My girlfriend is legally blind, I am sighted. We're at the point in our relationship where she would very much like for us to get married and move in together. I love her, and I think that she has many wonderful qualities - for instance, I greatly admire her warmth, kindness, and optimism. We have a lot of fun together, and in many ways we're compatible. But, when I think about getting married, I have a lot of anxiety because there's so much that I have to do for her, and I'm afraid of becoming resentful.
She has a career that she's very good at. She can walk to some places that she knows in the neighborhood, but I think it's pretty scary and/or uncomfortable for her, and she'd much rather I go with her everywhere. She doesn't want to use a cane or guide dog. She doesn't know how to use voiceover and is unenthusiastic about learning it. She can do some things on the computer using zoom and text to speech, but it's difficult for her. For instance, she's been trying to learn how to order groceries online, but it's been a struggle and so far she hasn't been able to do it without my help.
I've spent a lot of time trying to teach her how to do things, sometimes successfully, sometimes not. For instance, I was able to show her how to use the twist tie on a loaf of bread, and how to fold socks. I showed her how to use the speech controller on iOS and since then she hasn't asked me to read her texts. So I think we can gradually get to the point where she's at least a little more independent than she is now, but I think I'm always going to have to do a lot more than 50% of the work in the relationship.
If you're in a marriage where one person is blind and the other is sighted, I would really appreciate any advice or insight that you have on how to make things work so that the sighted spouse doesn't feel like they're overwhelmed or resentful and the blind spouse doesn't feel like they're constantly being judged.
bradley2223 points1y ago
This might sound harsh but if she doesn’t wanna try and do things herself, then perhaps you should sit down with her and say, if you wanna get married; then you need to start holding your own weight. I understand you love her, but sometimes people need to get a kick up the arse to get moving.
OutWestTexas17 points1y ago
You are wise to look at the long term. Why not just delay a marriage until the issues are resolved? There’s no rush. Maybe she can get mobility training and become more independent so that she could be an equal partner in the relationship.
xmachinaxxx14 points1y ago
Was she always legally blind and was cared for by her parents previously? Just curious.
My husband and I were already married for 21 years when I became legally blind. I wasn’t sure where your post was gonna go at first but I understand now that your gf definitely needs to start doing more for herself. You are right to be concerned about this. It’s time for some hard truths before you guys consider marriage. Even without the added pressure of her being VI, marriage is hard and takes work from both. She should get some life skills training and O&M, and you should hold her to it before moving forward with marriage imho.
throwaway36895496 [OP]9 points1y ago
She is legally blind from birth. She's in her mid-thirties and has lived independently for a long time. She works as a teacher and eats lunch at school. I assume before me she was doing a lot of takeout, delivery, and making simple things like pasta. She can get to/from appointments. Pre-COVID she was going to the gym several times a week for instance.
Her parents don't live locally, but they do a lot for her. They handle all the mechanics of paying her bills for instance. Her mom used to buy groceries but she stopped doing that, probably because I complained.
I think she wants to do more around the house. She likes making me coffee, and she likes to help me cook, although I have to find things and give precise instructions. But when things are hard for her she feels worthless and embarrassed. It's not a great dynamic.
Drop9Reddit14 points1y ago
Its great your doing your best to teach her. However this is also on her to want to learn.
As well there are great resources out their like O&M (Orientation and Mobility) Teachers who focus on travel or Independet living skill teachers who focus on household skills and technology.
As someone who is married it is crucial to be able to communicate with your partner and you both have to understand this is a two way street. Without that you are not starting on the right foot.
Vicorin10 points1y ago
Showing her to use a twist tie and fold socks...
This isn’t a blindness problem, it’s a sheltering problem. It sounds she’s had people do every little thing for her for her entire life. those are such simple and small things that she had to be taught.
I encourage her to seek out any disability resources and training centers in the vicinity. She needs to learn how to use a cane, how to use technology, and basic life skills apparently. Just tell her you want to see her become more independent. You can’t help her with everything, and need to know she’ll be ok when you’re not around. It requires a lot of extra help on your part, and while you don’t mind reasonable assistance, she needs to meet you halfway whenever possible for the marriage to work.
akrazyho8 points1y ago
First off she needs to learn how to become a independent adult. There isn’t a lot she will need help with when she becomes an independent adult and learns how to accept her new way of life. This anxiety and nervousness you have isn’t something you shouldn’t not take lightly. It is something you need to be 100% comfortable with before you guys take the next step in your lives. Once she becomes more independent you guys should consider moving in together so that way you can figure out whether or not this will work out in the long run, but of course that is just my opinion.
