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Long distance hiking/backpacking blind (self.Blind)
submitted by QuentinJamesP89
Any suggestions for long distance hiking/backpacking with very, very little vision? I'm a decent cane user, but on uneven ground it's tough. If anyone has experience with this, how well have you been able to keep up with companions? I'd feel bad to significantly slow everyone down. How much are you generally able to cover in a day? Any tips for rough terrain with the cane?
GTbuddha 9 points 1y ago
I have hiked a handful of the long distance trails in the US, Europe and S. America. Shoot me a message because this gets super individualized.
So cool that you are thinking about doing this.
QuentinJamesP89 [OP] 3 points 1y ago
Thanks, I'll do that.
HeftyCryptographer21 7 points 1y ago
I generally use two hiking poles. I move each one with each step and step where the pole was. If it is super rough I don't have any recommendations, but if it is something relatively tame it shouldn't be a problem. Even if it does get rough that still works for me, I am just slower than normal.
QuentinJamesP89 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll need to practice this and see how it goes. How much slower than normal do you think you are?
HeftyCryptographer21 3 points 1y ago
quite a bit, but I am not super fit. Maybe 4k/hour on simple but hilly terrain? I can go a normal speed on stuff like accessible trails and whatnot, and it is closer to 1-2 k/hour on stuff like scrambling or walking on massive boulders. It really varies.
QuentinJamesP89 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Okay. That's honestly not bad.
HeftyCryptographer21 2 points 1y ago
yeah, it isn't. It is hard to know how much is due to my fitness though since you are presumably way fitter than me. I also notice that on the way back down I tend to trip a lot more, I assume because I am tired and not paying much attention.
[deleted] 3 points 1y ago
When I used to do that I just got a stick from the woods and folded up my real cane. I don't feel like I was significantly slower because, honestly, everyone should be testing their next step with a stick. You don't know what's hiding under that pile of leaves on the ground. Could be a nice little gopher hole waiting to twist ya ankel and laugh atcha. Another thing, make sure you keep your arm up. A stick on the ground isn't gonna help ya when a tree branch comes out of nowhere wanting to say hi to ya snout or pokes its needles in your eyes in a friendly wave.
QuentinJamesP89 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Yeah, good to keep in mind.
BenandGracie 3 points 1y ago
I have never done any hiking, but they make different cane tips for rough terrain. You might want to look in to getting one.
QuentinJamesP89 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
I do have a couple different tips I was told were useful on rough ground, but haven't experimented a lot yet. I'm also concerned about losing or wearing out tips.
Vicorin 1 points 1y ago
There’s also all-terrain tips like this: https://www.maxiaids.com/all-terrain-cane-tip-tip-and-assembly-only

Not sure what kind of cane you have, but maybe check to see if the manufacturer has anything like this. It’s also pretty simple (just a wide, flat piece of hard nylon with rounded edges) you might be able to fashion something similar yourself.
QuentinJamesP89 [OP] 1 points 1y ago
I have an Ambutech graphite folding cane. I wonder if Ambutech makes anything similar.
RagingRoman01 2 points 1y ago
I recommend using trekking poles. You can also hold onto someone’s backpack strap and use a single trekking pole. I was part of a hiking trip down the Grand Canyon with a bunch of blind students and these are the most common tactics we used.

I personally used two poles and placed the pole in the spot where I was planning on stepping. It’s pretty similar to using a cane except you’re holding 2 of them and they’re held more vertically. I would have to follow someone because I can’t tell what is and isn’t part of the trail.

When you hold onto someone’s backpack strap you shouldn’t have to worry about getting lost or being taken down a rough trail. That being said, you will need someone who you can fully trust. The arm that’s holding on to the strap will tell you if you’re going to be stepping up or down. Your trekking pole hand (usually your cane hand) will give you details on how the trail is and give you stability. You will not be directly behind your guide so that pole will also warn you of any tripping rocks. The most important thing is communicating with your guide. There will be special cases where you have to duck under a low hanging branch or climb over a high step.

Neither tactic is better or worse, it’s all up to how comfortable you feel. The pace you hike at won’t be slower if you use one over the other.

This is a rough explanation and you’ll probably learn better being out on the trail. That’s really all that matters, getting out and hiking. You’re going to start slow and you might even be exhausted if you’re not active. My first hike took me 4 hours to complete, but after a few months of weekly hikes, I brought that time down to 1.5 hours. Our entire group started of this way and after 6 months of training, we were all hiking at average and above average speeds.

I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any questions.
QuentinJamesP89 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Thanks, this is detailed and helpful. Now I just need to get out and practice. This isn't for a few months so I've got time to practice and work up to it. I'm going with my dad and six brothers who should all be pretty considerate with directions, or if I need to use some form of sighted guide at any point like holding on to a backpack strap. I'm in decent shape, but I expect it'll still be pretty hard.
SoapyRiley 2 points 1y ago
A camping trip was what broke down the last barrier keeping me from cane use. I almost fell off a cliff into Lake Joccossee looking for a place to pee. For my next hike, I chose an aluminum cane with the Rover freewheeling tip. I love this for well used trails. Finds tree roots well without jabbing. I did 10 miles that ended in a climb to Hanging Rock. Worked ok for that climb only because this is a well loved trail where they carved stairs into the rock. Gives absolutely no stability however and some of those stairs were hip high. This season I plan to switch to long trekking poles. I need something that can reach and test rocks for stability. Also, I prefer barefoot style hiking shoes. I’m less likely to twist an ankle if my foot can bend over tree roots and angled rocks vs a thick soled trainer or stiff hiking boot that will allow rocking or require more movement in the ankle to adjust.
QuentinJamesP89 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
That'll do it. I finally gave in to using a cane after missing some steps and falling. It was hard but I'm glad I did.

Yeah, I'm going to give trekking poles a try. Makes a lot more sense in that sort of environment than a fragile cane and tips that can easily wear down or get lost.
nadmaximus 2 points 1y ago
EDIT: I did not put the link to the hiking article. I have updated it. I found $1 link which might be interesting. The $1/blog seems cool as well.

Happy trails!
QuentinJamesP89 [OP] 1 points 1y ago
Thanks, that looks really interesting.
Nighthawk321 2 points 1y ago
I have some experience with this and I would suggest using pair of trekking poles instead of a cane. Pretty much the same thing but much stronger.
QuentinJamesP89 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Thanks! I'll have to practice with this. I've gotten so used to using a cane by now that it seems weird to think of leaving it behind, even for something better, but I'm excited to try this out.
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