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Full History - 2022 - 04 - 20 - ID#u86gp1
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things ive been asked while in the ER today (self.Blind)
submitted by Bsmith0799
1. How do you have a light sensitive migraine if you're legally blind

2. Are you driving yourself home?

3. I don't know if we allow things like that in the hospital, they could be used as a weapon (my cane)

4. Just keep an eye on that IV bag for me and ring the bell if it's empty. (Too far away for me to see).

5. Are you able to use the toilet on your own or do you need help?
slotherwordly 31 points 1y ago
Condolences, squared. Firstly on the ER trip and secondly on the shitty treatment. I was recently in the ER, In-patient care, and then rehab, as a health care surrogate; and was bombarded by all of their massive ignorance regarding my vision status and white cane/usage. It got to the point where unless it was a medically necessary question, I started every answer with some variation of, "thank you for the opportunity to correct your ignorance regarding vision disabilities, especially in a medical setting." It stopped almost all off the medically irrelevant questions thereafter. Hope you're free soonly.
Bsmith0799 [OP] 20 points 1y ago
I just find it funny they can't decide if I'm capable of driving, or not able to even use a bathroom myself
PrincessDie123 5 points 1y ago
Oh yeah I loved having to answer that one when I had a concussion from being a passenger in a bad accident last year, my white cane was totally bent and I could hardly speak but the officers kept asking if I was the driver, then the medical staff kept asking if I was the driver, and I was like for gods sake people I’m blind my med chart literally says I cannot drive, I’m not even comfortable in a wheelchair, plus the officer literally picked me up out of the passenger seat because I couldn’t stand up on my own so they knew I wasn’t driving.
DHamlinMusic 5 points 1y ago
Yeah, I am not quite total and got the driving question once. Never had the cane issue.
slotherwordly 3 points 1y ago
I'm glad you still can find humor in it. Truly. I was in there for a very long while. It got old quickly. Keep up the good cheer mate!
Bsmith0799 [OP] 6 points 1y ago
Eh I was just there for a migraine cocktail so only a couple hours
505Griffon 12 points 1y ago
I absolutely love your "thank you for the opportunity to correct your ignorance regarding vision disabilities..."
This is perfect and I hope you don't mind me using it in the future.
slotherwordly 6 points 1y ago
With my blessings! May it bring you as much joy as it does me.
TK_Sleepytime 29 points 1y ago
I once was told I had to remove my prosthesis for an MRI (unnecessary, but whatever) and while holding my eye in a biohazard bag the nurse asked me if I could see out of it. I responded, "No. I'm not a fucking muppet."
Bsmith0799 [OP] 7 points 1y ago
That one..
They may not have known 100% for sure that it didn't contain metal which was why they made you remove it.

But cmon now the last part is a bit ridiculous
TechnicalPragmatist 5 points 1y ago
Wait what the actual frick? Hahahahahahahahahaha! This is probably lack of common sense and most of it is asked out of ignorance not malice but this person really wasn’t thinking were they?
codeplaysleep 5 points 1y ago
I've been asked this question multiple times about my prosthetic eye - never by anyone in healthcare, though.
TechnicalPragmatist 2 points 1y ago
There’s always a first eh? :D

But that’s really weird common sense guys. Common sense. But oh wait. Common sense ain’t all that common right?
NoClops 3 points 1y ago
I had a DR tell me my pupil responded beautifully to the light he had shone in it. That was the plastic one. (Unsurprisingly, he was arrested for sex and drugs with his peds patients not a long while after that.)
flamboyantplatypus 3 points 1y ago
I'm baffled as to how the person that asked you that managed to become a nurse.
TK_Sleepytime 2 points 1y ago
I definitely had some things to say about that when I was sent the after visit survey.
FaerilyRowanwind 9 points 1y ago
Maybe canes should be used as weapons……….
Criptedinyourcloset 2 points 1y ago
Not gonna lie, I have used it as a weapon in some very precarious situation is.
FaerilyRowanwind 4 points 1y ago
I’ve a student that is tiny for her age that people ignore. She has straight up been told that her job is not to try and go around people but for people to go around her. Some kids ankles have definitely received a whack or two for not paying attention
Criptedinyourcloset 4 points 1y ago
Yes, the blind person’s creed. We will either go over it, around it, or through it. And if you’re a person, you can kindly take which pic of those three you want.
Central_Control 1 points 1y ago
I like that, I'm going to use it. It's very inspirational and positive. For blind people.

