Hi everyone. I want to learn to cook, since I lost my sight I haven't turned on the stove. Some good ideas? thanks
Amazing_Ad738614 points1y ago
Not that into cooking at the moment and only visually impaired but I feel that assistive technology for cooking seems to be underexposed (maybe because people get panic attacks seeing blind people handle hot stuff). But there are lots of little things like talking thermometers, talking scales, talking measuring cups and liquid level indicators etc. that can help and aren't that expensive. Installing and using an induction stove would probably also make it considerably more difficult to actually burn yourself. I think you can also strategically go for dishes like soups, casseroles, stews/slow cooking, wraps, pastas, pizzas, baking etc. where you don't really need to look when things are ready if you just keep to some ballpark cooking times or taste the food. I think pan frying stuff like a steak or a pancake would be the most challenging thing but not completely impossible. Lastly being very organized and having your housemates be too is probably key. I'd make a conscious effort to always lay out everything you need before starting.
Blind_Insider [OP]5 points1y ago
Hello, thank you very much for all your advice. This weekend I will organize things in my kitchen to be able to identify everything quickly and easily. For now I don't have talking thermometers, scales or measuring cups but I'll look for them. Regarding the induction stove, they had already mentioned it to me and I consider it a good option. I will start with simple things to lose fear and as I improve I will try something new.
paneulo3 points1y ago
Imho, induction stoves suck. Too hard to figure out where the edges of the burner are. Worrying about getting burned is something you only think about when you're starting out. Once you get into it, you quickly realize that you can feel the heat long before you touch something.
Amazing_Ad73861 points1y ago
It has to be said that you can get ones specifically made accessible (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O\_WXAAVrshI). But I get you. I find it easy to burn stuff with induction furnaces. But I'm only visually impaired.
Amazing_Ad73863 points1y ago
Great! One last thing, you might also want to check out NFC tags:
Can be really helpful for labeling kitchen stuff and again,they're not that expensive
Notafakeinterpreter5 points1y ago
You should check out your local commission for the blind! The ones around me have vision rehabilitation therapists that can get you the equipment you need and teach you different ways to work around the kitchen! I am one!
bluskyebaby3 points1y ago
I came here to say this. Find a VRT.
[deleted]1 points1y ago
That is a good idea.
phistomefel_smeik5 points1y ago
Use a wooden cooking spoon as a mini-cane in the kitchen! We have those thin, long wooden cooking aids to stirr sauces and stuff. You can use it to find the handle of the pan without having to touch the pan first.
Buy a talking scale. It will help you measuring stuff.
For measuring liquids: Use the finger-hook technique (hook your index into your measuring cup to get a sense of how much it is). For oil this will not work (for some reason you can't reliably feel oil). Two options for oil: Bend a measuring cup, keep the oil in a glass jar with a big opening, so you can easily spoon out the oil. Or you take a new and empty soap dispenser (where you can push the top down and liquid will be pumped out) and fill it with oil. Then you can eaily measure small amounts of oil for your pan or salat sauce.
Get one or two plastic boxes without a lid as well as small containers or bowls. Keep all the tools (for example your cutting knife) in a plastic box when you're not actively using it and leave the box at the same place. Put all the cut ingredients in different containers. This will help you be organized for your mise-en-place and also mostly prevent you from accidentally grabbing the knife.
Blind_Insider [OP]5 points1y ago
Thanks for all your advices. I am writing them down. I didn't know about the oil and it will help me a lot. As for the knives, I just bought some that have a sheath to prevent cutting my fingers when I touch them and I'll look for the box to store everything.
phistomefel_smeik4 points1y ago
No problem.
Those are all things our VI-Instuctor told us. Maybe there are professional instructors for 'life skills' near where you life that could help you adapt in the kitchen?
Btw: There is a cooking show with Christine Ha, a blind chef and winner of Master Chef, specially for VI and blind people. Its called 'Four Senses' and you should be able to watch it online - here is the link: $1
Grab a pen friend: https://cecitech.com/en/?product=penfriend-audio-labeller
It will help when trying to find spices. Also, use tongs instead of a spatula to flip things. Only things I can think of that haven't already been mentioned.
Aside from that, it's the ole practive makes perfect thing. I was the cook of the house, and I remember when I first went blind, it was a 50/50 chance whether the food was going to end up on the plate or the wall.
Cooking blind can be frustrating at first, but just keep going, and you'll get there. I love cooking and have no problem spending a good 90 mins in the kitchen cooking up a declicious dinner.
ukifrit1 points1y ago
Why not spatulas? I’m honestly curious.
mdizak1 points1y ago
I don't know to be honest. Maybe it's just personal preference. When I'm cooking something like stuffed italian chicken breasts, I find it's just easier and more comfortable to flip with tongs versus a spatula.
ukifrit1 points1y ago
I never tried anything other than spatulas for that, so I was really curious.
