PLEASE READ - POSTING SURVEYS (CORPORATE/SCHOOLS) - QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY?(self.Blind)
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Many people want to help the blind community by creating new apps or technology. That's awesome! Others are writing stories or making films with blind characters and want to ask a blind person's perspective. That's great, too! This thread is the place where the ones who want to help or learn can connect with the blind and visually impaired people who don't mind answering questions, filling out surveys, or being interviewed. We're putting it in a single, stickied thread for everyone's convenience. Most of the regulars here come for the company. r/Blind is a place where we feel accepted, a place where we fit in with the only other people who understand what life is like for us. It's our place to rant and to celebrate, to vent and to compare notes. It's where we grieve the loss of our eyesight and encourage each other to do our best. We don't come here to answer questions from people who assume we're the blind version of r/AskReddit. Moving all the questions to this thread frees up our sub for the more personal and heartfelt posts.
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bengineering1034 points1y ago
Hello - I have a highly specific question and have been unable to find an answer so far online. I am hoping this is a good place to ask. It is specifically about screen reader compatibility with equations, and the best way to represent multiplication: using the times symbol, using a dot symbol, or using no symbol at all. for example, the following three expressions are mathematically equivalent, and to my knowledge they all work with screen readers:
expression 1 with no symbol: x(y+z)
expression 2 with a dot: x·(y+z)
expression 3 with times symbol: x×(y+z)
In my experience, at the college level (where I am doing this), it is much more common to use the dot or no symbol at all. The times symbol is more of a grade school thing. But the dot seems like it is the worst for screen reader compatibility, because "x dot" could also mean "x with a dot over it," (i.e. the derivative of x) so is ambiguous. Conversely, for people with partial vision, the dot may be better because it is more clearly distinct from the letter x, which can look very similar to the times symbol.
I have looked around and found information about various equation-compatible screen readers, but no specific standard about how to represent multiplication. Any advice would be appreciated!
edit: I have been asking around in other places and apparently there is a unicode character called "invisible times," which presumably shows up as a blank space but would be read as "times" by a screen reader? So that's an interesting option.
rumster2 points1y ago
let me know if you don't get any responses by end of week and I'll let you post inside the community.
bengineering1031 points1y ago
Thanks! Also, I did my best to make my post screen-reader compatible, but please let me know if there are issues I need to fix and I can do that before posting.
sophiataitflynn1 points1y ago
Hi! Your post itself was accessible to me, but it didnt read the equation except for the x and x•. I'm not sure why.
Migmatite1 points1y ago
Parentheses was my preferred method with my braille display in Calculus as I would only get one indicator that the next symbol isn't a letter or number but a parentheses. I never used the times symbol, but did have equations written with a dot.
Edit: the derivative symbol with the math extension doesn't do it as x-dot. Dot is a period which are holes 2-5-6. I don't know if this would make sense to you any, but here is $1 works for derivatives and partial derivatives.
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
For me and this is someone who doesn’t do math extensively on the computer I am a stem major but mostly do it traditional but I would like to hear times I mean I could memorize and understand the middle dot for sure. But the nothing only makes sense if it’s with an x like 3x+2y or something like that.
But probably not the best person to ask about this specific issue.
mintsimum3 points1y ago
Hi! I'm currently working on a school project for a Human-Computer Interaction class, where we are designing a wristwatch to aid visually impaired people with organizing their clothes by color/pattern, as well as reading text from a screen or paper without the need for accessibility tools. This is definitely a long shot, but if anyone here is visually impaired/blind or knows someone who is and has an Apple watch, and is also willing to participate in a 20ish minute study, please DM me! We created a Figma prototype that can be emulated on an Apple watch, and we wanted to test it out. Thanks so much in advance!
Raven_azarathmetrion4 points1y ago
Please reach out! We will really appreciate it!
TechnicalPragmatist2 points1y ago
Yes happy to help if you want to dm me I’ll do it. Happy to help you! I have an apple watch and love it.
NewEthos3 points1y ago
Brief question: Which is easier to use with your assistive tech for school or work purposes: Google products (like Gmail, Drive, Docs, etc.) or Microsoft (Outlook, One Drive, Word, etc.), or a combination of the two? I work for a college that is about to adopt either Microsoft 365 or Google Enterprise, and I want to support whatever is best for our blind/visually impaired students. Feel free to reply here or $1, whichever is easier. Thank you!
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Hmm….. I think one drive is easier for me to get stuff on and off. And microsoft products has worked more on accessibility for longer. So probably microsoft. Word is and has made a lot of screen reader changes with freedom scientific and is more popular and thus got more of the screen reading community time and attention so it’s more perfected. I like neither mail apps but okay I use my native apple mail app. But outlook could be clunky and gmail isn’t much better. I think outlook generally has more screen reader support though.
Vichblen3 points1y ago
Hello, artist\\animator here. I'm making a film about a person who lost their vision (to describe it briefly) and I'm looking for different ways to depict the change the person experiences and how they learn to perceive the world around them by touch. Here are some leading questions, but if you have any other details/experiences in regards to losing your vision I would love to hear them as well.
1. How did your perception change, when it came to surroundings you were already familiar with (eg. your home)? Did you feel like the ceiling became higher, or the whole room became more cramped, or anything of that sort? 2. Do you fill up the space that you're unfamiliar with with something imaginary? For example, you're at a grocery store and pick up some frozen pizza. Do you imagine what the print on the box is, or what the shelves around it look like? Or do you just leave the space blank? Same with people, do you imagine a face of a person if you haven't met them before? 3. Did you get anxious about various noises the source of which you couldn't see? (footsteps, creaks, etc)
Thank you in advance for your response.
Fredchasing4753 points1y ago
Well, I have RP, with a decent amount remaining vision, and I have nothing to add to what u/blindemanonfire said. My experience is almost exactly the same, except the tube I look through is a bit wider than a straw. And, FWIW, I’ve been wondering/musing about how much my brain fills in versus what I’m actually seeing (basically your Q2) for quite a while now, so your question was pretty interesting to me. I’m disappointed you didn’t get more responses; would like to hear more about other peoples’ experiences
That said, I imagine there’s a huge difference in the answers to your questions depending on whether a person suddenly lost most/all of their sight, and a person (like me) who’s been slowly losing it for many years. Don’t know if that’s true, but it’s something you might wanna keep in mind
I understand why the editors want to keep questions like this in just one thread, bit I think it might be nice to have a separate sub Reddit (or a sub sub Reddit if there is such a thing) for this stuff
Unlikely-Choice3 points1y ago
Awesome! I am doing a very similar project to what you are describing. I'm making a virtual reality experience about being VI or blind. I'd love to see what you'll come up with!
sophiataitflynn2 points1y ago
For me, rooms seemed bigger and took longer to cross. Like "dang, I didn't realize how many steps it took to get to my refrigerator." Or "wow, this coffee table never seemed so long before."
Yeah, unexpected sounds or sounds I didn't know what was making them scared me. And I still jump some times.