For everyone else, it means you'll get a blind person brushing by or a little tap on the foot that sometimes will scare them so bad, they'll squeak.

"WTF was that on my shoe!?! A Mouse? A bug? A cat?" They will now act like a 1950's mom jumping up on a chair to escape a mouse.
vbtodenver 9 points 1y ago
My ex-husband was questioned about his cane by security at the democratic national convention in 2016. (Same issue - could be used as a weapon). Ridiculous.
afraidofdust 8 points 1y ago
You heard it here folks, no canes allowed in the hospital! /s
letspaintthesky 7 points 1y ago
I recently had an anaesthesiologist ask me if I used 'that' for balance or something.
'It's for mobility because I'm vision impaired'
'Oh so it's for your eyes.'
'..yeah.'


Lets just say I didn't answer the way I really wanted to.
ElfjeTinkerBell 5 points 1y ago
As for point 5, as a nurse I literally ask this anyone who hasn't proven me they're able to. It may have just been a routine question.

The other ones... Yeah. I'm noticing the average person is quite stupid.
Bsmith0799 [OP] 6 points 1y ago
No, I understand asking it; it was the fact that it was asked within 30 seconds of "are you driving yourself home?"

As in, she asked me that on the way to the bathroom, then when we arrived she asked of I'm able to use the bathroom.

So I went from "able to drive" to "unable to use a bathroom independently" in like 30 seconds
ElfjeTinkerBell 1 points 1y ago
That's.... Very confusing.
TechnicalPragmatist 3 points 1y ago
Really it’s just ignorance and most people don’t mean it maliciously. I am sure that there’s some jerks who do but most people just don’t get it. So they ask stupid questions. Education is the best remedy unless the question is hostile which is pretty rare and obvious which standing up for yourself is pretty close.

The cane as a weapon one would probably get something sharp from me. That seems absurd. I’d almost want to say against who you? Are you that darn insecure about yourself and your safety. Who do you think I am going to try and fight in here?

In reality I am not sure what I would say probably ask them what they meant and how can it be, it’s a tool I need it to get around or some such thing.

I am usually pretty understanding but that would take the cake.


I get a lot of 5 though as a totally blind person or oh no stop you’re going to fall.

I sort of have to brag a little not that I want to but I need them to realize that I am not a baby and I can walk across the room or use the facilities and be fine. So it’s like I’ve traveled across the country by myself, totally alone, to 6 different state as a single blind woman. Do you honestly really believe I can’t do x. Excuse me. Sometimes at church I am asked and it’s like. Uh. Do you think after walking around on. My own around philly my first couple days there or nyc even around my home state where I currently reside in Los angeles county okay, do you think walking around a church or a sanctuary is that difficult, mind you I’ve been here 100s of times before? Nah I think it’s a piece of cake.
ElfjeTinkerBell 3 points 1y ago
>Are you that darn insecure about yourself and your safety.

From what I read, healthcare workers in the US have this fear rightfully. That does not mean they should ask this question about a cane, just clarifying that safety is really a problem over there.

>I sort of have to brag a little not that I want to but I need them to realize that I am not a baby and I can walk across the room or use the facilities and be fine.

As a nurse, if I haven't seen you actually doing that, I will ask you if you can do it on your own. Not because you're blind, not because you're in for problem X, but as a routine question. There's too many people who do not want/dare to ask for the help they need, so either you've proven to me you can do it, or you get the question.
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 1y ago
Oh are you a nurse that’s really cool.