TripedalCyclops4 points1y ago
I am partially sighted, but I may have some helpful tips. I have found much of my cooking is now done by sound and smell. I can smell when things are cooked more than I can see they are cooked. I listen for the right sound of the pan to make sure I have a high or low enough heat on the pan. I'm at the point now where I am using kitchen knives again, and started with a large diced potato dish to get comfortable not seeing the potato and not slicing off my fingers. Mainly it's awareness and small steps which get you back into feeling comfortable in the kitchen again. Good luck!
Blind_Insider [OP]4 points1y ago
I really appreciate all your advice. Actually my only fear is burning myself with fire or boiling water. I am able to cut vegetables, meat or anything without seeing and without cutting my fingers. But I am writing down everything they tell me to feel safer.
LaraStardust3 points1y ago
Hi. Best piece of equipment you'll ever buy is a set of oven gloves that go up past your wrist, and are not joined in the middle. Partner bought them for me after I kept burning myself and getting more and more anti-cooking, and I've never looked back. Who ever invented them deserves a couple rounds at the local. Also, amusing side note, I misread the topic title and thought you wanted to cook blind people. Just as salt!
ukifrit1 points1y ago
How is the touch affected? Or are these gloves just for like picking stuff out of the fire? Cus I can’t imagine myself cooking with gloves the whole time.
ultamentkiller3 points1y ago
I really recommend getting some official training. You cam try out stuff on your own, but I was too scared of burning my house down so I got professional help. Talk to your local commission for the blind or vocational rehabilitation agency.
pressurecookedgay3 points1y ago
I'm sighted, so chuck this out if it's bad advice, but I can't help but wonder if you'd get a lot of milage out of an instant pot. Assuming the flat buttons like a microwave has could be made more accessible, it would be good. (I only use like 3 of the buttons personally)
You can also set it to sauté which just means the coil under the pot will get hot. Then you're cooking without a lid in a way you can't touch the heat source. if you don't splash around in hot things it should be perfectly safe.
It's also just really good for quickly cooking things with the pressure cooker setting. (with the lid on) It also beeps when it's done.
Downside is the sate feature only stays on for a certain amount of time, but you can just start it again. I did a hot pot with this repetition. I don't remember if it beeps when sauté times out, but if you learn it's 30 minutes you could set a timer to remind yourself.
BECERRA183 points1y ago
What type of stove do you have a gas or electric?
Blind_Insider [OP]3 points1y ago
Gas
paneulo4 points1y ago
Gas is great because you can learn to hear how high your heat is, in addition to noting the position of the nobs.
PrincessDie1232 points1y ago
If you can go to a training center (like where you learn O&M) there should be classes for that, mine called it Activities Of Daily Living courses. We were taught how to safely use knives, stovetop, and oven among other things. One thing I remember is they told us to use a wooden spoon line a tiny cane across the stovetop and around the sides of pots and pans so we know where to add ingredients or flip or stir things without going palm down on a hot surface. Oh yeah and keeping the same kitchen organization every single time was key, the first thing we chopped was a potato into French fries and the first actually cooked was an egg a fried egg with a liquid yolk. We also did pancakes at one point and learned how to wash dishes safely and never ever put sharps into the sink water until we were immediately ready to wash them so we wouldn’t grab the blade. It’s easy to get discouraged when you try cracking an egg into a bowl only to hear it splat somewhere so I recommend trying to see the humor in that if you can because things like that can happen a lot especially at first.
paneulo2 points1y ago
This is old but still good: https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/fr/fr04/issue3/f040304.html
toryguns2 points1y ago
My mom is blind and uses little sticker things that she can feel to mark certain buttons on the stove, dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, etc.
lightsrage851 points1y ago
mark your stove with tactal markers. get your local rehab agency for the blind or voc rehab program to send someone out to teach you. I have rehab here coming out to teach me. it works well for me. there are other things you can do. like cooking without looking and i think one is cooking in the dark those are some good tip resources. I am debating doing a podcast where i describe what i do honestly as i work on things in my house.
DannyMTZ9561 points1y ago
Don’t be afraid of noices. On the contrary, pay attention to the change in volume or sound effects that the skilet, pan, or pot are doing. For example, a spake can sizle loudly, but when the volume changes I know that it's time to flip it. Similar with smells. I learned the right timing for eggs by smelling the food when my mother cooked. When I get the smell I’m waiting for, I take the pan and put the eggs on my plate.
DannyMTZ9561 points1y ago
There are mitons that have individual fingers. It'll give you a better sense of what you are holding.