I don't really imagine what people look like, but I do make mental guesses on their race, hight, and what kind of clothing I think they wear & like.
One thing with becoming blind is you forget what things look like. This can be hilarious at times and upsetting at other times. This something that comes with time, but all blind people experience this to different degrees. You forget the face of your loved ones and your own face, which colors are which. What different objects and animals look like and in some cases you forget what almost everything looks like. This is more dependent on how long you have been blind, what age you were when you went blind, and your own mind and interest. I started going blind as a child and now I'm in my mid 20s, so there are many things I don't remember visually anymore.
I don't imagine pizza box labels or what the shelf looks like. But some things you try to picture in your head. What exactly, i think that's up to the person. Sometimes it works, other times it really doesn't. I do try to get an understanding of the layout of a place. And it's not only by touch, sound and smell play a huge role in navigation.
It's important to pay attention to what you hear and what you don't hear.
You can tell the size of a room, how clutter or how much furniture is in it, and even if there is furniture on one side more the other by how the sound of your voice or footsteps reverberate off the walls.
This one time I was out with my O & M teacher we were at a road crossing and she was teaching me how to cross it. (O& M stand for orientation and Mobility. These are people who have the lovely job of teaching us blind people how to go places while not being able to see. And how to use a cane.)
I was at this crossing and I listening to the traffic parallel to me. And I kept hearing the cars, but as soon as they went to pass in front of me, the sound would vanish for a second or two. And it really freaked me out. So asked "ms Suzy, what the heck is happening?" She told me that it was a round about. She explains to me that there is a circle that the cars have to drive around. I tried to picture this, and I can't wrap my head around it.
You can also recognize people & places solely on the smell. Personally I always know where the Bakery section in a store is based on the smell and know when my fiance has been in a room recently because the scent of her shampoo clings to the air.
A lot of this does have to do with the person and these things do change as a person gets use to being blind and as the years go on while being blind. If you have more questions or need clarification on something, I don't mind exlpaining.
Migmatite2 points1y ago
1. Assumed it was a weird astigmatism. Didn't know the seriousness of my vision loss and thought I had only lost my ability to see at night. Edit: It looked doubled vision at times and the walls looked concave or convex depending on the angle I was looking at it, but this was suttle and I could easily ignore it. I have no depth perception and can't see 3D at all. If I want to get a better look at something from far away, I close my right eye and use my left, but if I want to look at something better up close, I close my left eye and use my right. No reason why I choose one eye over the other for these particular tasks, just did.
2. Not my video, but this is what $1. My brain takes what it is seeing out of my peripheral and tries to fill in the middle pieces for me. Whether or not the middle part is accurate is beyond me. If there was a dog that fit in my blind spot without my peripheral picking it up, then I cannot see it at all, it's as if the dog does not exist.
3. No anxiety with sound, although I might pause mid conversation briefly to ID sudden noises approaching me.
BlindManOnFire2 points1y ago
1. I see the world through a straw, It can be disorienting. Some of what I see is without context of the surroundings. For example, sometimes the picture frame on the wall looks crooked. It's not crooked, I just can't see where the wall meets the ceiling or another wall so I don't have any parallel lines to compare with the picture. 2. Described $1 3. Anxious? No. But more aware of them? Yes. They're the cues I need to understand my surroundings.
oldfogey123453 points1y ago
Much appreciated.
PublicViolinist42282 points1y ago
Hey! I am an undergraduate student at Appalachian State University and I am doing a research project about person-first versus identity-first language in regard to Blindness/Visual Impairments. If you are diagnosed with Blindness/Visual Impairment, it would be super appreciated if you could fill out my survey!! It should only take about 5 minutes. https://forms.gle/FgvJpmY9kQNzHTCP9
TechnicalPragmatist2 points1y ago
Call me what you want it’s not what you call it, it’s how you treat me, and what really is your attitude. I don’t care about pc. Actions speak much much louder than words.
multikoen2 points1y ago
Hello,
I'm a product development student from the Netherlands and i am doing a project about blind people and cooking on induction stoves. My task is to create a add-on for blind people to help them using the induction stove. Because of the flatness in the induction stove, it is very hard to use for a blind person. My task is to make all touchbuttons tactile and help blind people postition their potts and pans on the stove.
Are there some people who might have experiences with cooking on a induction stove?
Or maybe some general problem while cooking while your blind?
Thanks a lot!
Koen
BlindManOnFire1 points1y ago
I cook on an induction stove. It's not as hard as you imagine. I often wet a sponge and quickly moisten the bottom of my pan just before setting it on a hot, flat burner. The sudden hiss of steam tells me I'm in the right place. From there I move the pan around a bit and listen to the hiss. When the hissing stops I know I've reached the edge of the burner. It only takes a second or two to do.
About a minute into cooking I pass my hand over the pan to feel for extra heat. If extra heat is coming from the left side but not the right I probably need to move my pan a bit to the left.
The hard part about cooking is reading the packaging. It's hard to tell what's in a can when we can't read the label. What I'm really hoping for is a cabinet mounted camera that reads nutrition labels aloud to me.
multikoen1 points1y ago
Thank you for your answer!
I've heard similar stories on using the warmth to place your pans.
Do you have turning knobs to control your stove, or do you use the touchpanel some have included?
BlindManOnFire1 points1y ago
The stove has turning knobs. The oven beneath it is digital. It's pretty easy to use. The temperature starts at 350 degrees Fahrenheit and each push of the button raises or lowers it by 5 degrees, so if I want to cook something at 375 I just push the up button five times.
Tlaljoc2 points1y ago
We are a group of engineering students from the University of Toronto, looking into the potential to redesign TTC's PRESTO ticket vending machines to improve accessibility for legally blind individuals who use public transit. We were looking to reach out to our target community and gather some feedback on the problems that this community faces and how well our proposed redesign would be accepted, if implemented in the real world.
If you could please take a few moments of your time to fill out this short survey, it would be greatly appreciated: $1
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Actually the ones in los angeles the metro talk so it’s fairly cool actually.
But more vending machines should. A friend who codes suggested to me that the machine should work with your phone and all of that could and should work with an app on the phone and the vending machines payment and chooseing can be done all via your phone. Cool idea.
TwoSunsRise1 points1y ago
Never been to Toronto but we've gotten public transport cards in London. The terminals were completely inaccessible. I guess the only thing that would helpful is audio feedback so we know what's on the screen and what we're tapping on. Maybe have a tactile button the person could push and that activates the audio feedback for that session only? Just some thoughts.
ViRiX_Dreamcore2 points1y ago
Hi everyone! Before I start, I'd like to. say that I am legally (half) blind myself to where contacts or glasses don't work.
A friend and I thought it'd be a cool idea to fan-describe Japanese anime for those who have a hard time or can't see it at all. We put together a survey regarding what people both like and don't lke about the current state of audio described material. Could you guys please take a moment to fill it out. It asks no personal information and would really help us get a better understanding of what people are wanting with audio descriptions. Thanks!
