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Full History - 2022 - 03 - 22 - ID#tk438u
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recent lo vision person here. question about the " white cane ". (self.Blind)
submitted by Ir0nhide81
Good afternoon everyone

It's become more and more apparent through both my family and my wife that I need to walk around with something that helps others understand that I identify as having low vision. I am in Canada and I've been working with the CNIB.

I wanted to know from fellow Canadians about which would be the best cane to purchase simply to have me identify as low vision.

I'm 6'1 and looking for the appropriate length and wanted to know if this cane would be ideal?

https://cnibsmartlife.ca/collections/canes-and-accessories/products/ambu-graphite-folding-cane-r-tip

If not any other suggestions would be appreciated.
PrincessDie123 6 points 1y ago
Also not Canadian but you probably are looking for an ID cane which is usually more lightweight than a mobility cane and used for identifying you as visually impaired as well as poking around some objects to see what they are like if you’re unsure if you’re about to step onto or off of something for example. Also generally speaking you want a cane that will stand an inch or so (2.5 centimeters or more) above your shoulder so measure how tall your shoulder is from the ground when standing straight then add a few centimeters to get the desired length.
Mamamagpie 3 points 1y ago
Length is tricky question. I use a cane much longer than suggested because, while I’m short my legs are long and I walk quickly.

I’m almost 62” tall, I have 57” NFB cane with 2” roller ball on it (59”). But I’m using it for mobility. People often use short ID Canes.
Ir0nhide81 [OP] 4 points 1y ago
Do you know or can you suggest any good very light ID canes? My loss of vision comes from retinopathy so I still have enough vision but it's not very good. So I'm just looking to let others know around me that when I bump into them it's not because I'm trying to start a fight lol.

I'm in Canada so I'm trying to avoid ordering from the US.
codeplaysleep 5 points 1y ago
Sounds like the Ambutech SlimLine folding graphite cane is probably perfect for your needs. They're a Canadian company, too.
epileptic_blind_guy 1 points 1y ago
Yeah I have a 3 piece folding cane from then so I don't step into people going through groups of people. Works great.
MetisMaheo 1 points 1y ago
Unless you research canes through the national federation of the blind or deaf services,canes or google,you probably won't know.We wish everyone knew so they wouldn't assume we could hear a car coming behind us or from the side. Even a limited visual field like glaucoma leaves you with on a good day,can make crossing streets or sharing sidewalks pretty dangerous or difficult. And that's on a good day. On a bad glaucoma active day you can go literally sightless during a food shopping trip. Please don't do the unaware thing of saying everyone should just get an aide. A good aide is extremely hard to find,expensive, and they don't come right away over food and other issues. I didn't down vote,maybe touched wrong button.
SqornshellousZ 1 points 1y ago
I would advise against the ID cane others are suggesting. The cnib offers the first cane free with an O&M session. I am 6ft trans fem and appreciate the sturdy construction of the segmented folding cane. It's not cumbersome to tuck under my arm when I can see in good light and is fully functional later at night. People are unobservant enought, get the proper cane and sometimes they are less so.
Ir0nhide81 [OP] 1 points 1y ago
Yeah based on what I've been reading the two types of canes are folding and telescope? Obviously the telescopes are much more but I feel the folding will fit just fine on my backpack. 90% of the time when I leave our home I'm with my partner but when she is not able to go with me this is why I want this cane for others to recognize.

Like I had said previously to someone that I'm in my 30s and sometimes men younger than me if I bump into them or have a misstep they perceive it as wanting to fight. It's so dumb. I figure carrying an IDK will probably give me some Grace for situations like that.

I ended up ordering the ID cane through ambitech and got a fun white shaft with a blue and coloring scheme. I ended up going with 48 inches in length.
It only cost $20 from the site so I figure if I need a different size one or feel more comfortable with the longer or shorter I can just order it again.
KillerLag 1 points 1y ago
O&M instructor here for VLRO (the rehabilitation part of CNIB), and also from Ontario.

If there are no safety issues (walking into things, or tripping off curbs), then an ID cane is sufficient. An actual assessment from an O&M instructor would be useful, though.

I'm 5'11, and an ID cane for my height would be 38"-40", although some people might like a little longer. 40"-42" would be good for your height.

If you are getting the long cane (the one in your link), you should arrange a meeting with an O&M instructor. They can check your height (for your height, the average would be 58", although that could change depending on your walking speed). Also, there is some government coverage of the cost of the cane as well (75% of the cost through ADP, and more if you are on ODSP).
Ir0nhide81 [OP] 1 points 1y ago
Hey thanks for the response!