Shoddy_Doughnut61741 points1y ago
I'm surprised noone's mentioned the microwave! I can do the other things if I have to, I just prefer the microwave. Because of the way it works, nothing can get hotter than the temperature of boiling water, unless you use a microwave safe metal pan which I'll talk about later, or you do something stupid and put pointy metal things in it. We have a microwave with a dial and a bell that goes ding that's been working since we bought it in 1984, but amazingly you can still find dial microwaves from companies that sell accessible equipment, unless you want to spend the big bucks and get a talking microwave. A few years ago when we thought our old reliable might be going to go out we looked and found one with a dial for around $80. My Daily Living teacher in 1984 put a label around the dial that has raised braille symbols like the old classic braille watches, dots 1 2 3 marking minutes not divisible by 5, a full 6-dot cell marking every 5 minutes. You'd be amazed at what you can cook in the microwave, you can bake potatoes, fish, fries, whole squash, even burgers and hard boiled eggs, though you must make sure the water is at least 1 centimeter over the egg when you're holding it straight so that one end isn't higher than the other. The air bubble will make one end rise a bit when you let go, and it will come up out of the water, but that's ok. It settles as it heats it seems, so it never goes boom. I use a ceramic bowl that can hold 3 eggs and cook them for 10 minutes in enough water to cover them with about a teaspoon of salt mixed in. You'll want gloves, we have gloves that aren't as thick as oven gloves but specifically for taking things out of the microwave. You want some good ceramic bowls with well-fitting lids or a microwave safe plate that will cover them well for some of the bigger projects like my everything but the kitchen sink egg scramble or cooking soup, quinoa or oatmeal. We have a set of bowls that are 70 years old, and I use them all the time in the microwave. I often use a bowl bigger than I need so I have room to mix things without stuff slopping out of the bowl into the microwave or onto the counter. I'm always googling different things to microwave. They say don't put metal in the microwave, but that's to try to make it idiot proof. Actually many tv dinners and hot pockets and such have metal in the containers construction to help brown food because the metal gets hotter than just the usual boiling temperature of internally heating the water in your food. So it conducts heat directly to the outside of the food that's touching it, and classic infrared heat from the pan does the rest while the microwaves cook the food internally as they usually do. We have a round flat metal pan with a rubber coating on the bottom and little rubber feet that's specifically made for cooking things like French fries, fish filets or fish sticks and having them come out like they were baked in the oven. It has a lip around it and the metal is rounded so no sharp edges are there to cause high voltages that could arc around in your microwave and damage it. But you don't want to put just any old metal object in the microwave, if it has pointy corners or edges, even microscopic ones it could destroy your microwave. When you get used to cooking certain things in the microwave you can adapt recipes that don't call for the microwave at all. Yesterday I cooked a garlic spinach quinoa by using what I had already learned about cooking those items. I already know how to saute vegies in a microwave safe bowl, I already know how to nuke quinoa, and I googled how to fry an egg, then I combined those 3 things. Maybe it didn't come out exactly like it would had I just used the stove and followed the recipe as written, but it was good enough for my lunch and using up some fresh spinach as I was getting tired of salad. I'll finish this with what I call everything but the kitchen sink eggs. I found a microwave scrambled eggs with onions and cheese recipe on line and just kept adding stuff to it. Now that I'm going to the local farmer's market I can add broccoli, cauliflower, kohlrabi and spinach. So I start by coating a large ceramic bowl with margarine with my fingers. Then I start cutting up veggies into bite sized pieces. I always put 6 olives, a bunch of sliced jalapeños from a jar unless I've bought fresh banana peppers, canned mushrooms, and a healthy slice of onion or 1 whole green onion including the bulb. I also pour a dollop of olive juice from the can, one of mushroom water from the can, and 1 of jalapeño juice from the jar into my bowl. I don't measure the stuff. The original recipe didn't call for so much liquid, and only called for water, but as I got used to cooking this I found that more liquid keeps the eggs from hardening and drying out as everything cooks up, especially if I'm using fresh broccoli, kohlrabi and or cauliflower, which is the next thing I fix. BTW you don't need salt, the olive juice has that. Broccoli and cauliflower I just break off the florets where they naturally break, I don't even bother using a knife for those. kohlrabi if I have it, I have to cut into small cube-like entities. So all this stuff is on a plate I'm using for cutting, but you might prefer to use a cutting board or plastic cutting sheet. So now it's time for the eggs. I break 4 eggs into the bowl. The trash is open next to the counter so I can toss the shells. Breaking eggs takes practice so you don't lose any shells in the bowl. Your hands will get messy holding to errant shells. Now I whisk it with a fork, but not as vigorously as a sighted person would. Then I put a small handfull of shredded cheddar cheese and mix that up with the fork. Then I dump all the veggies into the bowl and stir them all up. Now I put the bowl in the microwave and put the lid or plate atop it. I set it for 4 minutes, my microwave is only 600 watts so y m m v. While that's going I take a bit of dish soap and rub it around my fork tines and rinse with hot water, then I take half a small tomato or a fourth of a large one and cut into bite sized pieces. When 4 minutes are up I dump the tomato into the bowl and mix it in with the fork. I set it for another 4 minutes and take some sliced ham and pull it apart into small pieces. And this is my latest addition, I take some soft corn tortillas, usually 3 or 4 small ones, and tear them into pieces over the plate. When the bowl is done I take it out, pour a bit of El Yucateco habanero sauce over my finger into the bowl, wipe the excess off on a piece of tortilla on the plate, shake some dry Italian seasoning from a small bottle in. I put the tortillas and ham in the microwave and turn it on for about 30 secs, then dump it in the bowl. Now I use my fork and spoon to mix all that together and I'm ready to eat.