Lastly, I use audio description all the time myself, but want to get others' opinion and figured a google form would be the best way to do it.Thanks again!
Any suggestions on where to find technology resources on improving access to those who are blind or partially blind? In particular for website/social media experience.
I started at a new company 6 months ago and I feel it’s important to improve the accessibility as much as I can with what I have access to. When I mentioned it they were happy to purchase braille menus and I’ve already reached out to a non-profit that specializes in improving accessibility but unfortunately I feel I don’t have the financial backing and interest of my company to participate in some of their programs or training they offer. And I don’t feel comfortable just buying something braille and going “we are accessible!”
In summary, I’m happy to learn/self teach as much as I can as a sighted person and then hopefully implement it. I just don’t have that knowledge and was looking for resources, YouTube videos or websites I can maybe learn from?
If there is a thread this might be better for me to ask elsewhere, happy to do that too. As I realize this question is more suited for people who are sighted and have done this before.
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Have you looked in to the wcag or something like that online guidelines on accessibility. That’s the best resource I think.
The problem is honestly if the company isn’t behind you not much can be done. As someone who likes to make changes and acomodate like you this is what I can find. It’s so much easier buying up braille stuff and happily declaring yaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!! We’re accessible now then to do anything honestly. It’s lip service and easy. Otherwise it’s not. Implement services. Nah that’s difficult. Provide accessible vi friendly service, sorry that’s too fricking hard. Really care about the blind and disabled. Meh sorry in our hearts of hearts we’re not really interested. It’s like that kinda. If that makes sense. It’s better to put up a front that we care. There’s genuine people who do care like you sure, but as a whole nope. As a totally blind very loud advocate and civil rights proponent advocating for integration, leveling the playing field, mainstreaming, acceptance, and the like you find out the hard truths no one cares nor wants it. Talk is cheap, doing nah. Too hard too much work we don’t want to spend even a little money.
Good on you you want it I am afraid you’re going to keep having to push be that examplar. There’s another place you can learn but will need you to pay for it. It’s like a course on how to make things accessible.
But besides general guidelines I don’t know if there’s that specific stuff but here and there. I wish there was a more comprehensive place for certain. Different disability places will post a lot of little tips and resources but yeah. Deeper dives you’ll need to take a course or something.
TwoSunsRise1 points1y ago
If it's a website then it could be voice over or screen reader accessible. I'm not technical so I can't give details but a google should come up with something. Otherwise, I don't know what your business is so it's hard to comment.
N0b0dyCaresAb0utY0u2 points1y ago
Hi I'm a college student and I'm in an entrepreneurship class andwe had to come up with a product. The product for my group is sBraille. It's a device for the visually impaired that plugs into a monitor and converts digital text to braille. More in depth information about it will be in the survey. The survey is a buying intentions survey to see if people would buy this product and how much. The link to the survey is in the post amd thank you for taking the time to take it if you decide to. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdJXZHsO3V2Efd38SAKEI59KI1Z-30es7SPMwp4BEvJjOT9NA/viewform?usp=sf_link
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
I would yeah, sounds like an interesting idea. I don’t have a lot of money plus I am a techy so if I can play with a new device I think I will. That’s pretty interesting. Are you actually thinking of selling these or are these just a theory haha!
N0b0dyCaresAb0utY0u1 points1y ago
This is just a theory for our project.
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
I see that sounds fun. That sounds interesting not sure how realistic it is though for 300 or 300 something. Look in to a braille display made in india called the braille me. Out of the cheap devices it’s probably the best and most reliable. The orbits are okay but the braille me has held up better.
research-throwaway-12 points1y ago
Hello r/Blind! I'm working on a school project that we hope to take to market - tactile at-home tests, think covid-19 and pregnancy tests.
Some info about us: we're a team of MIT graduate students, including industrial designers, a hardware engineer, and a previous startup founder. We think we can get this into the market / wider use.
We want to interview people who have taken a pregnancy test within the last year or two about your experience. If anyone is local to the US east coast, we'd love to potentially connect in person for a usertest with the prototype as well. Thank you!
research-throwaway-12 points1y ago
Just to add to this - we've budgeted $25 for taking the test and roughly and hour of feedback. Please let me know if anyone is interested!
Migmatite1 points1y ago
I took a pregnancy test two months ago and couldn't read the results. Thankfully I wasn't some teen taking one in the bathroom at a gas station like in the movie Juno, and just had my husband read the results.
Next time I have to take one, I plan on using one that simply says "yes" or "no" and seeing if the app Seeing AI will pick it up and read the results. Pregnancy test aren't exactly something I want to use Aira or BeMyEyes for.
research-throwaway-11 points1y ago
Thanks for sharing! Sent you a message :)
Unlikely-Choice2 points1y ago
**What annoys you about being VI or blind?**
Are there daily tasks you're struggling with? Or the ignorance of sighted people for example. Or maybe inaccessible things around you. Perhaps you are annoyed with yourself sometimes. Just throwing things in the mix here.
BlindManOnFire2 points1y ago
Food packaging.
The spice bottles are all the same size, the cans of soup are the same size, so are the canned fruit, soft drinks are the same size as beer cans, and they're all getting harder and harder for me to tell apart.
Unlikely-Choice2 points1y ago
Thanks for responding!
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
That the playing field is not quite equal yet. That sometimes bob and joe can but we can’t especially if you’re totally blind and the world doesn’t give a single frick about it. And kind of don’t like you especially if you’re a bit of an activist and openly pushy and ask about it and push for change. Not that I start off that way or progressively get more pushy and challenging about it and asking for change.
There’s plenty of software that is not accessible processes that are outdated and done through paperwork.
Also people don’t want to change generally or want to be educated. The system won’t change because *sigh* yes it’s the system. I love civil rights but it’s a hard thing to go in to change making.
That blindness is a lesser civil right. We all know about gays, race, transgender, etc…. What about blindness and disabled what about the ada. Teachers will rush through those like okay I covered them are you freaking happy now? Civil rights movies won’t cover the ada! But…… but… but.. it’s civil rights too.
Unlikely-Choice2 points1y ago
Right?? I totally agree
TechnicalPragmatist2 points1y ago
Glad you agree indeed. I try to do what I can for the community speak up as much as I can, recommend changes try to push the system towards change. Educate those who need education tirelessly. But the system won’t budge. Some may try to do it to appease me but I know deep in their hearts they don’t want to change.
I want to better it for blind people but it is not often easy.
TwoSunsRise1 points1y ago
The biggest thing is transportation issues. Especially in America where public transportation, even in large cities, is almost pointless. We have to use uber a lot which gets super expensive.
Unlikely-Choice2 points1y ago
What do you mean by pointless exactly?
TwoSunsRise1 points1y ago
Basically, if you don't live in very specific areas of town and then work in very specific areas of town, there's no way for you to use public transportation.