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I'm in Ontario also and I have a medical report with CNIB (low vision evaluation). Someone suggested in this threat that CNIB offer a "free" ID cane? Is this true?
KillerLag 1 points 1y ago
That policy changed about 5-6 years ago, unfortunately.
SoapyRiley 1 points 1y ago
I had the Ambutech slimline and it was great until my dog broke the tip connector. Very very light and easy to toss in a bag when I didn’t need it. As far as length, just decide how far away you want to be able to poke things and order that length. If you don’t think you’ll need to poke things, then it could be as short as is comfortable for you to carry.
_-_-Anonymous-_-_ 1 points 1y ago
For identification as a low vidion individual I would suggest getting an ID cane. They are lighter weight and made to be identified as such. A mobility cane (which is the image you showed above) is heavy duty and made for everyday use as a mobility aid. I work with CNIB as well, you can start with the ID cane and see if you want to try a monility one. Also, theres no need to purchase one as a canadian citizen, the government should provide you with one free of charge. Talk to your CNIB contact about this and they will be glad to help. If not, feel free to reach out to me and I can help you figure it out! Ive been doing this a while XD
Tarnagona 1 points 1y ago
The cane you’ve linked to is a travel cane (a standard white cane, if you will), which is thicker and heavier, as it’s made to feel out the ground in front of you. However, if you want something just for identification, you’re looking for an ID cane, which is generally thinner and shorter. CNIB does also sell ID canes, and if you’re working with an O&M, they should be able to give you guidance on what kind of cane you are looking for. In Canada, I’ve found the CNIB tends to be the cheapest place to buy a cane, especially if you can pick it up in person. Buying direct from Ambutech would be cheaper, except for the shipping costs (which are $25). If you want to be a bit fancy, however, Ambutech let’s you customize your cane with different colours.
MetisMaheo -2 points 1y ago
THE RED BAND NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THE CANE IDENTIFIES THE USER AS VISUALLY IMPAIRED, WHILE ADDING A SECOND BAND OF COLOR NEAR THE HANDLE IDENTIFIES USER AS DEAF AND BLIND OR DEAF AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED. BOTH ARE NECESSARY BECAUSE PEOPLE VERY OFTEN ASK IF WE ARE LOST OR NEED HELP AND WE CAN'T HEAR THEM. WE TELL OUR VISUALLY IMPAIRED KIDS THEY ARE ALL VIP'S, V.ERY I.MPORTANT P.EOPLE. I WISH EVERYONE KNEW ABOUT THAT SECOND BAND. OF COURSE CANES MARKED FOR 2 NEEDS ARE HARD TO FIND AND NOT ALL OF US CAN GET TO STORES FOR WIDE BAND RED TAPE.
Tarnagona 2 points 1y ago
That isn’t a hard and fast rule. That is, in Canada, generally, people who are totally blind also carry canes with a red band on the bottom (unless you specially order an all white cane). I know this is not the case in other countries (my mum brought me back a white cane from England as a kid, and it was all white). Someone who is Deafblind may carry a red and white striped cane, to indicate Deafblindness, or they may choose not to. EDIT: I should say, the Deafblind people I’ve met, admittedly not many, carried a standard white cane rather than one with stripes or with a red band near the top of the cane, which is why I understand this to be an option rather than necessity, but I’m not Deafblind, myself, and this may have become more common practice in recent years.

There may be more specific rules or laws in other places, but there isn’t an international standard beyond a mostly white stick generally indicating blindness.

A cane will work the same no matter what colour it is, though it won’t necessarily identify you in the same way. It’s not very common, but I’ve seen people carry a blue or a pink cane.

I recently ordered a new cane in white and blue. It has a blue handle, and I replaced the red bottom section with a blue one. I kept the rest of the cane white, so it would still be recognizable as a white cane. Shamelessly stealing the idea from a post on here, I’ve added galaxy print duct tape accents to my cane, and a cool keychain to the top, so it’s space-themed. I’m not using my cane wrongly by doing this, though I expect I may get questions about the colour sometimes (I haven’t yet). If you chose to get a cane of an entirely different colour, you’re also making the choice to accept people will ask you more questions about it.

For an ID cane, seeing as it’s primary purpose is identification, you ought probably to order the cane in white, so it serves its purpose. But no reason you can’t decide to customize with a blue or red handle, instead of a black one, for example, without compromising the utility of the cane or what it symbolizes.
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 1y ago
Never heard of this.


And why are we downvoting now?
Mamamagpie 1 points 1y ago
Ir0nhide81 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
I'm wondering if it would be smart for me to pick up a later material one? The carbon fiber or fiberglass? I'm not too worried about price so I'm looking to get the best bang for my buck.
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 1y ago
Yeah, I like those over the heavier ones and they work really well too.
Mamamagpie 1 points 1y ago
Not Canadian, but…

Will you be using it for navigation or just it let other people know you are VI.
Ir0nhide81 [OP] 4 points 1y ago
Mostly letting others know that I have low vision. I've had a couple of times where young men have thought I've been trying to fight accidentally bumping into them because of primarily my right eye optic nerve damage.

So looking for something extremely light will fit in my backpack and I can use when my wife isn't helping me get around and bump into stuff.
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 1y ago
That’s definitely not cool people think you think you want to fight when you bump in to them.
verruckt12 0 points 1y ago
I'm blind in one eye, and also feel like sometimes I need to identify myself so that people don't get irritated when I bump into them. Here in Europe there is a yellow circle with 3 dots on it which is a standard symbol for VI/blindness and some people wear this on their clothes, but I don't know if that's a thing in North America. I've also thought about wearing an eye patch but haven't tried that yet. For me at least, a cane seems a bit too much as I wouldn't know what to do with it other than carry it... I don't need one for walking in general (although it would probably help in bumpy places or at night) so I haven't thought of using a cane.
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