits, work in healthcare offices, and meeting people who wear glasses, I never thought of that.
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
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x_Barnacle_671 2 points 1y ago
Of course. Thank you for asking.
OldManOnFire 8 points 1y ago
Maybe I'm just too new at this but none of the things mentioned in the comments bother me.

Sure, people don't understand why I can walk through a sunny parking lot without a cane, avoiding the parked cars and stepping up on the curb when I reach it, then deploy my cane as soon as I step inside the darkness of the store. I don't see that as a hassle, I see it as an opportunity to teach.

Same with the stoopid questions we get here. They're stoopid to us because we've lived through it, but if I got on a subreddit for professional tennis players they'd all think my questions were stoopid, too. I just see it as an opportunity to tell my story and to replace ignorance with empathy.

Being an inspiration? That's a title I'll gladly accept. I've been inspired by many, many people, ordinary people who kick ass and show me how much potential I have if I put my mind to something and don't give up. Their examples have led me to change my life for the better. Why wouldn't I want to do the same for someone else? I don't know your struggle, I don't know how hard it is for you to get out of bed and face another day without slitting your wrists, but if seeing me lean my cane against the wall and dance to some New Wave music helps you see the strength you forgot you had, then I'm glad I came dancing tonight.

There's a lot of ignorance and misinformation about blindness out there, but very little maliciousness. I could take offense where none was intended, but doing so would ruin my mood. It's just as easy to break the ice with a joke and spread some education instead.
PrincessDie123 6 points 1y ago
I feel similarly to you for me, though, it’s about the delivery of the question if people come up and ask me about my blindness that’s great what I dislike is when they start it with an assumption I’ve had many people come up to me and say things like “I seen you reading so you don’t really need that cane right?” And when I found the backseat of a car the other day and talking to the driver said that I’m blind he said “I don’t know you found the car pretty well you might just be pulling my leg.” Even my own dad told me that I didn’t need my cane when I first started using it. I appreciate it when people come up and ask “so I know the white cane means blindness but I’m curious because I also saw you reading things visually and I was wondering how that works?”

As for the inspiration yeah it’s nice if people feel inspired, it feels kinda weird to receive that because I’m just existing but if I can spread a little positivity into the world my minor awkwardness is okay.
ImpairedPhilosopher 2 points 1y ago
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PrincessDie123 2 points 1y ago
Yes, I’m okay with that.
ImpairedPhilosopher 2 points 1y ago
Appreciate it!
codeplaysleep 5 points 1y ago
Honestly, I want to empathize with this and feel this way and there are some days when I do, but after 40 years of stupid questions, accusations, and being "inspirational" I just don't have the mental energy for other people's lack of understanding, or to educate them otherwise.
OldManOnFire 1 points 1y ago
Understandable.

I raised eight children and taught math for a couple years so I guess I've developed an immunity to stoopid questions. And I've only been blind since July. You've obviously gone through a lot more in 40 years than I've been through in half a year. Maybe in time it will get to me but I'm trying my best to keep it positive.

I hope you find the mental energy you lost. Hang in there!
bradley22 3 points 1y ago
Edit: spellings.

Yeah; you make a good point.

Honestly I'm like this most of the time but sometimes it does get to me.
OldManOnFire 2 points 1y ago
It sometimes gets to me too, which is exactly why I have to continue.

