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I love VoiceOver and the beautiful gesture commands on my iPhone, and was wondering if there was any similar system for Windows? (self.Blind)
submitted by ChipsAhoiMcCoy
I'm getting trained in JAWS and NVDA pretty soon, but I can't find myself but feeling like those are incredibly outdated compared to how smooth to o perate the VoiceOver feature is on iOS. I feel like gesture text to speech is a no brainer, and it almost opens up another dimension of possibility in devices and makes the whole learning process incredibly simple. Are there any s ort of gesture pads that you can purchase for windows that come with acocmpanying software to have some sort of feature like that on a Windows machine? I know this sort of thing would be better suited to an iPad, but the program that I am goign through to train me is providing a Windows laptop, not an iPad. Thoughts?
Thanks!
Thanks!
retrolental_morose 6 points 1y ago
I think what you're seeing as out of date is what the rest of us see as a keyboard. So many times I've been browsing in safari and known it'd be quicker to jump out of my current element, or to go read the paragraph of text just above the next button. I can't imagine gaining efficiency by losing access to all the buttons and combinations of them a powerful Windows-based screen reader lets me access.
akrazyho 2 points 1y ago
I T guy here or better said XIT guy here. We definitely are a lot quicker on the keyboard but some people just feel more comfortable using the mouse for their normal day-to-day gestures and commands.
retrolental_morose 1 points 1y ago
That's fine, of course. But as a teacher, my students are so much more productive when they can break away from the linear flick-by-flick approach.
I presume you meant touch-screen/pad not mouse, as a mouse user can generally interact with more of the screen at a time
I presume you meant touch-screen/pad not mouse, as a mouse user can generally interact with more of the screen at a time
ukifrit 1 points 1y ago
that's the equivalent of browsing the internet with tab only. We all started like this :D.
retrolental_morose 1 points 1y ago
then they invented the virtual cursor. Magic!
DariusA92 6 points 1y ago
Both NVDA and JAWS support touchscreen. Just buy a laptop with touchscreen capability.
TechnicalPragmatist 2 points 1y ago
Yes nvda and jaws and also windows in built narrator support touch screen and gestures. Learn those.
I have a hp pavillian 360 probably bought in 2018 or 2019. And it has a touch scrreen. Buy a computer with a touch screen interface or a surface pro or something like that. I also have a surface pro. And narrator does work fabulously on it.
I have a hp pavillian 360 probably bought in 2018 or 2019. And it has a touch scrreen. Buy a computer with a touch screen interface or a surface pro or something like that. I also have a surface pro. And narrator does work fabulously on it.
ChipsAhoiMcCoy [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Two fingers when finished so you guys see what I mean to then? I felt like I was crazy but honestly the touchscreen support on phones just makes it next level for a blind person I feel like because then you can not only rely on the reader but you can also rely on muscle memory for example if you go to a website and the login button is in the middle of the screen and there’s like 40 UI elements at the top that you have to tab through to get to the login button on a touchscreen that supports speech you could literally just drag your finger where you think the log is and tap it it just feels more in too and fast to to learn his so I might look into buying some sort of a touchpad or something I’m not sure if the laptop they sent me is touchscreen but I hope it is now knowing that
CloudyBeep 2 points 1y ago
You could use a PlaceMarker or something like that in this case.
I believe that your preference for touch screens is because you haven't discovered all the benefits of a keyboard yet.
I believe that your preference for touch screens is because you haven't discovered all the benefits of a keyboard yet.
TechnicalPragmatist 2 points 1y ago
If not get your own or get a surface. Save up for it.
Laser_Lens_4 1 points 1y ago
Here's my 2 cents. NVDA and JAWS support touchscreen gestures, but frankly a keyboard is much more robust and versatile. Want to navigate by table? Press T. Want to navigate by level 3 headings? Press 3 on the number row. Want to go around your screen but quickly come back to where you were? Use the review cursor on NVDA with a numpad. It's not outdated. It's just different and offers a different set of advantages and disadvantages. Don't dismiss it just because it came first and isn't shiny.
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