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would this be considered offensive? (self.Blind)
submitted by nattieluvr
hi! i’m an intern for a start up fashion brand and one piece that was created is a shirt that has a message on the back which is written in braille. i wanted to know how ethical this is and if it would be offensive to anyone? thank you so much in advance<3
K-R-Rose 21 points 1y ago
There’s lots of clothing out there that does something similar. I’d probably wear the shirt if I got my hands on one.
IMO, though, I think the Braille should be accessible to VI individuals who want to wear the clothing, so however you print the shirts the Braille should be feelable. It’s a real language that people use and not a trend made to look cool, so including the people who use that language is very important.
IMO, though, I think the Braille should be accessible to VI individuals who want to wear the clothing, so however you print the shirts the Braille should be feelable. It’s a real language that people use and not a trend made to look cool, so including the people who use that language is very important.
nattieluvr [OP] 6 points 1y ago
thank you so much for bringing this up! this is definitely something i will mention. i also wanted to ask if it would be useful if we included something like the color of the shirt in braille so it might be a little more useful when planning outfits?
K-R-Rose 7 points 1y ago
I know a lot of people who add Braille to the tags or on the inside of shirt collar to make their own tag, so I think that would be really cool if it was included somewhere discrete.
TechnicalPragmatist 5 points 1y ago
That would actually be kinda cool yeah. If you could include it on all of your clothing that would be cool. Kind of your style or brand.
ChildhoodOk5526 1 points 1y ago
Agree! To my knowledge, this hasn't been done before on a large scale. And I know my aunt would love this.
I think the challenge will be creating a "discreet" tactile label that's large enough for all the braille dots needed to spell out the item description. Although, just one descriptor, like item color, might be manageable.
Now if you really want to be creative, think of a way to include a tactile audio label with a "sensor" that can be read by a device (ideally any mobile phone) which plays the description back. Something along the lines of $1.
Now *that* would be cool AND a novel accessibility feature, u/nattieluvr
I think the challenge will be creating a "discreet" tactile label that's large enough for all the braille dots needed to spell out the item description. Although, just one descriptor, like item color, might be manageable.
Now if you really want to be creative, think of a way to include a tactile audio label with a "sensor" that can be read by a device (ideally any mobile phone) which plays the description back. Something along the lines of $1.
Now *that* would be cool AND a novel accessibility feature, u/nattieluvr
TechnicalPragmatist 2 points 1y ago
That is some good ideas here. I think color would be a start. My father got creative and used rinestones to spell it out for me on some clothing.
Emmenias 8 points 1y ago
Sounds like you already plan on making it tactile, so no, seems fine. Do make sure to research braille first though, to make sure that it ends up actually being readable. Keep in mind that unlight visual fonts braille is of fixed size, and anything bigger would be difficult to read.
Unlikely-Choice 1 points 1y ago
Oh really, didn't know that. Do you happen to know the size braille should be in?
Arqeria 1 points 1y ago
Basically, just don’t space the dots out too much. There’s not a hole lot to it. Perhaps see if you can find pictures of written braille online?
Unlikely-Choice 1 points 1y ago
Ah I see, thanks!
Rethunker 6 points 1y ago
Working on the same sort of thing here. :)
Getting a durable Braille for a shirt that will last strikes me as the challenge. My plain is for standard Braille size on a shirt cuff, which I expect is where our plans deviate. I’ve got leads from a local printer for companies that can handle what I’d like to do.
Keep us posted! Please post a photo with alt text description when you have design to share.
Getting a durable Braille for a shirt that will last strikes me as the challenge. My plain is for standard Braille size on a shirt cuff, which I expect is where our plans deviate. I’ve got leads from a local printer for companies that can handle what I’d like to do.
Keep us posted! Please post a photo with alt text description when you have design to share.
Plethorian 2 points 1y ago
Printed Braille might wear, for sure. Maybe tiny embroidery in the same color? Just a few threads for each "dot".
Rethunker 1 points 1y ago
I like the idea of the Braille being the same color as the shirt. Nice!
A local printer gave me the contact info for other companies that could handle a custom order like this. I’ll follow up when I find out what’s involved.
The first run needs to be good enough to get feedback. I’m sure the design and production will take an iteration or two to figure out whether the shirts are headed in the right direction.
A local printer gave me the contact info for other companies that could handle a custom order like this. I’ll follow up when I find out what’s involved.
The first run needs to be good enough to get feedback. I’m sure the design and production will take an iteration or two to figure out whether the shirts are headed in the right direction.
SQU1DZ 2 points 1y ago
I’m also curious about the durability of tactile printing or braille on a shirt, especially after washing. I have worked with a company to make braille-embossed water bottles, with limited success. You have to hand wash and be really gentle, so the dots do not wear off.
I’m gonna save this post, and I hope people will provide updates on the shirts.
I’m gonna save this post, and I hope people will provide updates on the shirts.
Rethunker 2 points 1y ago
I'm going to find out if embroidering works. Then I expect having embroidering requires some kind of backing, which then raises the issue of comfort in that spot, etc.
bradley22 3 points 1y ago
I like it.
thatawkwardcosplayer 3 points 1y ago
As long as it can actually be read in Braille (IE: tactile) then it’s fine! Which it sounds like you already plan on
Regular_Principle_66 3 points 1y ago
I think it would be better on the sleeves maybe? Not necessarily offensive though.
TechnicalPragmatist 3 points 1y ago
That actually sounds really cool actually.
Rhymershouse 3 points 1y ago
I don’t find that offensive at all, but I’d love to know what the message says.
nattieluvr [OP] 5 points 1y ago
thank you for your reply! the message is actually the definition of our logo which basically means fate :)
Rhymershouse 5 points 1y ago
Nope! Not offensive. Nonus it is raised.
EyesR4Nerds 2 points 1y ago
Check out the company Two Blind Brothers for some awesome tactile Braille shirts :)
Arqeria 1 points 1y ago
Why could this possibly be offensive? It’s a bit strange, perhaps, and not something I would buy, but there’s probably a niche for it somewhere.
KarmaUK 1 points 1y ago
The only issue is people might get felt up, with the excuse "I was only looking!"
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