College students, tell me how you efficiently manage your workload.(self.Blind)
submitted by QuasarchShooby
I’m currently attending community College with intention to transfer to a 4 year. I’ve gone to a 4 year before, but left due to some life f*ckery. I’ve been doing a lot of introspection to make sure my second attempt at getting an education goes how I want it to go. It’s been going really well so far. I’ve maintained a 4.0 and will be ready to transfer soon. However, as I plan for the increase in work university will give me, I’ve come to be concerned about the length of time I spend getting work done. More specifically, readings. I am not getting nearly as much reading assignments now as I would imagine university to be like. Yet, I’m taking two to three hours to do a single reading. This horrifies me because I use a screen reader for readings and able to listen to pretty rapid speech. I think what’s increasing the amount of time I take is relistening to certain things multiple times. I do this because I can understand what’s being said, but I take a bit to fully process it. Once I feel like I processed everything, I alt+tab into my notes to write it down. I tried doing note taking on my Brailliant, bud that slows me down even further. What can I do to speed up this process? I want to go to grad school and eventually juggle work with it all. But it isn’t possible right now because I take too much time to get work done. Work aside, I need to get in more activities, bud in so tired by the end of the day that I have little motivation to do anything else. Enlighten me busy people.
I would also love to hear how you divide your work throughout the week. My system is working for me for now, but I’m anxious it isn’t good enough.
K-R-Rose5 points1y ago
This might not be helpful to you at all, but here it goes. I’m a writing major, meaning pretty much everything I get for homework is reading. I also use a screen reader, and I never listen to anything twice. If I don’t get it, oh well. Class is just a discussion anyway, and I don’t have to participate if I don’t want to (or can’t because I just didn’t do the reading). Also, I sometimes only do half the reading. There are no tests at my college, only projects and essays which I can easily complete with the halves of chapters, articles, and essays that I do read. It depends on the class, so some you might take are the format, and won’t require you to retain any knowledge after the fact.
I’m also a person that just doesn’t need notes. If I write I down, I instantly forget it, so I can’t help you there.
Thirdly, I make sure I take breaks and have self care time. I’m horribly slow at getting work done if I’m burned out or tired. I usually never get back from class and do more work (my classes are 2 hours, and two days of the week I have two in a row, so that’s 4 hours straight of lectures). I will always take a long break before starting homework, and honestly, I do most of it over the weekend. I find it too stressful to get anything done during the week, so I cram it all on Saturday and Sunday. I never get a day off, but it works.
Badassmotherfuckerer2 points1y ago
I also relate to your workflow system a lot. I generally push a lot of my working days to the weekend. Once you've been out all day and in class, the last thing you want to do is listen to synthesized speech for hours on end. I've also never been able to put to words the fact that listening to synthesized speech for hours is so taxing. It takes a lot out of you and I always wondered why I was so worn out when I was literally at a desk for hours, but glad to know other people go through that too. The only thing in my experience I would say against skipping some readings is that I'm always afraid I may miss out on a key argument or detail, and this might show in my answers or my writings. So I either have to read things fully based on the possibility of missing out, or just don't touch the readings I skipped on papers when I can avoidl them.
K-R-Rose1 points1y ago
Yeah I tend to just not mention texts I didn’t read lol. But yes, robotic speech is so horrible to listen to. I have hours of reading to do everyday, and it’s all through Bookshare. There are free browser extensions that have more human voices than Bookshare. I get so angry when people tell me that Bookshare is equal access. It just isn’t. It’s equitable, but it sure as hell is not an equal experience.
Badassmotherfuckerer1 points1y ago
That's certainly true, the experience is no where near equal. That said, though, in my experience, I'm so happy when I find the books I need are on Booksahre, as they are typically laid out far better for screen readers than other methods. Just out of curiosity, what does that mean when you say you listen to things through Bookshare? I find what I'm looking for and download it to Voice Dream Reader to read it that way.
K-R-Rose1 points1y ago
You can do that?? I just use Bookshare’s reading feature because I’m not tech inclined
DrillInstructorJan4 points1y ago
The inability to skim read stuff is an absolute killer and something I still struggle with after 20 plus years. There are services like wordtune which exist to automatically summarise text down to a smaller wordcount and it works to an extent but you would hesitate to trust it for something important like revising for an exam.
In the end if you have to stay up all night well so be it. Not great but if you want to get anywhere you do what it takes. I got through an undergraduate degree like that when I was really new to being blind and I laugh at how crap I was at everything, but the speed reading thing is something you may just have to deal with.
CloudyBeep3 points1y ago
JAWS contains an extremely feature-rich skim reading tool.
QuasarchShooby [OP]4 points1y ago
Wait what? Tell me more.
CloudyBeep3 points1y ago
There's a keystroke to open it which I don't remember right now. You can probably open it from the Run JAWS Manager dialog (JAWSKEY+F2 from anywhere), and you can learn more about it from the JAWS help system (F1 from the JAWS window, then press CTRL+TAB to get to the search page, and type "skim reading").
DrillInstructorJan2 points1y ago
All of this stuff is really useful, it's just an issue of, do I really want to rely on that to revise for an exam. I would suggest not unfortunately.
QuasarchShooby [OP]2 points1y ago
Not the answer I was hoping for, but you’re probably right. I better start getting used to running on few hours of sleep.
CloudyBeep2 points1y ago
I never lost sleep in college because I couldn't keep up with the workload. If you develop good strategies, you shouldn't need to either.
QuasarchShooby [OP]3 points1y ago
What are your strategies?