Nothing's going to change unless we change it. Nobody's going to learn unless someone teaches them. On the days it feels overwhelming I ask myself "Do I want tomorrow to be like this, too?" That's what keeps me going.
bradley22 1 points 1y ago
True.
No-Satisfaction7842 3 points 1y ago
Honestly I should probably adopt your mindset otherwise you can let this stuff drive you crazy. No matter how many people you educate, there’s always going to be that next person who asks the same dumb questions or makes the same dumb assumptions. It’s inescapable
ImpairedPhilosopher 3 points 1y ago
Your perspective is very refreshing and greatly appreciated. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
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OldManOnFire 2 points 1y ago
You have my permission.
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
Much appreciated!
PaleontologistTrue74 7 points 1y ago
I hate the assumption That after losing one of our senses we have super powers.
BlindGirlSees 7 points 1y ago
People assuming I can’t go up and downstairs. I think you got your disabilities confused again, my friend!
ImpairedPhilosopher 7 points 1y ago
This! And when people talk slowly to you.
Criptedinyourcloset 7 points 1y ago
My favorite quote when somebody does this. I am blind not stupid.
ImpairedPhilosopher 2 points 1y ago
Gonna steal that one
PrincessDie123 7 points 1y ago
Or loudly haha I’ve noticed that a lot of people get blind and deaf backwards… like a *lot* of people and I always wonder why that is. I have some hearing impaired friends who often get handed Braille menus and I often get asked if I do sign language and I have to say “I wanted to learn but I can’t really use it because I can’t see well enough what the other person is signing”
ImpairedPhilosopher 5 points 1y ago
Unbelievable! I wish people would just stop for a second and think!
PrincessDie123 3 points 1y ago
Haha yeah but we live in an age of instant gratification no thought pondering required
BlindGirlSees 2 points 1y ago
Or like you are a small child. With that high-pitched voice and everything.
bradley22 2 points 1y ago
Oh god, I've had this happen to me.

I think the person said they were lazy, I brushed it off back then but it's like, so because you're lazy you think I should be too? Come on!
BlindGirlSees 1 points 1y ago
Same. Exact same scenario.
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
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BlindGirlSees 2 points 1y ago
Use away.
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
Thank you!
Tarnagona 5 points 1y ago
"Can I pray for you?" or "Jesus will heal you." from total strangers. It's one thing if you're in church and someone asks to pray for you, because that's a thing you do at church. It's another thing entirely if it's just someone on the street. Please stop assuming that I am suffering terribly, and let me run my errands in peace.
No-Satisfaction7842 4 points 1y ago
As American society increasingly becomes less religious I am thankfully getting less of that, but it happened all the time in the 90s. I understand these folks mean well, and from their perspective they are just trying to offer what they think is helpful, but it’s really offensive. It suggests that I’m broken or sick, neither of which is true.
Tarnagona 2 points 1y ago
Actually, I’m Canadian. It’s not something I get often, but it frustrates me so much every time it does happen. I can only imagine how much more frequently happen to someone living in a very religious place like the American South.
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
This, 100%. Like, appreciate the well wishes but my vision is the last thing you should be praying for, lol.
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
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Tarnagona 2 points 1y ago
Go ahead.

I think offers of prayer come mostly from a well-meaning place, but have within them the underlying ableist assumption that blindness is nothing but a source of misery, and every blind person desires nothing more strongly than full sight. It is true that many blind people do want full sight, especially those who had sight previously (everyone's sight loss journey is different, and I want to acknowledge that). But it is absolutely ableist to assume that a blind person is prevented from attaining happiness because they are blind.

And again, I'm talking about total strangers approaching on the street. If you're at church, or in a Bible study, or other religious group, offers of prayer make sense and are appropriate. Likewise, if you have a friend that sees you're struggling, and wants to offer you comfort. I can appreciate those prayers in the spirit in which they are offered (even though as an atheist, I don't think they're going to do much good). But I have very little patience for people accosting me on the street, no matter how well-meaning.
Tarnagona 2 points 1y ago
Also, twinsies!

I also have achromatopsia.
ImpairedPhilosopher 2 points 1y ago
I agree. There’s a time and place for everything.

