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Full History - 2022 - 05 - 31 - ID#v1vfgf
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Diagnosed with AZOOR 2 months ago, trying to prepare for the inevitable (self.Blind)
submitted by TrailMomKat
So, as the title says, I was diagnosed with AZOOR 2 months ago. It rapidly progressed and I'm almost totally blind in my left eye. Corrective lenses (my base vision is -6.00) make my eyes disagree and look at different objects at the same time. Maybe as a result of the glare, maybe something else, they're still studying me to figure it out. After all, only like 100 people have AZOOR.

They finally gave it straight to me at my last appointment, after doing even more tests when I told them I'm seeing the same glare in my top right eye: I will go blind, there's nothing they can really do about it.

I've started the ball rolling on Medicaid, I'm going to SSA on Thursday, and I'm going on ahead and getting the white cane so I can learn while I'm still partially sighted. I've mostly got my house mapped already due to being -6.00 at night all my life after I've taken out my contacts for the day, so that's a small win for me.

I can't see what's on the ground anymore so I've learned to test every step with the toe of my boot when I'm outside. My sister or my husband leads me at the store and my kids also play defense on my left if I'm in a crowd. I'm lucky as hell to have them.

My question is this: what else can I do to prepare? The specialists don't know for sure how long I'll continue to have some sight, but judging by the rate my left side has rapidly turned white, they reckon my right eye will probably do the same. I just wanna make sure I can keep being my best self without relying on my family for too much. On that note, dear God, I miss driving myself around. I also miss seeing *sewing (stupid autocorrect), embroidery, and reading books.

Oh! And what is a voice to text program that isn't gratingly annoying? The stock program on my Samsung gets on my last nerve.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Edit: holy crap, thank you so much everyone, for all the advice. I haven't read through it all yet because I hate the reader on my phone, so I'm squinting the one good eye and working through it slowly. I'll try and reply to everyone, thank y'all SO much!
What else do I need to do to prepare?
chickiebongo 5 points 1y ago
Hello fellow AZOOR person! I was diagnosed 3 years ago after spending 5 years with various other diagnoses that didn’t quite fit. I too have one eye that loss vision quickly but my good eye is failing very slowly. So while I thought I would be blind by now, I’m not, but I do have low vision for sure. It’s great to plan ahead but live life now too. It will be hard but try to relax and enjoy where you are. I am very happy with my life now but it did take time to get here.
TrailMomKat [OP] 4 points 1y ago
Holy shit, you're the second person to tell me they've got AZOOR in the last 24 hours. I remember thinking when I was maybe 15 "damn, the internet is so amazing" and I'm very much having that feeling right now. I mean, there are literally only dozens of us, and here I've spoken to 2 other people already!

I'm hoping my right eye will decline a lot slower than my left, but they said it would be pretty quick. I hope to God they're wrong. I have to ask, do your eyes also refuse to cooperate with corrective lenses? It seems like the dumbest, screwiest thing ever to me; I simply don't understand why I can't wear friggin glasses and have one good eye, but nothing works so I'm -6.00 instead. After a few days of closing my eyes to map the house totally blind, I know I should count my blessings, that some vision is WAY better than none at all, but not cooperating is such a dumb way for my eyes to behave!
chickiebongo 2 points 1y ago
Yes, I tend to get cross eyed and lose focus when trying to read. I end up closing my bad eye and that helps, but all the distortion makes me feel like no vision would be better sometimes, so I hear you!
TrailMomKat [OP] 1 points 1y ago
Maybe that's what they're doing is going cross-eyed, but I don't know. It's like the 10% I have on the left wants to look left at object A, which ironically is in my blind spot, and right wants to see B, directly ahead, and neither can agree where C through Z are located. I close my left to read as well, but I'm sure you know the whole song and dance of "shit that hurts" after maybe an hour of doing it.