Unlikely-Choice1 points1y ago
Oh right, yes, that sounds annoying
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BecomingRentABLE1 points1y ago
Hi! We are trying to expand accessibility in short-term vacation rentals beyond just wheelchair accessibility- to include vision as well as hearing and Autism/IDD accessibility. What do you need or want in a short-term rental to make it more accessible for you? Thanks so much!
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The_Confused_NPC1 points1y ago
I am not blind and I probably won't release this story but is it ableist if I made a blind character that has a familiar a bird that they can use to see. They don't use it all the time and Thier okay being blind, they never get cured it's just a bird that they can use to see with.
awesomePV1 points1y ago
The URL didn't work in the previous comment, so commenting again:
Hey everyone!! I am a graduate student from the University of Maryland Baltimore County, I am conducting a short online survey to understand the experiences of individuals with disabilities in accessing digital healthcare applications like patient portals, mobile healthcare apps, and assistive technologies. If you are 18 years or older and self-identify as having any disability, I would be extremely grateful if you could complete my survey. It should only take a few minutes. Here's the survey link: https://bit.ly/3LNggjz If you need any assistance with the survey please contact: Parijat Saxena, Graduate Student, Department of Information Systems University of Maryland Baltimore County (443-929-6529, psaxena1@umbc.edu) Vineela Matta, Graduate Student, Health Information Technology Department University of Maryland Baltimore County (667-351-7864, $1)
I am also looking to interview people, if that is something that interests you please let me know! via dm/email/messaging
Then_Process1 points1y ago
Hello people, I am a design student working on designing aids for visually impaired (understanding partial and total blindness, amblyopic any form of visual impairment will help at the moment). I am trying to map out a day in the life of a visually impaired person. If anyone is open to sharing your experiences, it'd be of immense help to me. Thanks in advance :)
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Sure I’d help. Do you want me to outline it here. I don’t really have a set schedule. It would take a long time for me to type. If that’s best I’ll do it if not then maybe a call will work.
Are you trying to figure out what kind of thing to design?
I mean ultimately you’ll get various answers here..
Some are more independent, and some are less, some get out a lot some don’t. Some you’ll never catch them depending on people, they rather die first. Some are really dependent and sheltered. I am much closer to the former.
I am a total, I am totally blind but very busy and very independent. I study computer science and help out and get involved in my community and generally do a lot.
I would say I do fairly normal things.
I get to school and am a student, I get out and go to church and right now found a group who sings at the beach.and have joined them and will go every sunday. I listen to sermons, and study things for fun. I come on line to. Help people and to see what I can find online on these forums. When I can afford to or have money, I like to do yelping or food hunting.
I love advocacy, helping people out, representing, community type work, etc…..
I tinker with computers and stuff for fun also.
I enjoy talking about theology or other topics for fun as well.
I think inherently I do very similar things as most people, just that I do them a little bit differently.
awesomePV1 points1y ago
Hey everyone!! I am a graduate student from the University of Maryland Baltimore County, I am conducting a short online survey to understand the experiences of individuals with disabilities in accessing digital healthcare applications like patient portals, mobile healthcare apps, and assistive technologies. If you are 18 years or older and self-identify as having any disability, I would be extremely grateful if you could complete my survey. It should only take a few minutes. Here's the survey link: https://umbc.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV\_9FQHZtOVhs5drzo If you need any assistance with the survey please contact: Parijat Saxena, Graduate Student, Department of Information Systems University of Maryland Baltimore County (443-929-6529, psaxena1@umbc.edu) Vineela Matta, Graduate Student, Health Information Technology Department University of Maryland Baltimore County (667-351-7864, an53096@umbc.edu)
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
The link I clicked on it it said not found.
Also if you want to interview or talk to someone about this that would be great too. I am willing to help.
Sounds like an interesting project you’re doing and not the same old tired out thing.
awesomePV1 points1y ago
Hi, this is so great that you want to get interviewed! it would really help me. Could you please try this link to fill the survey: $1
Also could you please share your email id/phone number so we could setup a webex or google hangouts meeting to have an interview.
you can also contact me and my team member on the above phone number or email address.
Thank you!
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Sure I’ll message you with it. This afternoon
awesomePV1 points1y ago
That's great looking forward to it!
questionsaccount51 points1y ago
I'm working on a post apocalyptic setting and was planning on adding a solitary blind character.
As I'm not blind so I have no idea how hard or easy it would be for a blind person to navigate let alone survive in a postapocalyptic city without any help and infrastructure designed to aid them. Would the cane be enough? How would they build a fire or collect firewood? How would they go about exploring brand new places without the help of streetsigns and maps? Would they have to just memorize everything?
Any help or pointers reagarding this would be very much appreciated. Thank you!
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Hmm… interesting.
I don’t actually know if this is really that doable or possible. And if a blind person would survive absolutely alone.
I would imagine if someone was top of the game with independence let’s suppose, I am quite independent myself.
I would say yes they could get about fine without street signs and maps blind people can’t read street signs and sometimes only maps are helpful. So without these it is possible.
The main issue realistically is after such an event all the debris, all the waste, maybe dead bodies. That doesn’t quite work for the blind person. One can use a cane to get around for certain, but the issues are is the landscape going to be dangerous. Is there left over dangers that a blind person can’t avoid. Like explosives?
Also I suppose the blind person could mind for refuse but can only do so for so long. Hunting and gathering would be extremely difficult for a blind person. And doing their own farming is also not that easy. Finding a forest and trying to live in it and live off of plants is also exponentially harder as a blind person.
The entire firewood thing starting the fire would be the easy part. Going around finding the firewood would be much harder.
questionsaccount51 points1y ago
Thanks for the info! I was already leaning towards giving the character some sort of help (temporary or not). I suppose she's going to need it. :)
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
No problem. Happy to help. If you have other questions please feel free to ask or keep asking. And if you directly want to ask me that’s fine too.
I think she’s going to need it hahaha! But yes don’t coddle her or make her disabled or can’t do anything or the person tries to help her too much but the balance is good. I’ve answered quite a number of writers on this thread and a few others you can look through my profiles for some ideas.
Volgrand1 points1y ago
Hello and thanks for your time & kindness :)
English is not my main language, despite many years living in the UK. So if any sort of offensive question or wording is seen, please do let me know because it certainly was not my intention :)
I am writing a short novel in which the main character becomes blind due to supernatural reasons in modern-day setting. Then I keep narrating her day-to-day life some years later, when shehas already learnt to live with her new visual impairment.
So, I would like to ask some questions about daily basic activities for a blind person. The main topics would be:
* How is it to navigate through yor home? And how's it in the outside? * How do you organize your house to be able to find anything you may need? Such as the house keys, kitchen ware, etc. * Do you cook? Is there any way of cooking that is especially difficult for a blind person? How do you manage in the kitchen (meaning about using knives, hot oil, firepans and the sort)? * What sort of technological aids do you use for your disability? For instance, navigation apps or similar? * Do you require help often? When you do, what's the most likely situation that may require for you to ask for aid? * Can you tell me, on general terms, how does a school for blind children work? What differences in the teaching methods are when compared with regular schools?
