At 33 years old and 6 weeks after giving birth to my third child, I got diagnosed with a genetic disorder that causes loss of central vision (Stargarts)(self.Blind)
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Pretty much like the title says. It took almost two years to receive a diagnosis, but I finally got diagnosed with Stargarts disease, a recessive genetic disease that causes progressive loss of central vision. So here I am, with 3 kids under 5 years old, trying now to deal with the slow loss of vision as well as deal with all the regular parenting crap. Does anyone have any advice on how to be a parent with visual impairments? I'm having serious anxiety about driving them around. I'm having trouble reading to my babies. I'm starting to not be able to see their faces. I don't even think I'm realizing the full impact of how this will affect the life I thought I would have as a parent, much less my own life. I had planned on going back to work after they were in school, or even going to grad school, and I don't feel like any of that is possible anymore. Any support is appreciated.
B-dub3111 points1y ago
My boys were 10 and 5 when my vision loss occurred. It makes things harder, but life goes on and you and they will adjust. My boys are so considerate of my vision loss and help look out for me.
We foster parented a few little ones (age 2 and below) and but it does make some things harder. Those little onesies with the legs that snap together are the worst when you can barely see what you're doing. And I always had to turn on the lights to do anything when pre-vision loss, I could have changed them in the dark. But a lot of it is motor memory.
My first and immediate suggestion is to see a low vision specialist. There are many products and technologies to help you along the way. And in retrospect, I should have went for mental health therapy too. Vision loss, even gradual, is a traumatic experience. Talking to someone might help ease your anxiety.
inviteonly [OP]3 points1y ago
Thank you so much. You're right, I am doing a lot of things by muscle memory and not even realizing it (I cut up a container of strawberries today and my husband looked at me like "How are you doing that!?!?") My oldest is 5 and is kind of starting to understand that I don't see as well, but it'll be a while before they really do. It's all still very new for all of us. I have been in therapy for a while now, so thankfully I'm already speaking with someone I like and plan to continue. Thanks for the advice!
sparkles_in_light3 points1y ago
Both of my parents are totally blind and they have been since before my birth. I can attest, as the child of VI parents, everything will work out okay in the end. The biggest "missing" piece of my childhood was a car but my parents still went out and we walked, or used public transportation. There were many taxi rides with trunks full of groceries. That taught me a lot about how to move around the city safely and independently which are skills I highly value. My mom has never seen my face but she stills sees me through touch, smell, sound, etc. She read braille children's books to us and we absolutely loved it. She'd also play audiobooks for us all to listen to while we did house chores. After my sister and I left the nest, she went on to get her Bachelor's degree in special education and her Master's degree. She now works for the state. There will be challenges - but as long as you continue to advocate strongly for yourself and your kids, it will be okay! The biggest thing my mom taught me was, "never give up! there's always a solution to the problem."
I know that doesn't fully address your situation and what you personally are going through but I wanted to share from the other side of it -- your kids will grow up well as you continue to give them all the love and encouragement that you always have
inviteonly [OP]2 points1y ago
Thank you SO much!!! I'm obviously pretty worried about the burden I'm going to be for my kids, so this was very helpful. They are still very small and don't understand....anything really lol But my 5 year old is starting to put it together and my 3 year old always counts all my pills in the morning. So I guess we're learning numbers and colors! :) Seriously though, I really appreciate your comment. It makes me feel like I can still be the parent I imagined I would be, even if my life isn't going to turn out how I imagined.
sparkles_in_light1 points1y ago
You absolutely can and will be a fantastic parent! Its not going to be an easy road, but the truth is -- your kids will normalize the situation quickly and they will be some of the strongest advocates when they're older. Best wishes on your family's journey. Feel free to reach out if you ever have questions. :)
x_Barnacle_6713 points1y ago
I have what the doctors call a "textbook" case of Stargardts disease. So welcome to the elite club. Good news is the disease is usually very slow to progress. So you adjust as you go. I am legally blind now but i was nearly 50 years old before it got that bad for me. Hopefully you will have many years of semi useable vision before lt is too limiting. Also it is unlikely that you ever go totally blind, and since your peripheral vision remains mostly intact you will likely not need to use a cane to walk.