Also, something screwy I've noticed: does your right eye also not see stationary objects? Then once they move, it absolutely sees the movement and tracks it? My cat has surprised my more than once with that lol, I about jumped out my skin the first time it happened! I think he's figured out I'm going blind, too. He used to follow me but now he leads me, and he's started meowing to get my attention lol. He even speaks up when I'm too close to the road.
Impossible-Crab-5772 2 points 11m ago
Rolling on this thread - I’m an azoor unicorn as well (plus a motley crew of other white dot syndromes). It’s been about 18 years since the first round of vision loss for me. Comes and goes in spurts over time and the inability to know when or how you will lose vision next can be frustrating. My longest period with stable vision was over 9 years. I ended up finding an optometrist at LensCrafters of all places who would finally listen and didn’t try to optimize the vision by each eye independently. I highly recommend focusing on how you see with both eyes open together. The random blind spots mean that independently my prescription looks wrong, but together it actually works out really well. I can’t read the top lines on the eye charts separately but with both eyes open I can. There is some technical phrase for this but the gist is that I don’t have great depth perception due to going this route. My more limited eye also is dominant and I hear you on going cross eyed sometimes. It can cause dangerous assumptions since you have photoshopped out areas that the brain fills in. Also if it helps, I feel like it takes a good 6-9 mo to restabilize /resituate myself after each major vision change. Just remember it can take time. There is also a small Fb group for us that you can ask to join - just search azoor. People compare doctors and symptoms and research papers freely from around the world. Not many of us even when you have the Fb reach.
OldManOnFire 5 points 1y ago
First, realize you're not alone. You've got family sticking with you through this. You've got r/Blind. You've got support.

Next, if you haven't started your blind bucket list yet, get on it. There will never be a better time than now.

If I may be self promoting, check out $1. I was diagnosed last July and went through the roller coaster of grief, job loss, using a white cane, and all the rest. You might find something in there that makes you feel a little less alone. It deals mostly with the emotional aspects of going blind because those were the hardest aspects for me.

Finally, here's an online hug. You're not alone. You've got this.
TrailMomKat [OP] 3 points 1y ago
I hate to admit it, but hearing I'm not alone made me cry a little bit. I've been working hard to stay busy so I don't have time to feel sorry for myself, but I really miss sewing and reading books. I was in the middle of Watership Down week before last, and was fine Wednesday with squinting while it's an inch from my face. Then Thursday I woke up and my eyes started doing that "nope, not cooperating anymore" thing and now I can no longer read letters on paper. I can still squint and read on a backlit device like my phone, but only so much before the strain makes me have to quit for the day.

My bucket list will sound sappy, but it's mostly going out in the woods and seeing all the green for as long as I can, even if I have to wear shades-- all light renders me absolutely blind from the glare-- and pulling my husband and my kids close so I can see their faces. I'm afraid I'll forget what they look like, if that makes sense. God, I haven't admitted that to anyone yet because it sounds so stupid and self pitying, you know?

I was supposed to go back to work in April when the AZOOR made itself known. I'd quit my job when the schools went remote, because I have to practically sit on my autistic son to get him to do his work. The last school year was spent homeschooling my youngest, due to shitty infection control at his particular school.

Ironically, I've worked in various parts of healthcare for twenty years, and with the disabled and in geriatrics and hospice for the last ten. I never thought that of all things, like my COPD and my type 1 diabetes, that I'd wind up blind, but I guess none of us did until it happened, right?

Thank you so much for your reply, and I'll check out your blog in the morn when my right eye is ready to cooperate enough to read.

*Hug*
OldManOnFire 3 points 1y ago
It's a lonely experience. I didn't know any blind people. I had only met three in my entire life. And suddenly I am one, without a clue how to act blind, how to be blind, how to feel blind, how to live blind.

It's okay to shed a tear. It's traumatic, and it feels very lonely. The people who love us try their best but they can't understand what we go through. They can close their eyes and imagine being blind, but the mechanics of blindness is the easy part. The hard parts are all emotional.

I hope the blog helps. The entries go from bottom to top, like an email inbox. Please start with the one named Rumster - it's at the very bottom of the list.

My DMs are always open.
TechnicalPragmatist 3 points 1y ago
Definitely learn to use a screen reader well, it is very important. For blind people especially totally blind it’s the gateway to everything, tech is, and it is impossible to use without a screen reader. Besides very old fashion bulky braille volumes which you can often only have so many it just is a better way to read and write every day, and the internet and tech is a real blessing from God.