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I had not thought about a compensation. If you feel these questions are too long to answer shortly, please let me know and we can discuss your cmpensation.
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Thank you very much :)
TechnicalPragmatist2 points1y ago
* What sort of technological aids do you use for your disability? For instance, navigation apps or similar?
There are many and varried. Most phones and computers now have a screen reader built in natively. Sscreen readers read what you have readily available on the screen and provides a way for blind people to use technologies. It reads files, webpages, and most things besides pictures. Though there is a way to code that makes it hard for screen readers to access it. It will not read pictures and most blind people do not have access to pictures unless the text is written in the code of the picture and sourced out to the screen reader but is invisible to everyone else. It is called alt text. It will describe a picture. Modern screen readers are trying now to use ai technoligies to describe pictures but unfortunately it is not always successful. Sometimes the alt text is better and the description provided by the ai is strange and sometimes outright humorous. Once it told me there was a hospital in a guitar. Another time it told me that the liberty bell picture I took was actually gym equipment. really. Ai generated image descriptions isn’t that detailed yet.
For screen readers, ios has voice over android has talk back windows has narrator, chrombooks has chromevox, macs also has voice over all apple products do including ipads and apple watches. Additionally windows has third party screen reader such as Jaws which is commercially available and people pay for it, it can be quite expensive, and then also nvda is an open sourced project that is a free screen reader to download. A lot more people use these for now but the windows narrator screen reader is catching up nicely.
I also use something called optical character recognition or also Ocr for short. And this can scan printed materials like mail and papers that I can’t read with absolutely no vision. I remember in fifth grade a substitute handed me a paper and expected to read it. It was pretty funny. I think I was trying to mock her by pretending to read it and be a smartaholic hahah! But honestly we can’t read that type of thing so we really rely on scanning and optical character recognition software to do this job for us. On the phone there is several voice dream scanner is the best of the best but there are also seeing ai and envision ai to help. On the computer side of things kurzweil is the most popular and also open book. Which is two ocr software programs. I have a flatbed scanner on my desk and I scan in everything from mail to books to printed materials. Unfortunately it can’t recognize images quite yet and is not up to par with that type of thing, and so a picture heavy thing it would either do poorly or skip the pictures.
There are apps on the phone to recognize money called money identifiers, and color identifiers that would recognize and tell what colors the object or piece of clothing is. There is a mode to help with taking pictures as well. There are a few gps apps on your phones. There are apps that can help you download descriptive movie and tv show tracks and would sync it to the movie. There an app or two to recognize and read the labels on pill bottles.
There are apps to connect to places that read out audio books or put them on a radio type forma. Also apps that can read and download braille format books. Not that audible or ibooks or kindle doesn’t work. Wel or something.
There are games for the blind as well.
There are apps that connect you to an agent and that agent or volunteer that can help blind people. Be my eyes is free and connect you to a sited person who volunteers their time and just want to be a good person and help out the blind. There’s a paid version of these where agents are actualy trained to do this job and provide more of a professional type approach to these things.
There are also a plethora of other stand alone specialized devices that can do the same thing. There is a thing called the colorino that will tell you what color things are and has a light detector. This is like your color identifiers. There is the orcam which helps with reading texts aloud and recognizing objects if you program it in, and can serve as ocr. There is a stand alone thing called the pearl camera which serves as a similar job. I think and don’t quote me on this specific thing but maybe there was something called a sarah that did the same thing.
There are multiple like 2 to 4 companies that makes their own blind PDAs hand held type blind tablets with a braille keyboard. Though a blind person can type on a regular qwerty keyboard like I am doing now connected to a regular iphone running voice over. I saw a newer PDa and it ran a older version of android though those are limited. A little bit.
There’s a modified and specialized tape players to basically play either cds, tapes, or just stuff. You can download or load on to it through a usb. But all this is like specialized digital players.
I’ve seen a talking measuring tape. A talking compass. Thermometers that would talk, cooking, medical, and just weather type ones.
There are cooking talking scales and bathroom scales. There’s also talking pedometers I am diabetttic and there is one or two talking glucometers. Theres definitely talking blood pressure machines. There’s a talking microwave. There are a lot of braille and talking watches but a lot of us now use an apple watch that can talk to us because it has voice over built in. There are talking calculators I own a talking graphing calculator. The ti84 that talks it is called the orion ti84.
There are also talking dictionaries. That are out there.
There are screenes that are braille scrreens and you. Hook them up and they work like computer monitors but for the blind. They read one line at a time and don’t do pictures though. They work in tandem with a screen reader.
There are braille printers that can hook up to a printer and can print out braille or we call it embossing we call these embossers. It will produce embossed out braille pages. So basically a printer but in braille. They can also print out both print and braille some of the more expensive ones.
I’ve probably left something out but on the top of my head that’s what I got for that question but you get the idea there’s plenty you didn’t probably know.
* Do you require help often? When you do, what's the most likely situation that may require for you to ask for aid?
Different blind people have different answers to this one. I am a very independent, resilient, determined person. I don’t ask for help all that often.
I may ask for visual type things though, seeing a sign on a restaurant or a street sign. Or sometimes crossing a busy tricky road. Sometimes just driving me places because the bus doesn’t go there, or it’s faster, or because simply I am carrying some heavy stuff. I can’t get in my own car and drive myself or even ride a bike, scooter, or hoverboard there. Sometimes in an unfamiliar place or a place hard to navigate I will have someone help me a little from point a to b sometimes asking for directions.
* Can you tell me, on general terms, how does a school for blind children work? What differences in the teaching methods are when compared with regular schools?
Well a lot of people encourage mainstreaming, which is placing children in to regular schools and education and regular classrooms. Sometimes they are contained in a resource room until a certain age or throughout school sadly.
Schools for the blind teach people slower and definitely have all the blind or braille materials there that they need to teach the blind. But they don’t always do a good job at it. A lot of those schools are mixed with people with special needs otherwise and can be a school for those who need more time or care. They are slower and you definitely do not learn as much as other type schools. They tend to be residential but if you live near by you can go for the day or go there as an after school program. The teachers are more trained or more geared towards working with the blind and other disabilities. It resembles more of a special education institution and environment. In the US ones you don’t learn as much and there is more of a isolated type situation where there is a bubble that’s formed. Unfortunately it’s very institutionalized and kids of these schools are either socially or academically behind or often both.
The class sizes at those places are usually smaller.
The risks of the public schools are they are unwilling or unready with materials to teach you with dependent on the school district. Some are really good and some are really bad. The mainstream teacher may or may not be open and ready to teach a blind student. Sometimes they are pulled in to a resource room which is somewhat similar to a blind school but this would be a room in a regular school.again dependent on the district some of these may be more or less prepared.