Thanks for letting me share this and omg, twins! It’s so rare to find other people with achromatopsia! We’re a rare breed 😂
No-Satisfaction7842 4 points 1y ago
“Are you really blind?” No. I just carry this cane around because I think it’s fashionable. Come on!
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
I used to get a lot of that in school and never knew what to say
QuentinJamesP89 4 points 1y ago
I get a bit tired of people saying that because I wear glasses I'm not "really" blind.
ImpairedPhilosopher 2 points 1y ago
Hate this. So ignorant when people say these kind of things
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
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QuentinJamesP89 1 points 1y ago
Sure.
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
Thanks!
Splatoon-U 4 points 1y ago
My whole family seems to think I live in the dark and can't see. I have vision, I use my phone close to my face, they question me every time I'm on it, if I'm blind why/how can I use my phone with no trouble. I also don't know, I mean I use a long cane and I feel safer with it but I'm always wondering if I have too much vision to need to be using it, how would I know the answer to something like that?
ImpairedPhilosopher 3 points 1y ago
I’m so sorry. Remarks like that are bad enough coming from strangers but I can’t imagine how much it must hurt coming from family.
Splatoon-U 3 points 1y ago
I'm used to it but it does suck, I don't mind the jokes, I joke about myself too, none of them are hurtful it's our way our showing we care and it's always been like that. I don't even both trying to correct them anymore it's a waste of my time, I know what I can do and what I can't with my vision.

Edited to remove a line so it doesn't get seen by anyone to link back to me.
ImpairedPhilosopher 3 points 1y ago
Honestly, being as emotionally independent as you can is the best way forward. Kudos to you!
ImpairedPhilosopher 2 points 1y ago
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Splatoon-U 2 points 1y ago
Could you possibly not say my user name I don't want anyone I know to see it or link it to me, please.
ImpairedPhilosopher 2 points 1y ago
No problem at all. I’ll block your name out. I just want to share it because the message is really important. But don’t worry. It won’t be linked back to you in any way.
Splatoon-U 2 points 1y ago
Thank you.
NeuroticNomad 4 points 1y ago
"Is it like Daredevil"

No.

Are you like Iron Man or Hawkeye?
ImpairedPhilosopher 2 points 1y ago
Not gonna lie, I’d love for someone to compare me to Daredevil, lol!
SoapyRiley 3 points 1y ago
Assuming that any person with me is my caregiver and talking about me as if I can’t hear them. Guy in an antique store decided I couldn’t get around myself and started talking to my (much deafer than me) friend telling her to watch me and stuff. I wanted to scream “she is not my chaperone!” But I was trying to be polite.
ImpairedPhilosopher 2 points 1y ago
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ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
People can be so awful and ignorant. I’m sorry you had to deal with that.
I_Am_Terra 3 points 1y ago
That I can’t run unassisted.

Background: I’m a track & field athlete who also has Cerebral Palsy. My CP affects me more than my vision (still pretty severe but enough to stay in my lane) so therefore I’m classified under my physical classification.

So Sydney (Australia) held the Invictus Games back in 2018, and I was invited as part of a demonstration relay with a whole bunch of CP athletes. I’m pretty familiar with the venue as it’s my home track and has held almost every major state and national meet since I’ve been in the sport. But I used my white cane to escort myself to the start line because the layout was very different to smaller comps (also it was run in reverse down the 100m straight🤢. Now the whole event is basically centered around disabled veterans, so surely the organisers/volunteers would know how to deal with somebody with if not one, but multiple disabilities. The buzzer went off (wasn’t a starting gun because of PTSD concerns) and I didn’t know what to do. I wasn’t running until the third leg so I had to think for a while. Ended up throwing my cane onto the side of the track and bolting up to tag the 4th runner in frustration.

Now I know the organisers didn’t know my circumstances entirely, but surely there would be some common sense?
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
Is it okay if use this comment in a video about what to avoid saying to a blind person? Your story is really insightful
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
Firstly, you’re a badass!

Secondly, thanks so much for sharing this. I’m with you. It’s crazy that events like this don’t think these things through! All it takes is a quick conversation but sometimes people won’t even do the bare minimum.
ThisBlindChickReads 3 points 1y ago
The assumption that one blind person is like ALL blind people ... We are individuals who have different experiences. We are not the same and we don't know this other blind person you were talking to the other day, nor will we instantly become best friends if we are introduced just because we both happen to be blind.
bradley22 3 points 1y ago
Exactly!
ImpairedPhilosopher 2 points 1y ago
This, 100% agree!
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
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Alaisha 2 points 1y ago
I hate all the questions asking us how we know when we are done wiping after going to the bathroom. Blah!!! Or assuming we feel faces.
ImpairedPhilosopher 1 points 1y ago
Right? So childish!
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