ukifrit1 points1y ago
I love microwaves for their versatility. But I’d never use them as my main cooking tool.
GTbuddha1 points1y ago
If you are new to cooking an Instant pot is an easy tool to use and you can cook lots of foods in it. I went away from cooking with meat because I never could tell if it was done enough and I don't enjoy burned meat.
SOLZEEDOG1 points1y ago
Try to get measuring cups with lines that you can feel on the inside. My blind grandma likes those
PromiscuousAlien1 points1y ago
I would highly suggest an air fryer and instant pot (or something similar in that category)!
Their is so many recipes to make foods with those and a lot of it just requires adding in all the ingredients and pushing a button and having the machine do the rest! I’ve made hard boiled eggs in my instant pot and comes out just like it would on the stove top!
[deleted]1 points1y ago
Also can you cook using other stuff I love the grill and oven.
[deleted]1 points1y ago
Label it. Turn it on and try it first boil and egg or some water. Maybe some noodles something simple.
Blind_Insider [OP]2 points1y ago
that sounds easy. But how can I avoid getting burned when the water is boiling? Or how can I know when the egg is already cooked?
paneulo2 points1y ago
Listen to the water. A pot of boiling water has a very distinct sound when compared to a pot that is no where near boiling, and a pot that is close to boiling, but not quite there has a different sound as well. Or you can be all fancy, and just use a thermometer. :)
Eggs that are at different levels of doneness also have fairly unique sounds when being fried. Or you can try timeing it.
If you are talking about boiling eggs, well, everyone has to time those.
phistomefel_smeik2 points1y ago
Posting twice for visibility (hah).
Use a wooden cooking spoon as a mini-cane in the kitchen! We have those thin, long wooden cooking aids to stirr and stuff. You can use it to find the handle of the pan without having to touch the pan first.
Buy a talking scale. It will help you measuring stuff.
For measuring liquids: Use the finger-hook technique (hook your index into your measuring cup to get a sense of how much it is). For oil this will not work (for some reason you can't reliably feel oil). Two options for oil: Bend a measuring cup, keep the oil in a glass jar with a big opening, so you can easily spoon out the oil. Or you take a new and empty soap dispenser (where you can push the top down and liquid will be pumped out) and fill it with oil. Then you can eaily measure small amounts of oil for your pan or salat sauce.
Get ome or two plastic boxes without a lid as well as small containers or bowls. Keep all the tools (for example your cutting knife) in a plastic box when you're not actively using it and leave the box at the same place. Put all the cut ingredients in different containers. This will help you be organized for your mise-en-place and also mostly prevent you from accidentally grabbing the knife.
[deleted]2 points1y ago
If you don’t keep your fingers or hand in the boiling pot you should be fine. A lot of cooking is timing and listening. There’s a certain noise to boiling bubbling water. And a boiled egg. Also in the future get timing down if I cook eggg for 8 to 9 minutes on medium it should be great. Or even so long on high it should be good.
Also with water there are those whistle pots, we have one, after it is finished boiling the pot will whistle. You have to have the lid on right and properly. The lid has to be on tight.
Blind_Insider [OP]1 points1y ago
I know those pots you mention and I think I may be able to measure time and hear the water boiling. As you say, it sounds like an easy thing to do. I'll try it this weekend and thanks a lot for the tips
[deleted]1 points1y ago
Half the battle is turning it on and telling yourself you can do it. Try it. Make sure your knobs are labeled low medium and high. Some say you can listen to the hiss of the gas. Whatever you want. Put some water in a pot. And put it on the stove, make sure it’s centered and then turn on the knob.
Same with an egg but put an egg in it. Sometimes it’s more helpful to boil the water first then put the egg in there.
I would say give the egg 8 or 9 minutes at most. 8 should be good at medium. Adjust if you’re like me and like softboiled eggs.
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