The education quality is higher in a mainstream class if done well. And the student ready to keep up depends on the person and how well they were prepared and the parents attitudes.
Volgrand1 points1y ago
Again, thank you so very much. With your answers I've gone from zero to... well, let's say enough to actually write about this without messing up very badly, ha, ha, ha!
Thank you again :)
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Not a problem. Happy to help.
education was what I was aiming for.
And yes that sounds interesting.
If you have any more ideas or questions feel free to ask or inbox me. I’ve actually done a lot of explaining and education over the years so I like doing it and enjoy helping. I’ve done a lot of it so feel free to ask and I’ll answer when I can.
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Saw this a few hours ago but it will be lengthy so got home and have some time now.
Maybe it will be a short novel of my own. Heh! :d
* How is it to navigate through yor home? And how's it in the outside?
As a quite independent blind person who has been totally blind most of my life before this I had very little vision to begin with, probably not much to even talk about.
I navigate fine around my house. After you have been in an environment for a long time you know your surroundings. Either through habit and practice or memorization. If you keep your house organized I think you’ll be fine. My family isn’t very organized but I am in general as a person and it’s very helpful. Even people who are less organized sort of know where they place stuff in their own messes. I have a very organized way about me. I also use proprioception and spacial awareness. I don’t use a cane inside and most people don’t. Putting things in it’s proper place is quite important and people not moving things is pretty important too.
Navigating outside is definitely takes training or natural talent. Sometimes a combo between talent and practice. I use a cane and frequently go places on my own. I take trains and buses and sometimes get rides and sometime take ride share but less frequent. These days I get rides from people more often because of the pandemic but should get back on the buses. I travel by using my cane and memorizing or logically figuring out where the city leads me. And how the city is laid out. But after a while it’s more about memorizing your surroundings, mind mapping and understanding how your city is laid out and memorizing your surroundings. Sometimes it is through logically figuring out your surroundings. I traveled to 6 different states by myself on the eastern seaboard of the united states. I myself live on the west coast. I went by myself as a single blind woman and got only very minimal help. I could have fooled people i was a local there and I got around just fine, logically and figured out things. It took me a few days before I figured out some parts of the city of philidelphia. I almost took another blind person back to his home from a restaurant but I think he was too embarrassed so we took a ride home. I have traveled many times and all around the los angeles county including many times in the city of los angeles and hollywood. I also know the next county over of orange county pretty well and have done a fair share of traveling in it though the buses are unfortunately so much better in Los angeles county. Though orange county transit isn’t that bad.
* How do you organize your house to be able to find anything you may need? Such as the house keys, kitchen ware, etc.
If you always put it there you won’t forget it and just strictly good organization helps anyone find things right? Some strategies is to categorise or to label things. Some labels can be in braille, or with just dots or labels read by your phone through qr technology or through voice in some fashion. You can organize ingrediance, cans, and even spices this way. The most efficient is probably to braille out the precise name of the item. This works best with cans or jars, or spice jars. If it is a silverware or key categorizing and remembering and having a system of organization is easier. Also remembering what key looks or feels like what is very important. My house key is that really round one at the top. My mailbox is the key with the octagonal metal piece. My key to work is the really short or really thick key. The biggest key is to my father’s house. That smallest key is to my office.
* Do you cook? Is there any way of cooking that is especially difficult for a blind person? How do you manage in the kitchen (meaning about using knives, hot oil, firepans and the sort)?
I can cook but not too much, and it has nothing much to do with blindness I just don’t enjoy it. I think if you don’t know how to cook and don’t have much training yes it can be dangerous especially the stove.
You use knives really carefully and with spacial awareness or proprioception. You know where the hand with the knife is. And your other hand that gides it. If it’s something small and not that hard to cut you can guide it with your hands and have your fingers away from the knife and a little back. You would feel out where you would cut first then get out of the way of the knife with your other hand if it’s chopping or somehow harder you would move your hand out of the way and just cut it or chop it.
You are very careful with hot pans and oils you pour slowly and carefully either in to the hot source or the hot oil instead. Sometimes you can estimate and sometimes it’s easier to measure out before. You would be careful in carrying or bringing back and forth a hot pan. You also always know where you and your hand is in relations to the hot sources. Use spacial awareness or estimation. If you need to touch a hot pan for any reason silicon gloves may help or oven mits.
Volgrand1 points1y ago
That's an amazing answer to my questions. Thank you very, very much. Now I know a bit better how my characters will go around their lifes :)
OldManOnFire1 points1y ago
Navigating our homes is pretty simple. We know where everything is.
Navigating outside our homes is easier than most people realize. I don't have a driver's license anymore so anytime I'm out in public, I'm with the family member who drove me there so I'm almost always with a sighted guide when I'm out.
There really isn't a blind way of organizing a house or a kitchen. We just learn to pay attention to where we leave things if we want to find them again. A person who can see might have a pantry shelf with canned fruit, canned chili, canned spaghetti sauce, and canned vegetables. A blind person can't read the labels on the cans very easily so we tend to keep the cans separate. Fruit goes on this shelf, chili goes on the next shelf, etc.
I cook quite often. I cook the same way I did before I lost my eyesight. The only real change I've made is to wrap elastic bands around the spice bottles so I can tell what's in them. One elastic for the nutmeg, two for the curry, etc.
The only aids I use are my white cane and my phone reads text messages aloud to me.
My wife reads my mail to me. She fills out all of the paperwork. We shop for groceries together but she's the one putting stuff in the cart now. We're both so used to it I don't really think of it as asking for help. She just does the things I can no longer do. The only time strangers helped me was at the airport, and I didn't ask - they volunteered.
AccessibleCrypto1 points1y ago
Hi everyone, hope you're well. We're researchers at Rochester Institute of Technology in the US and Bournemouth University in the UK running a 15-minute survey. We're hoping to understand accessibility challenges people have with cryptocurrencies and other blockchain-based technologies. Even if you have no experience with crypto, we're still interested in your input! You will be entered into a $100 USD raffle for completing the questionnaire. Thanks and here is the link: $1
Then_Process1 points1y ago
Hello everyone! I am a design student developing sports aids for visually impaired to make physical games more inclusive. My project is aimed at kids at the moment, but I'd love to know from you all what are the least talked about difficulties you face in the context of sports.
Wingsly1 points1y ago
Hi all! I am currently doing my masters thesis - I'm looking at how the use of replicas in museum exhibitions (specifically objects made from paper) can improve accessibility for visually impaired visitors as well as generally improve visitor experience for people of all backgrounds and needs. As an example of how it works in practice: using replicas would mean a higher light level could be used (paper objects are too fragile to displayed under high lux levels), allow for tactile engagement, enlargement, as well as remove the need for display cases (which give off glare).
If anyone would be interested in participating I would love to connect! Some of the questions do ask participants if they have had any positive or negative experiences related to display methods or already existing use of interactive media. If the survey doesn't interest you, but you have personal experience that is relevant I would love to hear about it. As much as I can research case studies, I know that I cannot understand in the fullest the gaps in accessibility that museums currently have, or the personal impact that these can have, so any comments would be immensely useful to how i develop and approach my research going forward.
