Why do they teach you to shop without assistance at vocational rehabilitation centers?(self.Blind)
submitted by Raccoon_Tail33
I did this once at the center I attended and got very frustrated and anxious to the point I cried. Eventually, I found what my instructor tasked me to find, but since then, I never saw the point in shopping without assistance. The only way I could see a blind person doing this is if they knew the store's layout and exactly where everything was, but people don't always put things back where they belong, and stores go through renovations. Plus, what if I needed a certain type of something, like low sodium baked beans. I'm not going to stand there, aimlessly browsing through the cans, and there might not be someone in the isle I could ask.
All that to say...what's the point?
BlindGuyNW10 points1y ago
It is perhaps less about the act itself and more about building confidence. You managed to do it, despite the frustration, and that is no small feat. In the real world getting help with things is not something to be ashamed of but neither is it strictly necessary all the time. Just my 2 cents as someone who would prefer shopping with assistance when I can.
Raccoon_Tail33 [OP]5 points1y ago
It didn't really do anything for me, just made me not want to do it even more.
paneulo1 points1y ago
Two points: (1) while this particular task may not have been valuable for you, it may have been for others in the program, and (2) learning specific skills is the first step to learning generalizable skills. So while shopping independently without assistance may not have been something you needed to learn, who's to say that you won't need to do something requiring a similar skillset in the future. In short, it's not uncommon for students to not know why they had to learn something, or what the value of it is until later.
DrillInstructorJan4 points1y ago
I think what we are talking about here is that there are some things that are possible but not worth it. It's a picking battles thing. I know a couple of people who use wheelchairs and while it's a really bad idea to compare situations, they also have a list of stuff that's possible but too much of a faff when you can often just ask someone.
Personally I take the view that sometimes, asking for help frees up more time for things that are more worth the effort, but it's a philosophical thing really.
TechnicalPragmatist4 points1y ago
Good question. Why would they do that and what end that sounds really impractical and not at all helpful, and counterproductive. It sounds very far fetched and just useless. Sorry. No thanks.
What exactly are you suppose to do? How are you suppose to get through it and shop? I am quite independent and recognized widely as such thank you very fricking much. And I get an assistant when I go shopping thanks a lot! That doesn’t mean you’re not independent!!!!!!!!! *sigh dramatically* :D sometimes being independent and an adult and growing up is recognizing when you can’t do it, part of being confident is knowing when you need to ask for help. And you know what that doesn’t mean you are any less. It doesn’t mean you’re not good enough.
It’s just not effective to do it on your own.
We’re not asking or saying or at least I am not, to be coddled, sheltered, and let mummy do everything absolutely everything for you, nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! Of course not! And not even highly depend on people. But all of us asks for help and assistance even sighted people. You can be the extra stubborn one and never ever ever asks for any help whatever.
We don’t have to go to either extreme. Being your own person, making your own decisions, doing daily tasks by yourself, getting out on your own traveling the city by yourself all great. Shopping on your own/ that’s a bit much sorry.
What do they demand you do anyway?
Raccoon_Tail33 [OP]2 points1y ago
Thank you! I thought it was counterproductive myself, and my instructor asked me to find umbrellas, which were individually packed into little plastic bags, so the only way I knew what they were was asking a random passerby. By the time I found them, quite a lot of time passed, and I was beyond upset, crying, and frustrated.
Nope, never again.
TechnicalPragmatist1 points1y ago
I can see that this is rough for sure
thatawkwardcosplayer3 points1y ago
I live alone and have no family. My friends all work full time jobs. I have to shop alone, simple as that. I don’t really use any aids or anyone? But I also mostly shop at H-Marts or smaller Asian stores. Pretty easy compared the time I attempted Walmart alone. I can’t read most of the text anyway but it’s not that big of deal for me.
If I need something hyper specific like a certain medication then I might ask the shop keep for help? But I normally just grab it on my own. It takes way longer but I don’t mind.
NoClops1 points1y ago
My O&M instructor taught me that I could request an employee’s help. Just call ahead and let them know that you’re coming and will need assistance.
thatawkwardcosplayer2 points1y ago
Ooo alright! I wasn’t sure if that was a thing at Walmart or most stores tbh.
NoClops1 points1y ago
Gonna be honest, though, that I think I’ve only done this twice in my nearly 37 years. I would either use a delivery service for groceries, go with a family member or friend when they were grocery shopping, or now my husband likes grocery shopping as his alone/meditation time, so I don’t even have to worry about it anymore.
bradley223 points1y ago
I think it’s a confidence thing.
SoapyRiley2 points1y ago
Probably to prove to you that you can do it but it’s not at all time efficient. My wife does most of the in person shopping simply because she can see where I get overlapping images and have a narrower visual field so I miss things or take forever to find them. Time is precious and it’s stupid to waste it if there are other options.
bradley221 points1y ago
As someone from the UK living in London I'd love this. IN the UK or at least in London and in my experience, they don't really have much for the blind, once you've left school/college, you're basicly on your own when it comes to mobility.
Oh you can get a mobility trainer but there's no garentee they're actually good at their job.
So a rehab place where you can learn skills like this would be amazing for me.
Throw me in the middle of a city and tell me to find my way back home and i'd love it.
Tell me to shop with no asistance? I'm there, sign me up!
Tarnagona1 points1y ago
So you know you can do it? If you know how to find what you can, or find help in shopping, that’s an important skill, instead of relying entirely on a sighted friend/family to shop with/for you. This way, if something happens, and your usual sighted help isn’t available, you’re still able to go get your groceries yourself.
Now if they forbid you from asking for help from store staff during this exercise, that’s just unhelpful and kind of pointless.
Wolfocorn201 points1y ago
might inead be a confidance thin but pritty pointless if you ask me. I mostly get help when i go shopping it be friends, an employ at set store or the person who usualy helps me whit that kind of stuff. Caz even if you know the store upside down and inside out you can still walk out with a product that is about to expire way sooner than you might expect or the wrong brand or flavor.
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