The bad news is central vision is detail vision, doing things like reading letters and numbers will become increasingly difficult as the condition progresses. Strong reading glasses help but can do only so much. I also use a 6x telescope to see distance. This is invaluable to me but also had limitations. The worst part for me was having to give up driving. With any luck you will have a kid with a driver's license by the time you get there.
inviteonly [OP]1 points1y ago
Woo hoo, I'm in the club! :) But seriously, thank you. It helps me not feel so alone, since I'm the only one in my family who has this. So question - my doctor said I"d likely be legally blind but wouldn't spread to the rest of my eye. What does it look like for you then? If it doesn't spread to your peripheral vision, does it just become more pronounced until it's a heavy dark spot in your central vision all the time? How big does the spot get? I have lots of questions. Reading is already difficult, and driving is starting to become difficult because my depth perception is affected. However, I can muddle through pretty well and one of my eyes is still pretty intact so far so my brain fills in a lot for me.
ahawk2141 points1y ago
I am 36 and was diagnosed with Stargardt's when I was 9. I have about 20/300 vision. For me the photos you see online of what vision with Stargardt's looks like that show a dark spot in the middle of a photo is completely wrong. The way I describe it to people is it is like my field of vision is a computer screen and the closer I get to the center of my visual field the more pixelated the screen gets until there is just one larger pixel of light in the middle and that is my blind spot. If I look straight through my blind spot all I see is a light blur, not a black one. I am hoping to start a family soon and would be very interested to hear what things/products/tricks you have found work well and which don't. You sound like you are a great mom so don't stress too much! I second the therapy advice. In retrospect I wish my parents had sent me to therapy, but I was just a kid and they didn't know how hard it was for me because I did everything I could to hide it and not worry them.
inviteonly [OP]1 points1y ago
That's so interesting! I'm currently seeing a pixelated blind spot, not sure how much longer that will last. Unfortunately I'm having to learn all the tricks after having kids, I didn't notice any symptoms until about 3 months after I had my second child, and it took another 2 years before I got my final diagnosis (pandemic, genetic testing, etc). We are waiting for my husband's genetic test to come back to see whether or not we will need to get my kids tested. It's a little nerve wracking, but we will just have to wait and see. I already do a lot of "Tell me what you see" or "Tell me about it" when they say "Mommy look!" So I guess we're building vocabulary? :)
x_Barnacle_6711 points1y ago
No problem, it's nice to speak to another person with Stargardts. Only 1 in 100,000 people get this. It's double recessive so both parents have to be carriers. The interesting thing is that every eye doctor you meet for the rest of your life will want to look at your retinas. Apparently it's really cool to look at. Not so much from this side though.
As far as vision goes mine is like yours, my brain constantly tries to trick me into thinking that there is nothing wrong. When I look at a wall that's white all I see is white, I don't see the light switch in the middle of the wall until I move my eyes away from it. Then it appears in my peripheral like magic. This is why i stopped driving because things that are there don't appear to me until I look away from them. Imagine invisible cars. Also glare blindness is bad with this disease so head lights coming at me blind me completely. I would say when you can't read the big freeway signs anymore it's time to give up the keys.
My blind spot is hard to explain it's bigger when I look at something far away and small when i look up close. It about the size of a beach all at 6 feet, and the size of a mini Cooper at 30 feet. I hope that helps. The disease for me picked away at my central vision slowly kind of like slowly taking pieces out of a puzzle. At first I could still make out what the picture was even though some parts of it were missing but eventually there was too much missing and couldn't tell anymore.
My vision is still getting worse so I can't say how far out the blindness goes ultimately. All I can tell you is that at this point I can still see everything outside of my Blind spot pretty much normally. At this point that's.... Let's see if I make a fist and hold it about a foot in front of my face, then I stare at it, everything outside of that is not effected. I can cook, shave, watch tv (sort of), except for driving, reading or writing things are fairly normal.
I hope this was helpful, sorry so long winded.
inviteonly [OP]1 points1y ago
Omg that is exactly what I'm experiencing right now! Things disappear when they're in the blind spot and then reappear, which is why I have a lot of anxiety driving. Cars, stoplights, etc. I'm constantly moving my eyes up and down, back and forth. Thankfully bc of covid we haven't really been going anywhere, and my son's school is only 5 min away from our house currently. I have a "bull's eye" thing so it's a ring around whatever I"m looking at, and the ring is the blind spot. But in one eye the blind spot is slowly filling in the center. It's so weird to describe. I finally drew it out for my husband bc he didn't understand why I could see some things and not others. And the way you describe it being bigger and smaller depending on distance is exactly how I'm experiencing it too - I guess it's related to how focused your vision is? So if I"m looking at a house I can see the house, but if you asked me to look at something in the window of a house I wouldn't be able to see it. It's so frustrating. Thank you so much,. Two years ago when I first had trouble reading I really thought I was going crazy. So it's at least nice to know I'm not alone.
x_Barnacle_6711 points1y ago
It is so refreshing to have a conversation with some one who exactly understands what is so difficult to explain to people who haven't gone through it. Thank you for that.
