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Do I HAVE to feel bad for hitting people in the legs? (self.Blind)
submitted by redmarus
I've been adapting to cane use over the past few months but one of my biggest problems is people's complete willingness to walk right into me while staring at their phones/stand idly in my way. I used to dodge at the last second when I saw them manifesting in front of me but it's getting really strenuous having to put in extra work like I'm not carrying a big loud tapping "I can't see, please move" stick so I'm bapping more people in the legs because whatever, I don't care.

Do I HAVE to apologize? Am I just an especially angry and bitter pill who hates everyone or is this like a common annoyance
Darwin-dane 36 points 1y ago
You absolutely do *NOT* have to feel bad after hitting someone with your cane! If anything they should feel bad for you considering they are the ones who got in the way of someone who can't really see, Y'know as the fully sighted people who should look at their surroundings.

I also commonly hit people with my cane cause they weren't looking where they were going, Even with my glasses on while using the cane I usually have to look down at the floor to look at where I'm stepping sometimes and the amount of people that keep just teleporting in front of me when I glance down to not trip over is astounding.

I am sorry that you have to go through the everyday annoyance of bumping into people cause they are too sucked into their phones to notice you with a cane.
letspaintthesky 19 points 1y ago
If people don't want to use the sight they have, it's not your fault for navigating the earth with the tools you have because of the sight you don't got.
JackFrostsKid 18 points 1y ago
GOD, yeah it's a huge issue where I live. I've even had an issue with people trying to jump my cane and getting hit in the groin while I walk as a result.

I was always taught to just hit people who don't pay attention, and move on without another word. If they decide to cause a scene I was told to explain that I'm blind, and my cane warns me of obstacles that I could hit. As a sighted person, it's their job to move out of the way if they don't want to get hit, but if they don't move, they an an obstacle; my cane will treat them as such.
saizai 2 points 1y ago
I figure that if someone tries to jump my cane and I whack 'em in the balls, *good*. Maybe they'll learn.

My only regret is that it risks damaging my cane. :laugh:
JackFrostsKid 2 points 1y ago
Lol yeah. I had a student jump my cane while going down stairs who has certainly reverted it..
saizai 1 points 1y ago
Yikes. I have never had someone try to jump my cane on stairs. That seems extremely likely to result in injury for at least one if not both of us.

I have had someone grab me while I was in the middle of the movement of stepping onto a down escalator. Almost made me fall down a multi story escalator; good reflexes are all that saved me. That was genuinely terrifying.

But crossing? People don't tend to move diagonally on stairs. I've had people go around me, or times when I was the one going against the flow because I didn't notice or I needed to use the right hand side anyway, but that's never been a problem.

Cane jumpers have been pretty rare in my experience. Like once or twice a year maybe?
JackFrostsKid 1 points 1y ago
Yeah, I live pretty rurally, and am the only blind person in my community. At that, I’m one of very few disabled people in the community at all.