Also, if anyone has advice on how to make my survey interface accessible for text to speech advice would also be massively appreciated! I'm currently using google forms - if anyone knows a platform that is more suited to text to speech software that would be brilliant!
Heres the link to the survey just in case anyones interested: $1
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Happy to chat. I think plastics may be better, I think they keep in better shape or metal type materials, but replicas are useful. At one point just feeling a smaller replica was useful. I was at the museum of the statue of liberty. Obviously even if you reserved and got to go up there I didn’t do this I bought a ticket on the day and was told to go up there you need to reserve months in advance, but it wouldn’t have been great because the statue was so big so the person who got assigned to me we felt different replicas. He gave me a tour type of thing and also explained things and helped me around the statue museum. It was pretty cool. There was a big touchable one that I felt a part of and a smaller one.
I can explain more I’ve been to a number of places especially historic type places and political establishments.
Wingsly1 points1y ago
u/TechnicalPragmatist, thanks for taking the time to reply! I briefly looked into the use of plastics as well, there was a really interesting project at the Prado museum in Spain which 3D printed a tactile surface following the contours of paintings from their collection. From what I heard it was a great success, because they developed a specific ink especially for it it was quite an expensive project - but I am sure there are far cheaper alternatives that could achieve a similar result. I find it interesting as well, because there is evidently so much potential to develop technologies like this to create very intimate experiences for people, yet there is almost an entirely single-track focus at the moment on VR technologies, which are inaccessible to lots of people.
Do you find sometimes that it is difficult to book guided tours in advance? Or generally have you found, like at the statue of liberty that it is often relatively easy to visit on the day and still get a good experience?
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
No problem.
Actually at the statue of liberty I had to argue with them to get help, but once i had the help the experience wasn’t bad.
The United Nations was the best walk up experience to get a guided tour. I had booked a spot but didn’t tell them I was blind. They were absolutely fricking wonderfully delightful.
That’s very true about Virtual reality you couldn’t use them. I think. Some of the ones I went to used it or some sort of video tour. You just walked down a hall and watched and looked at things and videos would play and they would not help me. That was at the mint.
That’s really interesting about the plastics with ink. But maybe the plastic doesn’t need ink and can be a separate item just for the blind. And would just rely on tactiles?
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BlindManOnFire1 points1y ago
There seems to be an assumption in your question that blind people shop at certain stores or buy certain products because they're accessible.
While that may be true for a small percentage of us, it's not true for most of us.
I didn't change grocery stores when I lost my vision. My favorite dance club is still my favorite dance club. I still like Wild Mike's pizza and Stouffer's lasagna. I still bank at the same bank, I still think the little Chinese restaurant on Goliad Street has the best won ton soup in Texas, and I still buy strawberry scented shampoo.
My preferences and tastes haven't changed.
If a shampoo brand started embossing their bottles with Braille I wouldn't switch brands. I like the strawberry scent of my current shampoo. If another Chinese restaurant in town offered menus in Braille I'd still go to the one on Goliad. If another dance club had disability parties every weekend I'd still go to the club where the DJ knows my favorite songs and the bartender sets two bottled waters on the counter for my wife and I before we even say hello.
Being blind has *nothing* to do with my favorite brands, stores, or retail decisions. Nothing at all.
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Exactly I wasn’t even sure how to answer this question.
NegetiveProton1 points1y ago
Hello everyone!
A group of students and I are working on a software application that has the sole intent of connecting disabled people with the community so that potential isolation is removed. The app's unique features are that it comes with many accessibility features for many common disabilities, such as voice assistant for the individuals with visual impairment, presentation of ASL for the hard of hearing, recall cards for Alzheimer's, larger buttons for tremor, and stutter detection for stuttering/stammering. Compared to already-existing virtual meeting apps, it is much more accessible and easy to use for challenged people.
In the beginning, it simply asks for the type of physical or mental disability. Using the aforementioned accessibility features, it will automatically determine the physical and mental disability based on the user's response (i.e. "Yes" to the app politely asking whether they are visually impaired using voice assistance). The app would then automatically change and optimize everything to allow an individual with that disability to use the app easily.
We would tremendously appreciate it if you were able to fill out a survey indicating whether you would download and use the app as an individual who is facing physical and mental disabilities.
I wouldn’t, I don’t think. The problem is really that there is a lot of drama going on in disabled communities. Much of this is petty, unconstructive, and highly unnecessary. I am usually not isolated also, I make acquaintances pretty readily
BlindManOnFire1 points1y ago
This might be a good idea for a public computer found in a library, but not for our personal laptops or cell phones. 99% of us already have our personal electronic devices set up to accommodate our disabilities.
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
I don’t think it sets up the entire computer but it’s own app but what they are trying to get at is a social media platform for the disabled.
baldurharaldsson1 points1y ago
Hi everyone. My name is Baldur and I have a question related to building design for you.
I’m doing a project in my master studies in architecture regarding design of wall panels and instead of going for an decorative or accoustical purpose I want to see wether this can be an opportunity to help individuals with visual impairment/low vision/blindness.
I have no specific idea at this point but instead would love to hear from you if you think there could be an opportunity here. Wether it is related to helping kids with engagment, play and excercising tactile experiences, or general guidance and information for people of all ages and stages in life, at home or in public buildings.
I would love to hear if you think of a situation where a three dimensional wall element can make, or has made, your life easier, educational or just simply more fun. The same goes for if you already know of an existing design then I would love to hear about it.
Thank you and don’t hesitate sending me questions as I know this might be a bit too open.
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Maybe to mark which building is what by the door. Like a symbol this building has this feature and that one has that. Kind of landmarking if you will?
baldurharaldsson1 points1y ago
That could be a very interesting idea and also propably useful for just about anyone. Thanks!
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Yes often surprisingly things that benefit disabled people also can benefit anyone honestly they just don’t think it will and yeah, it’s an interesting idea. It’s a cool one landmarking. Be cool if noises were made too since you are an architecture student I wonder if you can build that in, build in some sort of noice thing or something soothing but interesting sounds at each building like a certain type of music or waves or a babbling brook or something build in a speaker in to the wall or something another way to landmark and mark off buildings will also work on ambience too.
baldurharaldsson1 points1y ago
Yes exactly, I did my bachelor thesis about architectural experience of public buildings from the point of view of visually impaired and blind individuals where we walked around my city and talked. I agree with those that have pointed out the sad truth about how good and bad architecture today is mostly decided through a camera lens. That whole process really had an impact on me and I want to focus on universal design in general but then this conversation between designer and users needs to constantly take place.
Having said that, anyone who has a comment/idea/thought about new things or things that could be better can bombard my account with direct messages.