Trust me I’m 100% in those shoes and I’m still trying to learn how to adjust to my new way of life, two years since I lost my vision.
She can get O and M training for free from the state. They can also teach her general life skills as a blind person. Learning how to use a cane will improve her life greatly, Quality of life. Trust me I understand where she’s coming from because I myself am terrified to go places without a cited guide.
Learning VoiceOver is going to be crucial to her overall happiness and quality of life. She can pretty much do anything she wants including ordering her groceries. A good place to start is going to the accessibility settings and setting the voiceover accessibility setting and setting it to the power button that way you can tap it three times and turn on and off voiceover with ease. This makes it very easy to turn off voiceover when she needs to hand the phone over to somebody in order to help her with it.
I suggest jumping on YouTube and looking for videos on the basics of voiceover for iOS. YouTube is a very accessible app and she can quickly learn how to use voiceover to navigate through applications and find and discover and search for things she likes on YouTube and other apps. It’s like the perfect training grounds. Once she learns how to use voiceover she’ll have full control for iPhone iPad and Mac there really aren’t any limits.
I am fully blind but I was able to respond to this post using voiceover on my Apple choice Reddit which happens to be Apollo
We are all here happy to help if you need any guidance
River-Song-19867 points1y ago
Sounds like she was super sheltered. A lot of good advice given already though. I grew up in a household that treated me like I had full vision and not partial. So, all of the independent living skills that I would need you were taught to me at the age of propria times. I grew up in a small town with no public transportation so when I was graduating from college and moving to my new city I did orientation and Mobility training with both of us system and a cane. My husband has full vision and we have an equal split of everything in the household. Although, he does all of the sweeping because that's a bit difficult for me LOL. It's about communication. Have you communicated to her how you're feeling?
r_12356 points1y ago
Wow! I like these kind of topics and reading them, ROFL, not sure why, I am single.
But, reading from OP's posts, seems like the girl needs a bit of professional help with training in usual blind skills, like mobility, technology etc. Not a big deal, if you 2 are young, learning new things is realy very easy. No idea where you might get those trainings, I am not from USA. I have a bit of experience in teaching assistive tech to old blind people, but, I think an in person training where the guy can guide her where to swipe on screen etc would be more suitable in this situation.
If she is a teacher, and a good one, I am sure she must be using screen readers and all? If not, wooooo! Hats of to her, I want to know how she managed all that work without computers and phones.
And, cane training, I mean mobility training is a must must must! It is a life changer for many blind people, I am sure it will work for her as well.
This Youtuber, wait, searching her channel, yeah, got it, channel name is "Cayla with a C", she is blind, married to a sighted guy, check out her old videos on how they got together and made it work and all. Link below:
https://www.youtube.com/c/CaylawithaC
Simply_Limeade2 points1y ago
Good example. Cayla is pretty cool. Like her channel.
rumster5 points1y ago
After reading approved.
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
That doesn’t sound good honestly. A relationship should have a really good balance.
I had the opposite problem. I the blind woman was actually independent and willing to be. I was dating a actually high to mid partial though losing his vision and he was waaaaay over protective and wouldn’t let me go and treated me like a glass doll when there was no need. He assumed I couldn’t do it and did it for me. It was sort of stupid.
As I said to him I’ll say it here.
This is not a healthy relationship. There needs to be a balance. You’re hopefully not trying to date a parent or a child either way it goes. There needs to be a healthy balance.
The stuff you fear and write in this post is absolutely correct. In a sense I don’t think she’s ready for a marriage or a relationship. She. Needs to grow up and learn to be less dependent. She’s not leaving home to oh yeah, seek a new parent to latch on to. She needs to learn to be a grown up adult first then try to date someone.