CosmicBunny974 points1y ago
I have no tips on increasing efficiency for reading and note-taking, because it's also something I struggle with, but I find that having a part-time workload makes uni a lot more manageable for me. In most cases, it would take longer, but that's probably not the end of the world. I'm in Australia though, not sure if you can do part-time study in other countries.
QuasarchShooby [OP]2 points1y ago
It’s allowed, but I would lose my scholarships.
CosmicBunny973 points1y ago
Ah, that sucks.
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I also forgot to mention, I do know one tip that may improve efficiency, but do you classes post an overview with learning objectives? I do my readings centred around the readings and the lectures. May not improve reading speed per se, but just helps with focus.
TechnicalPragmatist2 points1y ago
That’s interesting I was going to say decrease your work load. But yeah, that does suck. I am currently just taking one class at a time because I am a stem student and this is math and it takes a majority of my time. And I do every problem I can find in the book a bit of a workaholic here.
I also work and do other stuff at the same time like reading or listening to posts on here and writing to you while doing math again workaholic I work all the time. I fit in a pretty time consuming hobby for a while I may do it in another form but was playing with some self-development stuff and talking to people about it while doing math all at the same time hhahaha! It’s a talent for sure.
Also can you work ahead and prepare for the future by getting work done sooner it may take up a lot of your time.
QuasarchShooby [OP]2 points1y ago
I get it. I’m a workoholic and a perfectionist. It’s great when it comes to exams, but not so great when it comes to my mental health. Maybe I need to find a way to fit in a very very part time job.
TechnicalPragmatist2 points1y ago
Not if you’re already stressed that is not a great idea.
djquik12 points1y ago
Do you have any experience with stastistics? I may have some questions
TechnicalPragmatist2 points1y ago
Specifically statistics or math in general? I have a lot with math but not with stats. Get a calculator heavy book and not the chart and table ones.
Badassmotherfuckerer3 points1y ago
Dude, I relate to everything you're talking about a lot. I also am doing the community college to university route as a blind student. Depending on the course, I definitely found community college courses to take up a lot of my time. They were on the semester system as well. That's a really important aspect. The university I'm going to goes off the quarter system, which is 10 weeks instead of 16 or whatever the normal semester is. So the readings and assignments are compressed a lot compared to the semester. I am finding that classes are taking up a lot more of my time than before. It's not so much that it's harder at all, it's just a lot faster paced and stuffed with readings. I'm a political science major, so it's obviously going to be different based on your major. And I'm only taking 8 units so far in the quarters I've been, where as the full time standard is either 12 or 15 units, which seems insane to me. What you said about relisting to material is so true. For reading Supreme Court cases, which we have to do a lot of in these classes, I choose to read the cases like 2-3 times. Once to understand the overall idea and details, then again to fully understand the arguments and reasoning. Then papers take so damn long because I have to re-read everything when I lose track and then looking through research papers takes a long time without the ability to skim effectively. And the part you mentioned about how to balance this workload further once you get into grad school and actually into a career is something that's on my mind a lot. I also really want to figure out how to manage this balance. I still want to be able to find time to work out, spend time with friends, and not be a stressed out irritable mess all the time. Sorry I don't have many answers, I just understand a lot of the issues you're discussing. But if I could add a couple things, do you know if the university you're going to is on the quarter or semester system? That plays a big role in time constraints and workload. Also, I'm not sure how set your choices are for your classes, in terms of your counselers and others choosing those things, but if you have a fair amount of choices and have to remain full time for various reasons, it's all about class selection and balance. I'm sure you know this already from community college, but it's even more applicable in university. It makes sense to balance say two upper division major classes that may have a lot of reading (or ideally find one or two that don't have alot of reading or busywork, ratemyprofessor and talking to people are great for this) with one or two "easy" classes. This is going to be subjective, but you can kind of tell with some classes. Again, talking to people about this will be helpful, and look at your university's subreddit, it may have a lot of useful information in that regard. Also, someone else in the thread said this, but (strictly depends on the class), do your best to assess what readings MUST be read, and what isn't necessary. I'm finding that I can get by with skipping certain readings at certain times, not because of slacking, but just to fit in readings for other classes, but this is something you have to pick up from learning the professor and class layout. Also, I offload mostly all my readings onto Dropbox and download them onto VoiceDream Reader, so I can walk around and listen to readings and read them on the way to class, etc. Also, I tend to use two devices to take notes or write if I'm reading things. Like I will listen on my iPhone with an earbud in one ear and type on my computer with headphones on over my earbud. I just found that easier than alt abbing a lot, depending on the task.
CloudyBeep3 points1y ago
Not all readings are important enough for you to take notes on them. Since you often need to reread passages, reading in braille may be better for you, though that will depend on your reading speed, how long you can do it, etc.
QuasarchShooby [OP]7 points1y ago
My Braille reading is good enough to get me through Spanish, but I shudder at the idea of reading my psychology book in braille.
CloudyBeep5 points1y ago
Some people get faster the more they do it.
I sometimes used a hybrid approach—use a screen reader slightly slower than my normal speed for reading complex material, and have my braille display connected so that I could reread the confusing parts in braille right then and not get frustrated listening to the same thing again and again and still not understanding.
Laser_Lens_42 points1y ago
When it comes to reading, I slow my screen reader down a little bit. I can listen to it faster, but slowing it down a little gives me better comprehension which means I have to go back and reread fewer times which means I got done faster overall. Frequent breaks also helps a lot. Listening to a robot chattering all day is mentally taxing.
QuasarchShooby [OP]5 points1y ago
Good idea. I tried this this morning and it helped a ton. You’re so right about how mentally taxing listening to a robot blab at you is. The way sighted people feel after staring at their notes all day, is how I feel after listening to JAWS chirp at me.
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