Badassmotherfuckerer2 points1y ago
Sorry to hear you're going through this. I have no idea if my experience helps at all, but; I have LHON, which isn't Stargard's, but it does also result in loss of central vision, for what that's worth. When I first went to a blind rehabiliation school about 6-7 years ago, I felt really depressed and hopeless. The thing that helped me get out of that mindset and properly align my own expectations of my abilities, was meeting many of the instructors and administrators there. I knew several of the teachers there had Stargard's and even the leader of the center had Stargard's and had gone back to get their masters while supporting a family. Again, I don't know if that's helpful or not, but without being too involved in the blind community at the time I first lost my sight, I didn't know what to expect and how much I really could do. But meeting people who have attained fullfilling careers and were great at their jobs, just like anybody else helped me a lot at the time. Just knowing that there were a lot of people that have gone through the process of losing their vision and went on with their careers and families helped me out a lot. But it did take a lot of training and still does, so definitely see if you can get in contact with your state's department of rehab or similar service if they offer it, to best facilitate getting the training and equipment necessary.
inviteonly [OP]1 points1y ago
This IS helpful! In fact, it's a good reminder. I help support groups for moms with post-partum depression and anxiety (of which I experienced in and after all 3 pregnancies) and the number one thing we tell each other is "You're not alone." Thank you for reminding me that I am not alone in this journey either, and that finding others (in real life) with similar experiences is key.
ThisBlindChickReads2 points1y ago
My child was 3 when my vision loss started to impact daily life. I have cone rod dystrophy so, like with stargardts my central vision is going.
Reading with your kids: I could not read books to him so I downloaded book reading apps for kids. I gave my kid his own tablet at 4 and he loved finding books that we would read together before bedtime. The great thing about those apps is that they highlight each word as it speaks it aloud so he was reading much earlier than I think he would have had I not had vision loss.
Transportation: Public transportation is awful where we live but Uber and Lyft are options. However, the most important change that we made was making sure to live within 2 miles of schools and grocery stores. I definitely get my steps in! Each mile takes about 20 minutes. The farthest we walked to and from a school was 1.7 miles so about 45 minutes each way. It seems like a lot, and some days it is. However, I get to spend so much more quality time with my kid. When he was in elementary we would play word games (go through the alphabet and come up with as many words as possible that start with each letter. Make it harder by choosing a specific topic like animals, verbs, clothing). He is in middle school now and we talk about everything plus he has a much better understanding of traffic flow that only prepared him more for driving.
Seeing your kids' face:
This is a tough one and has brought me to tears many times. However ... I was honest with my kid and told him that one day my eyes wouldn't let me see him. As he gets older, he changed everyday and even though I can't really see his face, I can always pick him out of the swarm of kids coming out of the school or at his extra curriculars. I find that as fixated as I once was on "not" being able to "watch" him grow up, I haven't really missed anything. In fact my vision loss has created so many more bonding moments that I think would have been missed otherwise.
Other tips:
Make it a priority to go to a therapist on a regular basis. Being a parent is difficult on its own. Dealing with ongoing loss creates a whole other level of difficulty. Being able to talk to a professional is so important for this journey. I thought for the longest time I just needed to figure it out on my own. But, even though I have a great support system with my husband and family, the emotions that arise get unbearable. I almost destroyed my relationships because I had no idea how unhealthily I was "coping" with those emotions. A month after I made myself find time and money for therapy, my life became so much more manageable.
Enjoy the small things:
No doctor or scientist has found an accurate timeline of how much "vision time" we have left. I have researched and asked worldwide for this prediction. But vision loss is not a death sentence. There are so many ways to experience the life we have than with only our eyes. My kid and I love cooking and baking together (his job has always been measuring the ingredients ... Even when he was 4). We hike together and he makes sure I don't trip on branches and is amazingly good at communicating how steep an incline is.
One last piece of advice with school:
Communicate to the principal and your children's teachers that you have severe vision problems. Let them know that reading and checking their work is an impossible task for you. Give them the best way to reach you if they notice that your kids are struggling so that you can work together to find solutions. I have only had one teacher that did not understand how my inability to see my child's work created a disadvantage for my kid. That is how I learned to involve the principal as well. We have to be advocates for our kids and ourselves.