Learn to use the cane well and also learn some independent living skills.
TrailMomKat [OP] 1 points 1y ago
I gotta say first off, I love your username lmao... you can't see the positive or the negative, so you're technically a pragmatist, right? That got a real laugh out of me, like telling people "it's a good thing I like dark humor, since that's all I'll see."

Anyways, I'm going to ask the lady at DSS about maybe getting a tablet, since she offered help with it. I didn't think I needed it, but a few people have said it'll help, plus she can probably help me find one of those out loud readers that isn't so downright annoying. Only problem is we're *incredibly* rural, so she runs services for the blind only on Tuesdays in our county-- the rest of the week she's one county over. My husband can't get Tuesday off ever, so I have to wait on Medicaid to qualify for the county's short bus to carry me out there. Hopefully that'll happen sooner rather than later.

Thank you!
TechnicalPragmatist 2 points 1y ago
I like it! Hahaha! I think you win first place.


Never thought of it that way but I will now hahahaha! I like it though I will have to steal both but the dark humor one too hahaha!

Sounds good I hope you’ll be able to get there soon. Maybe find a voice you’ll like that’s not too annoying, I think the accessibility software will be the same. Even on your phone you can do it just need to find a voice you like. Maybe you can call them?


Yeah, not a problem.
TrailMomKat [OP] 1 points 1y ago
Oh wow, the fact it was accidental makes it even sweeter! Please steal both, I find that dark humor is helping me get through this!

I'll call the lady up there on Tuesday since it's the only day she's in the office; we're so damned rural that she's only there once a week. Thank you!
TechnicalPragmatist 2 points 1y ago
Yeah, not a problem. And sounds fun. Haha! That’s good ones I appreciate the humor for sure.
chickiebongo 2 points 1y ago
I love your cat!
EffectiveYak0 2 points 1y ago
On the topic of rare diagnoses I know how frustrating that can be. I went blind very suddenly about three years ago due to a giant brain aneurysm at the age of 31. As far as I can tell, giant aneurysms are rare, and ones that cause acute vision loss even more rare. We only found one study someone in a similar circumstance. So I know how frustrating it is when the doctors just kind of shrug and say "well there's nothing we can do. Good luck!" I know how it feels to try and scour the literature to find something, anything, that might give you a glimmer of hope. It sucks. And we're here as a community to listen and help however we can.

I'd say learn to use a screen reader as soon as possible. I found that ChromeVox (the screen reader that comes with chromebooks) has a pretty okay voice. I taught myself how to use it and it was one of the most liberating experiences. A lot of folks like JAWS on Windows because it's got more powerful features and from what I can tell works better than most screen readers. I eventually switched over to macOS VoiceOver which I know gets a lot of mixed reviews here. However, I find the Alex voice on VoiceOver to be pretty great in terms of not getting on my nerves.

I find that Google assistant and Siri are a great help and can save me mental energy. You might want to see about using the automation and voice commands to help your day to day routines. For example, my wife and I share a to do list as a google keep note. I can tell my assistant to read me the list or add or remove items and it works great. With macOS and siri you can do a lot of custom actions, but that might be a bit more advanced.

I'd start using a password manager for your accounts and learn to use it with a screen reader. You should be doing this anyway, but having everything saved and in a central location that you can easily search is great when blind.

Start thinking about what kinds of workflows you use now. Don't take for granted that your favorite applications will be accessible. You might want to do research and find out now, and if they are not you should start to find alternatives.

Finally, a very comfy pair of over the ear headphones can help you increase your endurance using screen readers all day.

Good luck, OP. You can do this!
BaBaBroke 2 points 1y ago
I read you don't have a cane yet. If you haven't done it yet, take hold of the elbow of the person you are with. They are your guide. When they go left out right or stop you will feel it and know where to go with them. It's easier for me if I hold the sleeve at the elbow. When you get your cane, try different tips to see which you prefer. You can change them out depending on the model. They have a tip like a little wheel that you can use on trails.
TrailMomKat [OP] 1 points 1y ago
Thankfully I'm still partially sighted, albeit mostly only on my right side, but on days when my right eye is strained badly, my husband leads me. I swear it's like we've been doing it all our lives; he walks on my left with his right arm around my waist and just barely nudges my right hip with his hand to direct me.

