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Android 13 will have built in Braille support (youtube.com)
submitted by rkingett
Laser_Lens_4 6 points 1y ago
tl;dr Talkback is getting Braille support and replacing Brailleback in Android 13.
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I'm genuinely shocked, however I am also very very happy that that steaming, buggy pile of garbage is finally getting replaced. Fingers crossed Talkback Braille support actually works.
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I'm genuinely shocked, however I am also very very happy that that steaming, buggy pile of garbage is finally getting replaced. Fingers crossed Talkback Braille support actually works.
DHamlinMusic 2 points 1y ago
If it's half as good as the braille keyboard is then all is good.
fireborn1472 1 points 1y ago
No HID support, . Is the protocol all modern braille displays use.
It’s lip service until they implement modern standards.
It’s lip service until they implement modern standards.
smarthome_fan 1 points 1y ago
This is awesome!
I think if I were sighted, I'd buy Android. Philosophically, I'm much more aligned with the philosophy of Android than the more closed, restricted iOS.
But I think even Android die-hards would admit the accessibility on Android doesn't come close to that of iOS. VoiceOver is truly a beautiful thing, and Android has a lot of catching up to do. Braille and the lack of out-of-box support for it was a deal-breaker for many on Android. It's nice to see this will finally be addressed.
I think if I were sighted, I'd buy Android. Philosophically, I'm much more aligned with the philosophy of Android than the more closed, restricted iOS.
But I think even Android die-hards would admit the accessibility on Android doesn't come close to that of iOS. VoiceOver is truly a beautiful thing, and Android has a lot of catching up to do. Braille and the lack of out-of-box support for it was a deal-breaker for many on Android. It's nice to see this will finally be addressed.
DHamlinMusic 1 points 1y ago
I use Android myself and have found that a lot of the info about how bad things are is very old/outdated, I have found very little I have issues with and most of those are personal opinions not functional problems. I am writing all of this with the talkback braille keyboard which from what people have said is better than the iOS one.
smarthome_fan 1 points 1y ago
Well, I have both an iPhone and a Google Pixel, and to me, there's absolutely no contest. My iPhone with VoiceOver is way more accessible than Talkback on Android: in terms of responsiveness, customizability, and features. From basic features like selecting, copying, cutting and pasting text, to the iPhone's ability to describe and read text from any image right inside your apps, to marking and dragging elements, to finding misspelled words, to responsiveness typing on the on-screen keyboard, iOS with VoiceOver just works so much better.
I agree Android accessibility has improved by leaps and bounds, but I still think for a blind user, if you were to use something like a stopwatch to measure efficiency, VoiceOver has a higher chance of pulling ahead.
But, like I said, I don't consider myself an iPhone fanboy. I prefer the philosophy of Android in many other ways.
I agree Android accessibility has improved by leaps and bounds, but I still think for a blind user, if you were to use something like a stopwatch to measure efficiency, VoiceOver has a higher chance of pulling ahead.
But, like I said, I don't consider myself an iPhone fanboy. I prefer the philosophy of Android in many other ways.
DHamlinMusic 1 points 1y ago
You listed a bunch of things that I can do just as easily on Talkback, so not sure when you last used it or if you're using the more recent version. Text editing is trivial, image description has been a thing for a while, also customization is almost too much now.
smarthome_fan 1 points 1y ago
Ok, so firstly I'm talking about literally touching, navigating and entering text on the on-screen keyboard. On an iPhone bought in 2019, VO is lightning fast but on a Pixel, bought in 2020, it's really slow and often misses announcing letters. This is with a stock install, not rooted, default keyboard, etc. etc.. This alone means that I never really considered switching to this phone for anything other than trying out Android/keeping up to date with it.
In 2020 Apple added a mode where any image in an app or website can be automatically described. As in, if someone sends a screenshot, you can enter an image explorer mode where you can actually navigate and explore the text in that screenshot and also all the objects in the image. Does Google have something like that shipping? It isn't mentioned in their documentation.
Can I ask, if you had to select a sentence and cut it to the clipboard on Android, what method would you use to do it?
In 2020 Apple added a mode where any image in an app or website can be automatically described. As in, if someone sends a screenshot, you can enter an image explorer mode where you can actually navigate and explore the text in that screenshot and also all the objects in the image. Does Google have something like that shipping? It isn't mentioned in their documentation.
Can I ask, if you had to select a sentence and cut it to the clipboard on Android, what method would you use to do it?
bradley22 1 points 1y ago
I’m not an android user, but this is amazing! It’s really cool to see how far talkback has come.
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