Well. Maybe in certain areas I’ve certainly never been asked that but I guess in some areas you do certainly have to worry.


And yes that makes sense. Yeah, I guess my sharpness may be unwarranted so this is an interesting and helpful reply.
ElfjeTinkerBell 1 points 1y ago
It depends a lot on the nurse as well. I have colleagues who like to assume you can or cannot do something. They usually take action after someone fell. I prefer to either help when it's very obvious they need help, or ask. Even if I think it's very obvious you'll be able to do it yourself, but I have no proof yet, I'll ask something like "can I assume you'll be fine doing X?" (English is not my native/work language)
TechnicalPragmatist 2 points 1y ago
Interesting that makes sense. Thanks for that. Yeah, I like the ones that don’t assume things for sure.

Can I ask where are you from or what language that’s interesting though. You did reply at a sort of odd time hahahaha! Not that i care or mind but it’s like that makes sense. I mean uk or australia was awake then but yeah.
Central_Control 1 points 1y ago
> Education is the best remedy

It is. That would be great. Right now, there's about zero education on blind people, how to treat a person with a disability, abilities of blind people, and just general education. There are many, many people out there that want to cut all education funding across the board. They're not good people. They fight to make sure that education doesn't include even minimal education about the disabled. How do you get through elementary, middle, high, and nursing school without knowing what the function of a white cane is? That's 20 years of education, none of it even slightly being focused on the blind.

What, you've never had a nurse grab you by the arm and try to shove you where they want you? Because that's not how it works.

If you swing a multi-segmented break apart white cane fast enough to do damage, it will come apart in 4 pieces in the air from the speed of the swing. It will not be an effective weapon, and might hurt you. So don't do that. ♥
TechnicalPragmatist 1 points 1y ago
This is why more blind people have to speak up and advocate and educate others. I do a lot of this education work and go out of my way to do it.


I don’t ever use my cane as a weapon nor would I think about it.


Also I usually address it when nurses even kindly try to grab me, and politely educate and ask hey do you mind if I hold your arm. Thanks a lot. Do it with a smile and love and they’ll love you.
stirs 2 points 1y ago
Numbers 1,2, and 5 are just ignorant people trying to help you. While annoying, I don’t think they meant any harm.

Numbers 3 and 4 and just dumb, I get it
Bsmith0799 [OP] 4 points 1y ago
I have a history of migraines in my medical history. I've been to that exact hospital for extreme migraines before (i only go when they're so bad I can't do anything else).... I get asked #1 EVERY time.
stirs 1 points 1y ago
I can see how that would be frustrating
Bsmith0799 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Every time I give them the statistics, that only 10-15% of people who fall under the "legally blind" umbrella have NO sight at all... you'd think my history of having them would be enough to convince them its obviously possible
Central_Control 1 points 1y ago
I don't understand why there is absolutely zero training to deal with blind people in nursing or medical school. You would think the doctors would be smarter with their additional training, but they aren't. That's the job of random blind people, to train nursing and doctor staff. Seriously, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of education and never sit down with a blind person or have any blind training at all other than ocular anatomy and function.

They don't even teach kids in school what a white cane is, why it is, and how it works. At least not in this state. That's also the unpaid job of random blind people, apparently.

If you do anything other than answer all their extremely personal questions that they have no right to ask, you will get attitude. Because that's your job. Everyone knows that. So, whoever's out there answering every question, if you could stop for a little while, that'd be great. Tell them to go ask their mother, teacher, or the internet.
NoClops 1 points 1y ago
I was at a gynecologist appointment, and the nurse asked if I needed help getting dressed after my exam .
Bsmith0799 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
I would have asked how she thought you got the clothes on to begin with.
rumster 1 points 1y ago
I'm sure you have the same level of humor as I do and was just laughing in misery lol
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