A relationship goes both way and no one is any better. Either person shouldn’t be holding that they are better over someone’s head. Not saying you are, but in a sense she’s making you right here and playing the victim card.If she doesn’t want to grow up then she doesn’t want the relationship that badly and certainly not ready for it. You can’t date an adult sized kiddo.
OvateWolf1 points1y ago
It may be that your girlfriend has a lot of anxiety around travelling, and also learning to use things like a cane or a screen reader really drive home to the fact that you are visually impaired and whether you like it or not you have to do things differently to your site appears in some cases.
Also there are some people that just don’t want to be independent, and this is definitely true for sighted people as well.
However as she is blind the ways this will affect her will be different to a sighted person perhaps.
Even if you don’t plan to get married honestly you need to have a talk about this sooner rather than later as you both need to sit boundaries and decide what you’re comfortable with. It’s a very difficult conversation to have and one that does take some finessing, but I think it does need to happen regardless.
For example what happens if you become unwell or need to go out of town for something, is she just not going to function until you are back? She might need to step up and take care of you and there’s no reason why she can’t at least do some tasks as a blind person that you would do for her if she was unwell.
There’s nothing wrong with needing help for certain tasks or asking for it and admitting that you’re struggling, but there’s a balance and you also have to put the work in. Nobody can just sit on their bum and get everything handed to them, whether they’re disabled or not.
It may well be that in conjunction with mobility and assistive technology training she would benefit from counselling to help her understand why she is so uncomfortable and doesn’t want to do these things.
Personally when I noticed there is a blind person getting on with things using the cane or the guide dog I have much more respect for them than the person who refuses to use one and has to drag their partner everywhere with them, or who is constantly walking into things like an idiot because they refuse to use the tools available.
They can however be very complex psychological and social reasons for this though, which is why I’m suggesting some therapy might be helpful with her. Anyway best of luck with hashing this out.
Comacrin1 points1y ago
Some of those things sound more like basic life skills rather than low vision issues. I am blind and my wife is sighted. I lost my vision, but she’s always known me as a blind man. Unless she is severely low vision to where she can’t use magnification for long periods of time, I couldn’t really blame her for not wanting to become a pro/expert with screen reading software. That or if the vision is stable with no real worry of it deteriorating, I could understand some lack of motivation. I know when I was in the process of losing my vision, I didn’t “see” the need for Braille. Then of course things changed… we both work from home. I have a language interpretation agency and she does retail/wholesale arbitrage. most of my work is done online and over the phone brokering out interpretation appointments. Sometimes though, I’ll have to receive faxes or male from the state. While I could use all my assistive technology to scan OCR this and that, it’s just easier for me to ask her to read it to me real quick because I’m lazy like that. Same thing, if I have to fax something to the state, I could put it on the scanner, use OCR to do this and that, upload it to the computer and use a virtual fax… Or I could ask her to do it for me real quick on the fax machine. when we get a wholesale shipment in and when we have to drop off some packages off at UPS, I get to play pack Mule and load everything up in the Jeep and unload everything off and sherpa that crap into the UPS store. while I can more or less cook and know my way around the kitchen, nobody is going to be asking me to make Thanksgiving dinner. So she cooks and I do the dishes. I’m also in charge of the coffee in the house. From roasting to weighing to grinding the beans to brewing The coffee. I affectionately call her my Tesla. Who needs one of those fancy cars when you have a sighted spouse? Other than driving though, it really isn’t one specific activity that has to be exclusively done by a sighted partner per se. I mean sure, there are things she as a sighted wife to a blind mam she does for me like making sure this walkway is free or leaving that door closed or this or that… But I like to think she does those things because yes I can’t see, but balso because she cares about me and doesn’rit want me to trip over something or smack my face into something or hurt myself. The same way I’m 6-2 225 pounds and lift and move and reach for stuff that she can’t/shouldn’t try to because I am a bigger guy and I don’t want my smaller wife hurting herself trying to do things I know she probably can’t do. Back in college, I had an older professor who was a real ladies man. He never married though. Someone finally asked him why he never tied the knot. His answer always stuck with me. He said… “Because I never met a woman who didn’t either want to be my mother or my daughter.” everyone’s got baggage. Some more than others and for all sorts of reasons. Sounds like you should maybe have an honest heart-to-heart with your girlfriend about some of these issues and concerns.
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