Regarding this idea, it would be interesting also just to dive deeper into how you would landmark a specific building with a specific noise or sounds, and how it would differenciate between buildings.
originalboyjosh1 points1y ago
Resources for blind children/babies
Hello there, I am in the process of starting an Non for profit for blind children/babies. What are some resources that blind children need more access to? Or what are somethings that could make your/ blind child’s life alot easier?
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Integration and learning to socialize. And how to do it well and how to be a normal person learning to be like the rest. Blind children and sometimes even blind adults lack the means to communicate especially if totally blind. If you teach the children to communicate well and stuff this will be good teach body language and socialization skills and encourage mixing with sighted children.
yumi10301 points1y ago
Hi! We are a team of undergraduate design students at UCSD in a startup studio course looking to improve the accessibility of visually impaired individuals. This short survey will help us identify pain points of visually-impaired people and understand their experiences. This will take <5 minutes of your time. Thank you in advance!
Have you guys thought of point of sale machines or improving vending machine experience stuff like things you can buy candy or soda from or something like that
Or point of sale machines and self check out type situation. Also the little machines credit and debit card machines are likewise not accessible.
yumi10301 points1y ago
Oh we haven't thought about that! Thank you so much for your input! It really helps!
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
No problem otherwise it’s like reinventing the wheel this is a lesser done one. This one is actually a pretty big barrier and blind people can’t pay and use those themselves and require another person the cashier or self chec out attendant to help. This is why blind people rarely use self check out. Would be cool though or walk up to a vending machine and just buy your. Own snack.
There’s two ways to solve this fortunately. Make an app to work with the machine or b make the machine more accessible by braille labels and speech. And an accessible interface.
Dangerous_Ad16661 points1y ago
Hello, my team and i are working on a university project for computer science. We are designing artificial intelligence glasses and application to aid visually impaired and blind people with scanning surroundings or text whether on screen or on paper and organizing their clothes by color without the need for traditional tools. If anyone here is visually impaired, blind or knows someone who is, we would be grateful if you could fill this survey. Thanks in advance! $1
BlindManOnFire2 points1y ago
One of the questions on your survey is "Do u think these glasses would be beneficial?"
My survey options are yes or no. The reality is more nuanced.
As a means to navigate, nope. Talking eyeglasses telling me what's ahead on the sidewalk would annoy the crap out of me. I do just fine with my white cane or holding my wife's hand. An extra voice in my ear competing with my surroundings for my attention would be a potentially dangerous distraction.
But if those glasses could read text aloud to me on command, then yes, that would be very beneficial.
I've answered enough of these kinds of questions to recognize the survivor bias implicit in them. Sighted people see us on the street and want to help us, so they start dreaming up ways to help us navigate the streets. Perfectly logical and compassionate.
But I spend very little time on the street. And since I don't drive anymore, if I'm out in public I'm with the family member who drove me there.
Most of my time is spent in my home where sighted people don't see me. As the saying goes, out of sight, out of mind. Aspiring engineers don't see us in our homes so they don't think about the help we need there. The assumption seems to be "Well, that's their home - they're familiar with it and don't need help there like they do in public."
While there's some truth in that, it overlooks important aspects of our reality.
Imagine every can of food in your kitchen has a blank label. How can you tell the beans from the peaches? How do you know which kind of soup you have, or when it expires, or if it contains something your daughter is allergic to?
Is this a beer or a soda? Is it diet or regular? Coke or Pepsi? Root beer? You can't just open it and put it back if it's not what you're looking for - it will go flat and be ruined.
Those aren't the challenges sighted people see so they aren't the challenges they're trying to solve. Unfortunate, because that's the help I need.
Smart glasses that can read the cooking directions and nutrition labels? Yeah, I'd buy that. But smart glasses to tell me what my white cane already knows? No thanks.
Dangerous_Ad16663 points1y ago
Thank you so much for your response, it made things way more clear and we will definitely put everything that you've said in mind starting by removing the navigation and im sorry if i offended you in any way.
BlindManOnFire2 points1y ago
You didn't offend me at all, and you're welcome. DM me if I can be of assistance =)
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
I think there are already solutions like this but making glasses apps sounds cool. I definitely think this is great if we can tell it to tell us what is relevant but not everything in front of us read a door sign.
I travel and explore the city quite a bit and also very independent and have issues with reading door signs, hours, and finding a business. I don’t need it to tell me what is going on every minute but if I command it to yes if I pressed a button or prompted it somehow to read the door sign is this shop joes dentist or is this vons or is this yummy yummy sandwiches? No. Oh this is wells fargo oops well lets’ see the next door. Or a street sign or even the color of the traffic light but I have to want it. Not everything. My cane will generally tell me what’s in front of me.
I use nothing around the house I am familiar and memorized it I just walk around with me and my feet hahaha! So I checked other. Memorization proprioception?
You also can’t use voice over to navigate around your house or outside. It can’t do that, gps maybe? But voice over that just sounds wrong and riddiculous hahaha! I don’t even know what you mean.
Also why can’t we use these glasses on top of a cane though so both not replacing it but extra mobility aid. It would be a good enhancement but I like my cane and nothing can replace it but things can enhance it for sure.
Dangerous_Ad16661 points1y ago
Yes, ofcourse it's by command. Regarding the voice over we were just curious if anyone generally uses siri for example and we will take what u said into consideration. Thanks alot for your response!
TechnicalPragmatist2 points1y ago
Yeah, that makes sense.
That sounds pretty impractical no one does that and I don’t know how you get around anywhere by siri to get around. I am a bit confused.
And no problem. I do a lot of traveling so if you want some help let me know and if you want to talk about it. I do some extensive traveling. I think if it screams tree tree grass grass I’d be extremely irritated but there are visual cues I wish it would see like some of the stuff I listed. Also walking up it would be cool if it could read menus at restaurants and wouldn’t it be cool if it could read a memo on that door that your professor wrote that class is canceled instead of wondering why no one was in there and why no one is showing up for 20 minutes hahaha!
Or it would be great to somehow track the line somehow at the grocery store to see when it moves up. If that’s possible.
Dangerous_Ad16661 points1y ago
Yeah that makes sense, all of these are great ideas. I will definetly tell my team about it!
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yynp1 points1y ago
Hi, first of all, i'm sorry for any misspelling, english isn't my mother language and i'm not the best english speaker, so, my name is Yago and i'm a brazilian student, i'm participating of something called "HackBarão", this is a "Hackathon", if you don't know what it is, basically they give us a theme and we have to find a problem and make a prototype to solve it, this edition theme is urban mobility, and me and my group want to make something related to the obstacles that people with reduced mobility and visual impairment have to face everyday, so i'm asking directly to you what these obstacles are, if we "win" the hackathon we receive support to maybe release our solution to everyone, we have some ideas but we are only on the beginning of the path and we want to increase our field of view. If you have something to share feel free to DM me if you want. Thanks!
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
Sure there are a lot of such machines already but you can feel free to dm and we can talk about it either dm or voice interview type thing there’s a lot of mobility aids. Have you guys thought of point of sale machines though.
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