I hope this helps ... Feel free to reach out 💜
inviteonly [OP]2 points1y ago
Thank you so much for all of this. Parts of it brought me to tears - as I said, I don't think I've realized the full impact of this vision loss. Reading your experiences really made it real for me, in both good and bad ways. I appreciate your ability to put such a positive spin on the situation - finding all the bonding moments you have with your child. The tip about school is very helpful. Because my reading is starting to suffer I'm starting to have to speak up for myself more often and dealing with lots of emotions about that, but I know I'll get more comfortable the more I do it. Thank you so much for all of the advice and ways I can find the silver linings.
ThisBlindChickReads1 points1y ago
You are very welcome! I am actually in contact with my school district about making transportation more available to kids who have disabled parents. ( Ugh I hate using the word disabled ). There are many programs for children with disabilities, but not many for children with disabled parents. There is no way I would have said a word a few years ago, although now, I wish I would have. I am still learning that the only difficult conversations are the ones we don't have soon enough.
Honestly, feel free to dm me anytime 💜
KillerLag2 points1y ago
Definitely see a low vision specialist and see what tools they recommend. There are some magnifiers that can help with the reading. They may also recommended filters on your glasses, as people with Stargardt's disease may have light sensitive eyes.
inviteonly [OP]1 points1y ago
Thank you! I have been so busy with my infant and trying to get all my supplements in order that I haven't been able to dedicate any time to this yet, but I think I'm needing to make it a priority soon.
Andromeda_ademordnA2 points1y ago
I am so sorry you are going through this. I also got diagnosed with Stargardt's a little over a year ago. Although my child is 10 now, it's still sad to think about all of the things I will miss visually seeing in her life, like being able to see her participate in sports, seeing her at choir / orchestra concerts clearly, etc... BUT- I will be there for her every step of they way and show up, even if I can't see her. Videos and pictures are great for these scenarios so I can see her up-close, and have those memories stored.
Audiobooks are great for when reading becomes too difficult for you. A lot of libraries now have audiobooks that you can rent from as well.
I agree with what u/B-dub31 has said. Although I have not taken those steps yet, I know that soon I will need to start seeing a low vision specialist and seek therapy for this dramatic change. Also, seek support from your loved ones. They will be there for you to carry you through this difficult journey.
Just know that life will go on, and you will learn how to live your life in a different way, but it will be okay. School is still possible. Working is still possible. Don't limit yourself based off of your diagnosis. Overcoming this obstacle will make you stronger than you think.
Feel free to reach out if you want to talk.
inviteonly [OP]1 points1y ago
Thanks for the support!!! I will probably be reaching out from time to time. I've done a little research on services and screen readers and such, but I'm just not used to using it. And I can still see enough that it doesn't occur to me to use the reader on my laptop. I think it's going to be tough to get in the practice of using things like that. Thank you so much for the encouragement and support!!!
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
I don’t have a child myself and I am totally blind and have a totally different eye disease then you do.
However, I just want to say life does not end and you don’t really need to throw in the towel and give up just because you’re blind. I have been totally blind most of my life, no vision for just light perception and that’s about it, and before. Well not much vision to speak of honestly.
I am in my late 20s will be 30 this year.
Is school possible?
Yes, I have two associates in English and political science, and now decided to go back to school for stem major, compsci.
I’ve done a lot of advocacy work, and representing, teaching people how blindness works and about the tools that we as blind people use.
I have traveled by myself once in 6 different states across the country. All alone without much assistance, and I also did a lot.
Raising children is possible. Going to school later is also possible. And other things are too! Don’t give up!!!!! Keep living life. Doing your hobbies and interests are possible. You don’t change because your vision has. You don’t become a different person. And things sometimes just need to be adapted, even if you somehow later had no vision like myself.
inviteonly [OP]1 points1y ago
I'm sorry it took so long to reply to this....but thank you so much for the support! I am definitely in the beginning stages of dealing with losing vision. Just now starting to deal with the grief of losing a life I had thought I would live, not only for myself but with my husband and children. And it's definitely going to take time for me to recalibrate my expectations. But I appreciate all the reminders and support. It's hard to know what to expect, and because my vision is slowly degenerating, I can do most things just fine right now. I'm trying to prepare myself as much as possible, but I don't really need a ton of accessibility support at the moment. It's a strange line to straddle. Anyway.....thank you for the kind words! I will try to remember them as I continue this journey.
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
The life you thought you would live stil exist being blind does not preclude you from that. Sometimes my life despite being blind almost all of my life I went totally blind at 8 and didn’t have much vision to begin with before has maybe even shocked me.
You can truly do anything. What do you expect in life that would need vision? I would say learn to adapt and nothing should stop you, so don’t give up!
I’ve traveled across the country and back with no vision been to 6 different states. Haven’t lived a sheltered life. I did my 6 state trips by myself with minimal help.