He does an amazing job and I trust him 100% not to run me into anything.

With my sister or my sons, I hold their elbow like you suggested, and they're getting used to guiding me accurately. My youngest son is only 11 and he does the best job if you don't count his father.
r_1235 2 points 1y ago
Hi,

Don't worry, You've got lot of people to help out.

The Text to speach software on samsung phones, it's probably voice assistant or Google talkback.

Both have options to use other voices, look for Text to speach in your accessibility settings. If you don't like the voices it shows, below is link to playstore for some payed premium voices. You can try and only buy those which you like.

Link for voices: $1

I would also suggest that once you have the voice part worked out, go through the talkback or voice assistant settings on your phone, customize it the way you like. It makes lot of vibrations and some extra sounds, lot of blind users like to turn them off. You might wanna also try to increase speed of your TTS time to time, once you get comfirtable with the current speed.

If this sounds tough, reach out to a local blind person, or, blind related organization might help.

​

Further, reading books, sowing, embroydary, most of these things can be made accessible, but, I don't know about the sowing and embroydory part.

For Reading, You might wanna get a bookshare membership, link below. Also, to read those files, you will need a reading app or software. Easy Reader works for me on Android. On Windows systems, I use Bookworm. Let me know if you need links for these apps and programs.

Bookshare can be accessed at $1

Further, an Amazon audible membership can also help you in getting audio books. But, it's a monthly paid service.

​

For traveling, I think cab services and busses would be your best options. But that also depends on neighbourhood thing. Lot of the buss services have free tickits for blind people, considering looking in to that.

​

As far as what you should learn, I think this is going to be a subjective thing. I would consider learning things like cooking, cleaning my top prioorities. But, again, you might not need those things, if your family takes care of that.

What I would suggest is start learning about making things accessible. Just simple workarounds for your daily tasks. Because, once the sight is gone, even that daily shampoo bottle is going to be confusing to pick. We use bottles with distinctive shapes or bottles with bump dots or something like that. Things have to be organized, those remotes and chargers have to have fixed places.

I think, you are on the right track, learning cane usage, asking questions, keep it up!
TrailMomKat [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Wow thank you, this is a wealth of information!

On cooking and cleaning, I've realized that stuff like frying meat is difficult because I can't see if it's done, so my oldest son takes care of that. I handle the boiling since I can listen for it and know about when it's done without looking. Cleaning, I use a scrubby sponge for the counters and use the rough side, then feel with my free hand for any missed stuff, then wipe down, then sanitize, then dry. My son says I'm getting good at that.

Thankfully, stuff like my chargers, medicines, or anything that's in my room already has a home, since before going blind, I took my contacts out at night. So I can absolutely find everything in my room by touch. Same goes for feminine products and TP, since turning on lights at night wakes my husband. What I once regarded as a neat talent in the middle of the night (navigating stuff blindly) has turned into a necessary skill and I'm grateful I've got that little bit down.

As for the shower, my shampoo bottle is an odd shape already and so far everyone's respected where I've sat my razor and they haven't moved it. The frustrating part is the bar of soap; I drop it a lot and very nearly cracked my head open last week when I tried to find it. My foot found it and I barely caught myself in time. Guess it's time for soap on a rope, huh?
r_1235 2 points 1y ago
Yes, I had the same problem with soaps.

It gets impossible to find it once you drop it sometimes. What helps for me is having a big soap, because those ones don't slip out of the hand that often. Smaller ones, I have to be very careful.

Lol, rope on soap, you can try, but, what if that rope slips?
TrailMomKat [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Haha I figured I'd hang it around my neck or something, I dunno lol

And I reckon while I'm partially sighted I'll try and find a soap bar that's bright as hell or something. Why do they all have to blend with the color of the tub!? It's like Ivory wants to kill us all!
Paid-Not-Payed-Bot 0 points 1y ago
> for some *paid* premium voices.

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