I think a combination of the fact that most people here have gone their entire life not seeing a cane user, the fact that I’m in high school and high schoolers are jerks, and the fact that my brother does dumb stuff to me (in a sibling way) that contributed to people thinking that this sort of behavior is ok.
LilacRose32 12 points 1y ago
I only feel bad if it’s someone who doesn’t know better - small children and dogs
Darwin-dane 2 points 1y ago
Dogs usually just try to chase mine as I currently use a big ball roller lol.
zapto_gamer 2 points 1y ago
I agree with this one, but I do not run into young children anymore after elementary school.
GTbuddha 11 points 1y ago
You should have seen the beat down I was about to get when my guide dog stuck his cold wet nose up a gals very short skirt! We were waiting in a line and my dog was trying to get her to move.
That's a true story. Hope it made you laugh. Sometimes it is frustrating but let the negativity go and you will be happier.
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 1y ago
Hahahaha! How rude of the dog hahahaha!
Chance_Cup_3701 9 points 1y ago
If you hit me in the legs because I wasn't paying attention I would definitely apologize. Not to me, I mean I would apologize to you for potentially causing an injury
jakeysnakey83 3 points 1y ago
I would also apologize if you hit me while I was on my phone or otherwise not paying attention.
thatawkwardcosplayer 7 points 1y ago
The only people I feel bad for is children and dogs. I go to a public school and I wack away all day because of those crowded halls. Nobody seems to really care tbfh student wise. So I see no reason to give a care either.
DrillInstructorJan 7 points 1y ago
If you're coming up behind someone in a noisy environment well, it's sort of hard to avoid. If someone's walking straight toward you, maybe they should have been paying more attention, but honestly it doesn't really matter. It's going to happen. I don't think I have ever once had anyone be funny about it. It's pretty obvious what the situation is and that there's not much I can do about it. I might reflexively say oh, sorry, but it's the same sort of apology you'd give if you accidentally brushed up against someone in a crowd, it's not something you remember thirty seconds later.
kescba 6 points 1y ago
Dont feel sorry about it, just keep using the cane ;-)
Real_Ad1154 5 points 1y ago
Nope, just say a polite "Sorry" and keep going on your way.
PrincessDie123 4 points 1y ago
Nope give ‘em a little bap, keep ‘em on their toes.
Darwin-dane 2 points 1y ago
That made me giggle. (:
PrincessDie123 2 points 1y ago
Haha I’m glad
Shadowwynd 3 points 1y ago
One of my clients (cognitive delays and blind) has a cane technique that looks like golf mixed with martial arts. He forcibly clears his own path - the people will move or they will receive thwackage and he has absolutely zero fricks to give. He doesn't due this intentionally, this is just how he travels - we can hear him coming a long way away.

Occasionally accidents happen. Apologize and move on. I am sighted; I have the higher responsibility to either move out of the way of someone who is blind or at least let them know where I am (e.g. saying good morning or something).
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 1y ago
Hahaha! That sounds kind of amusing and on paper cool. Not really that way in real life but interesting. And the fact he legitly don’t care hahahaha!
saizai 2 points 1y ago
I would say three things:

1. like everyone else, fuck no don't feel bad about just sensing where people are around you
2. if you're hitting them in the *leg* rather than the shoe then you're probably swinging too high. swing lower; it'll take less effort, notice more obstacles (like annoying little bumps that can make you stumble), and hit people in a less sensitive area if you do hit 'em.
3. try to pay attention to all the other cues — heat, wind currents, wind shadow, sound, echolocation, etc — that let you detect where people are. of course it's extremely hard to do this consistently; even when I'm hyper concentrated I only get them some of the time. but it helps, and you can sometimes navigate around them so it takes less time and tangle potential.
zapto_gamer 2 points 1y ago
I go to a high school where everybody is pretty much on their cell phones all of the time, if they don’t move, it’s their own fault if I rammed them to the ground lol. Can’t get into trouble considering I am blind and they are on their phones. Do not feel bad.
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 1y ago
Are you beating someone up because you are mad? Or are you a psycho wacking them crazily with pleasure. Do you enjoy beating them up because you get joy in torturing people? Okay no?

I think you should be fine then.

Usually our canes finds obstacles including people and you’re not doing it to wack them because you’re angry or delusional.


But these are accidental so I think you should be totally fine :D

Unless you have bad intentions you didn’t tell us about hahahaha!

My sister actually did something with the blind for her engineering degree she did one of those sensor things and she was talking about this tapping someone with a cane. And she was saying yeah, I have a sister she’d not care and she’d say tough you dont’ like it I just tapped you whatever, get over it. I forgot what she said, exactly. But I laughed because that’s exactly it.
Winnmark 1 points 1y ago
Depends.

If they're actually looking at their phone and not paying attention, that's not necessarily your fault. If you smack them out of anger, then yes you should feel bad. That's wrong.

You shouldn't feel bad per se, but saying a polite "sorry" isn't going to hurt either.

I think a lot of you forget most people don't interact with disabled people on a daily basis.

If you hit them because they're turned around, maybe they're talking to someone, then I don't know if it's your fault or not, but remember we don't have eyes in the back of our heads. More of a "it is what it is" kind of thing.
DannyMTZ956 1 points 1y ago
The cane tapping is not intended to make people move when you are walking twards them. Your cane touching them should not hurt, as the swing of the cane should not be forceful, and when it touches an obsticle you locate it, and go around it. There is no need to appologize.
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