I’ve been on local newspapers for being bold and brave and my decisiveness, basically not afraid to do and try things. Represented and advocated in multiple capacities since my teenage years.
I have 2 working on a third associates degree now in computer science.
Volunteer a lot, worked in accessibility and assistive technology, and generally seen on here by the researchers I work with to be fairly insightful on this stuff. I’ve even traveled to another country and walked around that city or set of 3 cities totally independently. It was a developed area though was at one time part of the british colonial oversights.
No I am not bragging here, maybe for you, but point is I say this to say please don’t think that way. It’s not the end of life and the expectations you have.
I challenge you to a minset of why can’t I do this even if I am blind? There’s a few things but they are more fewer than more numerous, that you truly can not do. You will just have to do it the blind way and adapt and adjust it. Be proud of it that you’re doing it that alternate way.
I traveled the world, what’s stopping you, blind people can and should, what other dreams do you have? Blind people can go to school, hold good jobs. I know a friend of mine, who runs a isp. He’s a blind guy from birth and have done pretty well in the business sector. If kevin can do it what’s stopping you?
You can believe you can’t and limit yourself sure but if you want it it’s out for the taking. Yes everyone is different but if you want it gold is there do you want to run the race?
Not trying to be mean either just encouraging. I have a post on here I will link it where I introduce myself and encouraged people on. Some of which I’ve said here.
If you need them you need the assistive support so when you get there don’t have any shame or thoughts of not using it.
And you shouldn’t have to adjust expectation of life. Sometimes as a pretty typical person I had to adjust expectations to be higher hahaha!
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences! I don't believe you are bragging at all. There are many people with total vision who have not accomplished as much, and you are right to be proud of all of it.
It is probably hard to differentiate, but when I say I am processing grief, it doesn't mean I hate losing my vision. In fact, this isn't even the first time in my life someone has told me I have an incurable health condition (I was diagnosed with epilepsy as a teenager). Going through the process of grief - denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance - is a very normal way to adjust. And it doesn't happen in a linear way either. I was in denial for a while, then acceptance, anger, depression, more denial, depression, acceptance, and so on.
The life I thought I would live doesn't really have anything to do with me. I always thought I would teach my kids to drive. I always pictured us reading books together at bedtime. I always wanted to watch them play sports or be in the marching band or on stage in a play or whatever. It's these little things that are changing, that are actually big things. And as others have been so helpful to remind me, I can still be a wonderful parent. But these are the expectations I have to change for myself. We play outside a lot, and I am constantly worried I won't be able to see a snake near us (this actually happened last week when we were swimming with friends at a river, a water snake was on a rock near us and I couldn't see it at all, thankfully it wasn't poisonous). I can't always see their cuts very well if they are hurt. There are moments when I can't see my children's faces across the room, and it's heartbreaking.
So I'm trying my best to just live in the moment. Some people (aka my mom) think you should know everything you can and be totally prepared for every scenario, but it's too much right now. I want to soak in as much as I can with my kids while I can, making memories with them the way I had imagined I would.
I'll look back at your comments when I need some motivation. I really do appreciate it.
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Not a problem.
I see that.
You can read books together at bedtime you can red braille and they can read print or you guys can enjoy a audio book or a tape together. You can still watch them do sports or in a marching band.
vip-sizzles1 points1y ago
I became legally blind at age 9 due to Stargardts & I'm now in my 40s. I had mostly 20/200 vision until my 30s. From what I've read, vision loss occurs slowly but learning to adapt will help you thrive. Research also suggests limiting your Vitamin A intake & sun exposure to help slow the progression. There is also a lady from the UK that I know has a support group & also received a diagnosis similar to yours. It's definitely an emotional journey but support will get you through it.
inviteonly [OP]2 points1y ago
Thank you so much! I asked someone else too, but what does your vision look like? I am noticing the center of my vision deteriorating, but how far does it spread? I already have contacts that are corrected for astigmatism as well (it's a -6 in both eyes), and I think that's why it took me so long to notice the symptoms of stargardt's , I just thought it was my poor prescription or astigmatism or something. I've been trying to avoid obvious sources of Vitamin A, and I'm on this regimen of supplements. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check out the group!
vip-sizzles1 points1y ago
I would say that my central vision is mostly gone now after 30+ years of the disease. I mostly just rely on peripheral vision. I still have some light perception though & can still move around without the assistance of a cane. I use to be able to still read text with a CCTV/magnifier but not any more. One thing I've learned is to simply focus on the things I can still do & that helps with staying productive. Here is the lady's website for support: Homepage - Katies Vision https://katiesvision.co.uk/
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